Oh the joys of selling a car ! whats the best replies ?
Discussion
Currently selling the lovely little runaround we have had after buying a vectra ( http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2662026.htm ). Compared it to other cars, got tonnes of paper work to back everything up, really low miles, MoT and tax, not bad looking, mint runner and the bloody texts you get off people!
So far I have had
Him : Wats ur final price
Me : Hello there, final price on what ?
Him : der car init ?
Me : have you seen it ?
Him Nah im a hole seller, wots you selling it
Me : pop round have a look and we can do a deal
Him Lok m8 jus tel mi ur final price
Me : £650
Him : nup, gud luCK!
Another
Him : would you take £200
Me : Pounds ? definitely !
Him : why ?
Me : I will always take £200
Him : for the car
Me : you have seen it right ?
Him : No, whats wrong with it ?
Me : Nothing, you are going to pay before you driven it right ?
Him : Don't think so mate I am not stupid
Me : Of course, not sorry to have tested you wileyness, your impressive.
Him : I am not dumb haha
Right so what should the next one be? this is proving quite good fun between the serious buyers, thinking of accepting the next stupid low ball price with no reference to the actual item, have the pop round and pull out the knackered old bike and say there you go, when they say what ? apologise for the mix up as their text didn't say which item they were think of buying I naturally thought they meant the bike I was selling !
So far I have had
Him : Wats ur final price
Me : Hello there, final price on what ?
Him : der car init ?
Me : have you seen it ?
Him Nah im a hole seller, wots you selling it
Me : pop round have a look and we can do a deal
Him Lok m8 jus tel mi ur final price
Me : £650
Him : nup, gud luCK!
Another
Him : would you take £200
Me : Pounds ? definitely !
Him : why ?
Me : I will always take £200
Him : for the car
Me : you have seen it right ?
Him : No, whats wrong with it ?
Me : Nothing, you are going to pay before you driven it right ?
Him : Don't think so mate I am not stupid
Me : Of course, not sorry to have tested you wileyness, your impressive.
Him : I am not dumb haha
Right so what should the next one be? this is proving quite good fun between the serious buyers, thinking of accepting the next stupid low ball price with no reference to the actual item, have the pop round and pull out the knackered old bike and say there you go, when they say what ? apologise for the mix up as their text didn't say which item they were think of buying I naturally thought they meant the bike I was selling !
Guvernator said:
Very frustrating isn't it? I've had a similiar experience trying to sell my other half's car recently. Who are these people? Do they want to buy a car or not? Often I have barely gotten out a hello before I get asked the "What's your last price" question. Do these people think I am an idiot or desperate? If I was that desperate to get rid of it I'd have accepted the ridiculously low offer from a trader or Webuyanycar.com and avoided all this hassle in the first place. It's not like I am selling a £500 shed either, it's a luxury German coupe in very good nick so why am I being called by Pikies trying it on? Very very annoying.
I don;t mind people "trying it on" I am selling it, they want to buy to a cheaply as possible, it is more the lack of a hello, my names such and such, saw your fiat, would you be interested in a offer of £xxx. Ask nicely get a polite "no thankyou but I will keep you in mind if it doesn't sell"Even if someone came round had a look and offered £200, I would be taken back but at least they have taken the time to come round have a look at the thing first before casting judgement, I would imagine if a low offer was accepted they would try and shave more off when they got there. Sold a Citroen AX years back with 70k, Mot and Tax for £50, the bloke tried to haggle it down, I couldn;t believe it, but had a think, pulled the radio out and sold it to him for £40, sold the radio for £20.
Always open to a offer and a bit of banter, but this is just plain lazy fishing, not even good attempt at getting a bargain, wonder if it ever works with anyone ?
Risotto said:
Completely baffles me why some sellers are so quick to take offence at the variety of tactics employed by buyers.
Speaking as a seller, these seemingly derisory offers aren't always the waste of time they might seem at first. I've had ridiculous offers via email, but if you simply treat them as an opening gambit, more often than not you can get them to up their offer to one you consider sensible. It's a game - they don't expect you to roll over and accept their first offer. Nor is it a personal affront or an insult to your intelligence, it's just the beginning of a process that can often end in a sale. Unless of course you get all huffy and tell them to go away.
From a buying perspective, I personally don't tend to negotiate without having seen the car but if the seller lives a long way from me, I have occasionally rung them to say I'm interested in their car but my budget is, say, 15% less than their asking price. Going to see the car would be a waste of their time and mine if they're unwilling to let it go for my maximum price, so it's easier to ask up front before embarking on a long journey.
That is fair enough, i think what most people are talking about here and I started the thread about is the "no time to write text" it is rude and doesn't endear a seller to you. Selling ( and buying ) is a art which is about relationships, i will refuse work from people I don;t like or who give the impression they will be more effort than the margin suggests.Speaking as a seller, these seemingly derisory offers aren't always the waste of time they might seem at first. I've had ridiculous offers via email, but if you simply treat them as an opening gambit, more often than not you can get them to up their offer to one you consider sensible. It's a game - they don't expect you to roll over and accept their first offer. Nor is it a personal affront or an insult to your intelligence, it's just the beginning of a process that can often end in a sale. Unless of course you get all huffy and tell them to go away.
From a buying perspective, I personally don't tend to negotiate without having seen the car but if the seller lives a long way from me, I have occasionally rung them to say I'm interested in their car but my budget is, say, 15% less than their asking price. Going to see the car would be a waste of their time and mine if they're unwilling to let it go for my maximum price, so it's easier to ask up front before embarking on a long journey.
If someone rang me up and offered £500, they would be round in the next half hour, no need for a test drive, cash and I will be out of your hair I would take it, someone offered me £500, said he would be round on saturday, there dads a mechanic, would I take PX, does it inc a tank of petrol etc etc I am going to say no, come and have a look first, it isn;t always the price but the dance getting to the price that can dictate the price a buyer/seller gets.
Gets better, Jim from pistonheads emailed me last night ( read bottom up )
Email said:
fking hell your not very good are you buddy, you start off saying the "item" instead of "car" just plain lazy, you then use a very widely known scam that even my nan knows about, then you offer to pay nearly double the price I was asking, then when I double check your going to pay three times the price you keep going for it.
Little tip for you READ THE ADVERTS YOU MUG, and try and remember who you're emailing, I understand your trying to rip multiple people off at the same time between shifts at tesco but spend some time doing it, you embarrass yourself.
You have to be the worst scammer I have had so far, funny but baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!
All emails forwarded to Met police fraud department, I hope you haven;t been using your home computer or even worst your mobile to send these.
Bad boys, bad boys
Whata gonna dooooOOO
Whata gonna when they come for yoooooooOOOO...........................
From: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 16:52:08
Subject: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Go ahead and forward to me the requested details
To: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 7:44:52 AM
Subject: Re: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Great so your going to send a cheque for £2100, I cash it then you send your shipper round ? When do you think they will be round, I am away this weekend but can try and cancel if you are serious.
From: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 16:32:57
Subject: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
N.p..Go Ahead and forward to me the requested details..
To: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 7:30:40 AM
Subject: Re: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Sweet jesus.
Would you be prepared to pay more due to the risk to me, say a extra £400 ? it woould make me feel happier about the situation jimmy
From: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 16:15:43
Subject: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Hi,
Thanks for your quick response.i am satisfied with the condition of the item.i will be buying but i will be paying with a cheque and as for the shipment,my shipper will be coming for the picking up of the item upon confirmation of payment in your account.Email me more pics of the item.pls forward me your contact details so that i can instruct my client to issue out the cheque as soon as possible.
The Full Name on the cheque..
Your Contact address
Your Mobile number to reach you.
Regard,
To: jim <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 9:46:39 AM
Subject: Re: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Hello Jim the car is available, do you have any questions or would you like to see it ?
regards
Ben
From: jim <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 29 March, 2011 16:57:40
Subject: RE: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2662026.htm
Hi,
I am interested in buying this item from you..i would like to know if its still available for sale.
My Email Address: jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com
Little tip for you READ THE ADVERTS YOU MUG, and try and remember who you're emailing, I understand your trying to rip multiple people off at the same time between shifts at tesco but spend some time doing it, you embarrass yourself.
You have to be the worst scammer I have had so far, funny but baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!
All emails forwarded to Met police fraud department, I hope you haven;t been using your home computer or even worst your mobile to send these.
Bad boys, bad boys
Whata gonna dooooOOO
Whata gonna when they come for yoooooooOOOO...........................
From: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 16:52:08
Subject: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Go ahead and forward to me the requested details
To: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 7:44:52 AM
Subject: Re: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Great so your going to send a cheque for £2100, I cash it then you send your shipper round ? When do you think they will be round, I am away this weekend but can try and cancel if you are serious.
From: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 16:32:57
Subject: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
N.p..Go Ahead and forward to me the requested details..
To: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 7:30:40 AM
Subject: Re: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Sweet jesus.
Would you be prepared to pay more due to the risk to me, say a extra £400 ? it woould make me feel happier about the situation jimmy
From: Jim Macdonald <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 16:15:43
Subject: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Hi,
Thanks for your quick response.i am satisfied with the condition of the item.i will be buying but i will be paying with a cheque and as for the shipment,my shipper will be coming for the picking up of the item upon confirmation of payment in your account.Email me more pics of the item.pls forward me your contact details so that i can instruct my client to issue out the cheque as soon as possible.
The Full Name on the cheque..
Your Contact address
Your Mobile number to reach you.
Regard,
To: jim <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 9:46:39 AM
Subject: Re: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
Hello Jim the car is available, do you have any questions or would you like to see it ?
regards
Ben
From: jim <jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 29 March, 2011 16:57:40
Subject: RE: 'Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tax MoT, all paperwork, old MoTs S H, 57k, Uxbridge' at PistonHeads.com
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2662026.htm
Hi,
I am interested in buying this item from you..i would like to know if its still available for sale.
My Email Address: jimmacdonald32@yahoo.com
Thought I would update, after a tonne more silly texts, I sold the car last night to a lovely man and wife for £25 less than asking, they took it for a quick spin down the road to check it was running fine, checked the paperwork and deal was done in 5 minutes. Happy days.
This morning
"ur kar 4 sall, how mch u want"
Followed by me saying thanks for the interest but it sold last night. Reply
"cool blud, well if dey fuc up I wil giv u 200 CASH NOTES."
This morning
"ur kar 4 sall, how mch u want"
Followed by me saying thanks for the interest but it sold last night. Reply
"cool blud, well if dey fuc up I wil giv u 200 CASH NOTES."
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