Anyone gone from a 6GT3 to a 6C2?
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I am seriously considering letting my GT3 go, I have owned it for 18 months now and due to a change in circumstances shortly after purchasing it, it spends most of its time sitting in the garage and I have only managed 1300 miles in it. The only good thing about that is that prices have rocketed, pure luck and was not why it was purchased and to be honest it is criminal it not being used.
Anyway, now thinking of letting it go and just buying a 6C2 or similar and just use it more as a daily rather than a high days and holidays car which is not happening and in years to come when things hopefully settle down again possibly get back in to another GT (if they are not totally out of reach by then) I know there is a risk of that. The biggest problem I have is I absolutely love the GT3, when I first drove it it just reminded me of being back in a go-cart, that is apart from loving the look of it in viper green.
So how much different is the drive/feel of a C2 compared to a GT3 on the road?
Anyway, now thinking of letting it go and just buying a 6C2 or similar and just use it more as a daily rather than a high days and holidays car which is not happening and in years to come when things hopefully settle down again possibly get back in to another GT (if they are not totally out of reach by then) I know there is a risk of that. The biggest problem I have is I absolutely love the GT3, when I first drove it it just reminded me of being back in a go-cart, that is apart from loving the look of it in viper green.
So how much different is the drive/feel of a C2 compared to a GT3 on the road?
keep it lit said:
Not made this move, and sad to hear you may have to let the 3 go 
But I'd really try a 996T as a replacement instead of a C2 mate !!!
Don't have to let it go, just thinking it might be a good move and just buy a cheaper C2 or something similar that I would be more inclined to use a lot more of the time rather than the GT3 that is just sitting in the garage. It could easily be 2 years before things change and using it frequently becomes a reality. But I'd really try a 996T as a replacement instead of a C2 mate !!!
Trying to get hold of a manual Turbo would be a challenge in itself, and given what they are changing hands for at the moment would I not be better off just keeping the 3 if that was what I decided.
fioran0 said:
I have plenty of time with both. The 996 C2 is a fantastic little car which with some light mods can be quite wonderful to drive.
It is, and will never be a GT3 though. As already mentioned, the GT3 - and particularly the 996 - is a combo of platform and engine. While the platform side can be easily addressed on the C2 the engine side cannot.
As a side bar, it is the character and delivery of the engine itself rather than its power that makes it stand out. I have driven a C2 with a race built engine producing more power than a GT3 and the cars still inhabited different spheres.
(Note this is why I am lukewarm about the GT4. The 3.8 engine in it does not have the requirements to bridge that gap from cooking type cars over to the GT3 type cars. It merely offers more power than the currently available engines.)
The 996 C2 is highly underrated from a drivers perspective and while subjective, I think its oft maligned looks are coming to it on todays roads. It is entirely possible to have a lot of fun with one, especially with a few changes to make it more driver focussed. Coming from a GT3 much of it mechanically will make sense to you. The only caveat is that it will never offer exactly what the GT3 does. You need to work out whether that will be enough given the GT3 currently offers so little opportunity for use.
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, I know it won't be the same but if it actually gets used it would be more rewarding.It is, and will never be a GT3 though. As already mentioned, the GT3 - and particularly the 996 - is a combo of platform and engine. While the platform side can be easily addressed on the C2 the engine side cannot.
As a side bar, it is the character and delivery of the engine itself rather than its power that makes it stand out. I have driven a C2 with a race built engine producing more power than a GT3 and the cars still inhabited different spheres.
(Note this is why I am lukewarm about the GT4. The 3.8 engine in it does not have the requirements to bridge that gap from cooking type cars over to the GT3 type cars. It merely offers more power than the currently available engines.)
The 996 C2 is highly underrated from a drivers perspective and while subjective, I think its oft maligned looks are coming to it on todays roads. It is entirely possible to have a lot of fun with one, especially with a few changes to make it more driver focussed. Coming from a GT3 much of it mechanically will make sense to you. The only caveat is that it will never offer exactly what the GT3 does. You need to work out whether that will be enough given the GT3 currently offers so little opportunity for use.
pete said:
I went from a gorgeous 7.1 GT3 that I simply wasn't using, to a 996 Turbo S that I use now on at least a weekly basis. The GT3 wasn't very usable with a young family, unless I was willing to hack about with the interior. I was on the verge of doing that, but the opportunity came up to buy a house, and the £60k from selling the GT3 was more useful to turn into another bedroom.
5 months later, I ended up spending half the proceeds from the GT3 on the 996, and it's far from half the car. Yes, it isn't anything like as sharp as the GT3, but after 6 months of driving a diesel BMW the 996 felt more than responsive enough. The fact that it has back seats, so occasionally gets used for the whole family, plus the very different power delivery, make it enjoyable in a different way. I now use it for everything from weekend blasts, and the odd trip away with the family, to weekly trips for work; the GT3 was a pure toy by comparison.
My only regret is that my 14k mile 7.1 GT3 comfort would now be worth about £15-20k more than I sold it for. Of course, my Turbo S also seems to be worth £10-15k more than I paid for it 3 years ago, so I can't complain too much :-) Just don't do it hoping to get back into a GT3 in the future, as who knows which way prices will go. Do it if you really want a change now, have a good reason not to have the cash tied up in your GT3, or feel you'll be happy to take your money and run!
Pete
If I needed the money my decision would be so much simpler, it is just about if I would use something like the C2 a lot more.5 months later, I ended up spending half the proceeds from the GT3 on the 996, and it's far from half the car. Yes, it isn't anything like as sharp as the GT3, but after 6 months of driving a diesel BMW the 996 felt more than responsive enough. The fact that it has back seats, so occasionally gets used for the whole family, plus the very different power delivery, make it enjoyable in a different way. I now use it for everything from weekend blasts, and the odd trip away with the family, to weekly trips for work; the GT3 was a pure toy by comparison.
My only regret is that my 14k mile 7.1 GT3 comfort would now be worth about £15-20k more than I sold it for. Of course, my Turbo S also seems to be worth £10-15k more than I paid for it 3 years ago, so I can't complain too much :-) Just don't do it hoping to get back into a GT3 in the future, as who knows which way prices will go. Do it if you really want a change now, have a good reason not to have the cash tied up in your GT3, or feel you'll be happy to take your money and run!
Pete
Crimp said:
I had a GT3 996.2 and loved it.
Epic sound and plenty quick enough.
Got shut to invest in property as I was going through a marriage break up.
Do I regret selling it?
Sometimes yes (due to current values but I made a small profit) and sometimes no.
Never used it due to lack of rear seats TBH
Marriage fortunately is back on track so the property I bought is rented out and I have now got a lovely breathed on DMS 996 Turbo what I use frequently, collect kids from school etc, and its got 550BHP to boot.
Its a tough call, but a 996 turbo is where I'd go and im on my 3rd one.
Glad things have worked out for the better for you Epic sound and plenty quick enough.
Got shut to invest in property as I was going through a marriage break up.
Do I regret selling it?
Sometimes yes (due to current values but I made a small profit) and sometimes no.
Never used it due to lack of rear seats TBH
Marriage fortunately is back on track so the property I bought is rented out and I have now got a lovely breathed on DMS 996 Turbo what I use frequently, collect kids from school etc, and its got 550BHP to boot.
Its a tough call, but a 996 turbo is where I'd go and im on my 3rd one.
Thing is if I invest in a nice turbo it will end up sitting in the garage like the GT3 does rather than having a car I don't have to worry too much about where I go, park it etc.
Final thing, trying to find a descent turbo. Edit. Should have bought the viper green one that I so nearly did prior to the GT3.
Edited by doneitnow on Thursday 28th May 20:36
r4_rick said:
er i thought he was trying to help ?
I took it he was trying to be funny, if not my sincere apologies to lemmingjames. If so I would have to take the cage out, get another set of seats, get rear seats etc etc, the issue is not not having rear seats though.It was good to read your earlier reply though having gone the other way from a C2 to a GT3, thanks. To me the GT3 is just the complete package so I know going backwards would be a compromise, I guess the big question is how much am I prepared to compromise to change to something I will use regularly rather than something that is just sitting looking pretty and not getting used! I thought the average mileage was low when I purchased it, I have made that look high .
Crimp said:
Funnily enough I nearly bought that car, was it the one with the GT2 kit on it?
It was for sale a couple of yrs ago at a garage near Harrogate, originally sold via Specialist cars of Malton.
Buy a leggy 996t for late 20's-30k mark, Mezger engine is bullet proof and as long as its a car with good history be a good investment long-term and very usable
Yes that was the one, I just love viper green. I saw it advertised and exchanged a few emails with the dealer, unfortunately due to a heavy workload at the time I did not get down to see it quick enough and it sold, had it been a well regarded dealer I would have placed a deposit over the phone, he who hesitates. Needless to say, as soon as I saw the GT3 the deal was done.It was for sale a couple of yrs ago at a garage near Harrogate, originally sold via Specialist cars of Malton.
Buy a leggy 996t for late 20's-30k mark, Mezger engine is bullet proof and as long as its a car with good history be a good investment long-term and very usable
Edited by doneitnow on Friday 29th May 06:34
Edited by doneitnow on Friday 29th May 06:35
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