997 as a daily commuter - (100 miles per day)
Discussion
Hi,
wondering if you could help, just got back to UK from an International Assignment over in the US.
Before we went over there had a 07 RS4 Avant, and was commuting around 50 miles total journey a day.
My new role will see me doing 100 miles round trip a day. (all motorway)
I previously owned a 2002 996 C4S (absolutely loved this car!!) before kids forced me into the Audi :-) am currently in a 2010 Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE
We just ordered a new family wagon to replace the land rover
So, here is my dilemma and id love your thoughts and therapy :-)
I have about 35-38K budget left to spend on my toy/daily commute
would like to think this after looking in classifieds will get me into a decent 997 (S).
im toying with a manual or PDK -
the 996 manual was awesome to drive, but now with the PDK technology, can i get the same passion, excitment and engagement with the car, and so on, so have booked some test drives at the local stealership to get that one sorted for myself and thats more my own therapy session i need to get through.
Does anybody have any 'real' stats on daily usage of a 997 s (PDK or Manual), i totally get its all about how its driven, im just looking for just good honest daily type driving (M4 onto A340 not the type of driving you'd do trying to beat a GTR lap time around the ring :-)
Average MPG
Tank Range
Average miles you see from a set of boots
Average miles from a set of pads
Average miles from a clutch
as always, many thanks for anytime you spend replying to a fellow pistonheads dilema...
wondering if you could help, just got back to UK from an International Assignment over in the US.
Before we went over there had a 07 RS4 Avant, and was commuting around 50 miles total journey a day.
My new role will see me doing 100 miles round trip a day. (all motorway)
I previously owned a 2002 996 C4S (absolutely loved this car!!) before kids forced me into the Audi :-) am currently in a 2010 Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE
We just ordered a new family wagon to replace the land rover
So, here is my dilemma and id love your thoughts and therapy :-)
I have about 35-38K budget left to spend on my toy/daily commute
would like to think this after looking in classifieds will get me into a decent 997 (S).
im toying with a manual or PDK -
the 996 manual was awesome to drive, but now with the PDK technology, can i get the same passion, excitment and engagement with the car, and so on, so have booked some test drives at the local stealership to get that one sorted for myself and thats more my own therapy session i need to get through.
Does anybody have any 'real' stats on daily usage of a 997 s (PDK or Manual), i totally get its all about how its driven, im just looking for just good honest daily type driving (M4 onto A340 not the type of driving you'd do trying to beat a GTR lap time around the ring :-)
Average MPG
Tank Range
Average miles you see from a set of boots
Average miles from a set of pads
Average miles from a clutch
as always, many thanks for anytime you spend replying to a fellow pistonheads dilema...
Thanks to all,
my car history (when it got interesting) looks like,
Audi S3
Audi S4 (v8)
BMW M5 (V8)
1st kid, job moves to London
BMW 535D 2007
2nd kid
BMW 535D 2009
wife gets a company car....
Carrera 4S
3rd kid
Audi Rs4
Land rover discivery 2010
ive done a few of the big engines, petrol and diesels for the daily commute but not one of them made me feel like i did after a trip home in the 996.
it might be me and with all due respect to these fantastic cars i have the privilege of owning over the years, they sometimes felt like a 5-series with a big engine, or an audi estate with a big engine..
i couldnt get the same passion i felt with the characteristics of the 996 C4s after a blat
my car history (when it got interesting) looks like,
Audi S3
Audi S4 (v8)
BMW M5 (V8)
1st kid, job moves to London
BMW 535D 2007
2nd kid
BMW 535D 2009
wife gets a company car....
Carrera 4S
3rd kid
Audi Rs4
Land rover discivery 2010
ive done a few of the big engines, petrol and diesels for the daily commute but not one of them made me feel like i did after a trip home in the 996.
it might be me and with all due respect to these fantastic cars i have the privilege of owning over the years, they sometimes felt like a 5-series with a big engine, or an audi estate with a big engine..
i couldnt get the same passion i felt with the characteristics of the 996 C4s after a blat
g7jhp said:
You can do a 100 mile commute no problem.
I used to do a London to Huntingdon and back in my Audi S3 and then a 3.2 Carrera.
On a different Herts to Slough commute I did have a 2007 BMW 535d Touring but although it was very comfortable it was dull. The 996 turbo which replaced it was slight overkill but certainly brightened up the drive on the way home!
Nice! - my commute is going to be from Reading to Hursley (just past Winchester), guess if i get bored of the A34/M4 i can also blat through the countryside and take the long way home, you have no idea how much i miss, driving for drivings sake. :-)I used to do a London to Huntingdon and back in my Audi S3 and then a 3.2 Carrera.
On a different Herts to Slough commute I did have a 2007 BMW 535d Touring but although it was very comfortable it was dull. The 996 turbo which replaced it was slight overkill but certainly brightened up the drive on the way home!
Many Thanks, really appreciate all the help and advice here guys,
unfortunately i cant really afford to have two cars, (sensible one and a toy) as id have two lots of running costs and this would certainly not fly with the boss :-)
I think im going to go for it and make my PDK/Manual choice after i go out in both this weekend, will certainly let you all know,
as mentioned earlier, ive tried 'arguably' the best/fastest big diesels, and also big estate petrol cars to cope with the daily commute, but even the RS4 did not give me anything close to the old 996 C4s we had in terms of just enjoying driving again.
all the best with your toys of choice, and hope you all continue to enjoy what made you bite the financial built in the first place.
unfortunately i cant really afford to have two cars, (sensible one and a toy) as id have two lots of running costs and this would certainly not fly with the boss :-)
I think im going to go for it and make my PDK/Manual choice after i go out in both this weekend, will certainly let you all know,
as mentioned earlier, ive tried 'arguably' the best/fastest big diesels, and also big estate petrol cars to cope with the daily commute, but even the RS4 did not give me anything close to the old 996 C4s we had in terms of just enjoying driving again.
all the best with your toys of choice, and hope you all continue to enjoy what made you bite the financial built in the first place.
Hi, thanks to all for your help,
we tested both the C2s and the C4s, and we will look to get into a c4s PDK - am going to hold out for a Targa if i can.
@Tydeides: As for why we are selling the Disco 4 HSE, its a great car no doubt about it, its done nearly 100K now, reading above id say pretty similar running costs to a 911, (if the land rover goes wrong it is very expensive to repair so extended warranty an absolute must & make sure it covers the air suspension and turbos.)
we get 24 avg MPG, the missus loves the new Disco Sport HSE so jumping into one of them
cheers,
we tested both the C2s and the C4s, and we will look to get into a c4s PDK - am going to hold out for a Targa if i can.
@Tydeides: As for why we are selling the Disco 4 HSE, its a great car no doubt about it, its done nearly 100K now, reading above id say pretty similar running costs to a 911, (if the land rover goes wrong it is very expensive to repair so extended warranty an absolute must & make sure it covers the air suspension and turbos.)
we get 24 avg MPG, the missus loves the new Disco Sport HSE so jumping into one of them
cheers,
Hi guys,
i thought id send a reply to this original thread i posted back in the year, after much deliberation on gen.1/gen.2 - c2s, c4s, manual PDK, my head was spinning!
I then did a Porsche day at Silverstone and decided PDK was for me, i loved the Manual, but worried about the wife who would also use car.
We ended up with a 2008 gen2 C2S PDK purchased a few months back, it has the following spec
Basalt Black
Sports Chrono
Vented Seats
Heated Seats
Bose
Memory seats
Extended PCM 3 module with navigation
So whats it been like to use everyday, absolutely AMAZING,its super easy to drive in traffic and when theres a bit of open road makes for an enjoyable few seconds :-)
im seeing an average of 26MPG
I also did what many have done before, and have owned big powerful diesels that on paper can out tourque a massy fergasun tractor to try and get a balance between speed and economy.
yes the DMS remapped 535D was fast but i think it lacked one single thing.
Driver Engagement... and that emotion which can not come close to a strong balanced car weather you drive it fast or slow.
Other things id like to share during that 'new car paranoia' phase which is over now :-)
im no mechanic and cant confirm if any noises you may hear are good, bad or ugly, but this is my own real-world everyday driving experiance below
Heard a knocking at low revs but when you lifted accelerator they disappeared - after the chap listened for no more than 3 seconds, turned out to be the DFI pump and absolutely nothing to worry about
Heard a very very small whine when the AC was on and traveling at low speeds 8mph, spoke to local dealer again they said Nothing to worry about, everything was working just fine.
Im using around 1 litre of oil every 800-1000 miles, again this was sh**ting the life out of me, (not even our old RS4 used that much) until i read the manual and learn't it was absolutely normal
now after a few months, im learning that these cars are for drivers, they were built to be driven, that does not mean bouncing it off the red line everytime you drive it, but just enjoying it slow or fast.
so wanted to thank all of you for your advice during this post and i am one happy Porsche owner and more importantly everyday porsche driver.
i thought id send a reply to this original thread i posted back in the year, after much deliberation on gen.1/gen.2 - c2s, c4s, manual PDK, my head was spinning!
I then did a Porsche day at Silverstone and decided PDK was for me, i loved the Manual, but worried about the wife who would also use car.
We ended up with a 2008 gen2 C2S PDK purchased a few months back, it has the following spec
Basalt Black
Sports Chrono
Vented Seats
Heated Seats
Bose
Memory seats
Extended PCM 3 module with navigation
So whats it been like to use everyday, absolutely AMAZING,its super easy to drive in traffic and when theres a bit of open road makes for an enjoyable few seconds :-)
im seeing an average of 26MPG
I also did what many have done before, and have owned big powerful diesels that on paper can out tourque a massy fergasun tractor to try and get a balance between speed and economy.
yes the DMS remapped 535D was fast but i think it lacked one single thing.
Driver Engagement... and that emotion which can not come close to a strong balanced car weather you drive it fast or slow.
Other things id like to share during that 'new car paranoia' phase which is over now :-)
im no mechanic and cant confirm if any noises you may hear are good, bad or ugly, but this is my own real-world everyday driving experiance below
Heard a knocking at low revs but when you lifted accelerator they disappeared - after the chap listened for no more than 3 seconds, turned out to be the DFI pump and absolutely nothing to worry about
Heard a very very small whine when the AC was on and traveling at low speeds 8mph, spoke to local dealer again they said Nothing to worry about, everything was working just fine.
Im using around 1 litre of oil every 800-1000 miles, again this was sh**ting the life out of me, (not even our old RS4 used that much) until i read the manual and learn't it was absolutely normal
now after a few months, im learning that these cars are for drivers, they were built to be driven, that does not mean bouncing it off the red line everytime you drive it, but just enjoying it slow or fast.
so wanted to thank all of you for your advice during this post and i am one happy Porsche owner and more importantly everyday porsche driver.
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