997-1 Turbo Modifications
Discussion
Dear Ph,
Just acquired a 997 Turbo Tip S thingo and i would like to do a few things to it. It has been serviced by the good people at Paragon through its life and they do performance upgrade packages as i know do DMS - and i have inquired to both about their tuning packages. So i am kind of stuck because there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer as to what ultimately is better, and i am sure it is probably a mix of both/different options. For instance,
I would like to lower the car (2" or a little less) but i would also still like to be able to use the sport function in the car to 'adjust the settings'. Would a simple spring change from H&R (or any other) be fine for the job rather than opting for a complete overhaul at many £££'s? The car will be used on tracks, but more of weekend toy than anything else.
Tuning. It seems that many are capable of tuning and with simple remaps and exhaust get to 550+ BHP areas...but for any more will require more time/money/parts - the price varies a lot based on what seems like which exhaust to go for. I am sure there are many out there, as the normal note is a little placid. What is the best all round package i guess is my question when it comes to tuning and what have people feel is best for their own cars?
Other aesthetic changes I am sure will follow, wheels etc... but for the moment just looking for any hints in the right direction re: handling, tuning, sound
Thank you, and for your time, a picture
And old and new
Just acquired a 997 Turbo Tip S thingo and i would like to do a few things to it. It has been serviced by the good people at Paragon through its life and they do performance upgrade packages as i know do DMS - and i have inquired to both about their tuning packages. So i am kind of stuck because there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer as to what ultimately is better, and i am sure it is probably a mix of both/different options. For instance,
I would like to lower the car (2" or a little less) but i would also still like to be able to use the sport function in the car to 'adjust the settings'. Would a simple spring change from H&R (or any other) be fine for the job rather than opting for a complete overhaul at many £££'s? The car will be used on tracks, but more of weekend toy than anything else.
Tuning. It seems that many are capable of tuning and with simple remaps and exhaust get to 550+ BHP areas...but for any more will require more time/money/parts - the price varies a lot based on what seems like which exhaust to go for. I am sure there are many out there, as the normal note is a little placid. What is the best all round package i guess is my question when it comes to tuning and what have people feel is best for their own cars?
Other aesthetic changes I am sure will follow, wheels etc... but for the moment just looking for any hints in the right direction re: handling, tuning, sound
Thank you, and for your time, a picture
And old and new
hondansx said:
Congratulations! I didn't think they did a 997.1 Turbo S though?!
Oh dear... you mentioned DMS... that's guaranteed to make this thread a long one! For what it's worth, I would opt to go for a recognised Porsche specialist rather than a company that does everything, for any car.
Bilstein offer the PSS9 kit which retains PASM. Centre of Gravity come highly recommended for both hardware and setup.
The tip box is the S part - probably didn't need to mention it though.Oh dear... you mentioned DMS... that's guaranteed to make this thread a long one! For what it's worth, I would opt to go for a recognised Porsche specialist rather than a company that does everything, for any car.
Bilstein offer the PSS9 kit which retains PASM. Centre of Gravity come highly recommended for both hardware and setup.
I thought that DMS would invariably cause a back n forth situation, though would rather it doesn't go that way. Thanks for the advice, would Paragon be considered a favourable specialist or Parr for that matter? Not wanting to name/shame/piss on or whatever anyone, just looking for previous experiences good or bad. Been in analog for so long i haven't caught up with the digital world
Little update for those interested,
After contacting many different companies and doing some research as well as asking around I ended up going with PARR. I ended up going for the (i guess) stage 1 package that they offer. First the suspension was dropped on the H&R springs, the 20mm really makes a difference and not harsh at all. With that i went with a fast road set up and balancing etc...Then the loud stuff, opted for the Cargraphic ETS system which sounds lovely, re-map and filter package. They don't have a rolling road for 4wd but the gains are quite nice. Traction control has a hard time with the hammer down.
I have to say that the whole operation although not cheap has transformed the car into a bit of a brute, which is what i think it should have been all along. The sound is just right, and really opens up after 3k, but the drone is not far from the original while pootling along. Even the fact that i was rear-ended in traffic hasn't wiped the smile off my face. New bumper, light and some panel work to follow to fix damage, but until it goes in I will enjoy.
Thanks to all the advice on here, I think I have made the right choice, at the very least found a very polite and friendly outfit in Parr. Their garage is not bad either...the one on the left was involved in Le Mans this year and won its division (Le Mans had a Porsche Cup group i am lead to believe)
After contacting many different companies and doing some research as well as asking around I ended up going with PARR. I ended up going for the (i guess) stage 1 package that they offer. First the suspension was dropped on the H&R springs, the 20mm really makes a difference and not harsh at all. With that i went with a fast road set up and balancing etc...Then the loud stuff, opted for the Cargraphic ETS system which sounds lovely, re-map and filter package. They don't have a rolling road for 4wd but the gains are quite nice. Traction control has a hard time with the hammer down.
I have to say that the whole operation although not cheap has transformed the car into a bit of a brute, which is what i think it should have been all along. The sound is just right, and really opens up after 3k, but the drone is not far from the original while pootling along. Even the fact that i was rear-ended in traffic hasn't wiped the smile off my face. New bumper, light and some panel work to follow to fix damage, but until it goes in I will enjoy.
Thanks to all the advice on here, I think I have made the right choice, at the very least found a very polite and friendly outfit in Parr. Their garage is not bad either...the one on the left was involved in Le Mans this year and won its division (Le Mans had a Porsche Cup group i am lead to believe)
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