GT2RS build

[Isysman]

Hi Folks,

It is with some trepidation I post my videos on Pistonheads! Anyway I thought you might like to take a look.

I understand there is still no way to embed a video into this forum?

I have two videos, one is charting the mods made over the last three years up until last week. The second is the most recent updates made to the car.

1st Video: Last three years
https://youtu.be/Rvjty2HVbk4

2nd Video: Most recent updates
https://youtu.be/JgtV4x_St1k

And yes it cost a fortune and yes I'm nuts so don't ask! Almost all parts are OEM with the exception of some carbon parts (side air intakes, third brake light plate) which were made by DB-Carbon in Germany. All the other parts are OEM including the decklid.

Enjoy.

[Isysman]

Thanks folks. Yes it was in Porsche Post in the early stages, and then the new editor came in and wasn't interested in any further contributions.

It's staying 4WD, this is one of the reasons I bought a Turbo over a GT2 3 years ago, as at the time there was only about £20k difference in price.

I suppose it would be reversible but why would to want to do that? This car is a keeper, I'll never sell so long as I can afford to keep it so I'm not worried about reselling it. Although I'm sure if I did there would be someone out there who would buy it as it is.

Car is going in for front end at the end of the month. I have all the parts brand new: the carbon bonnet, carbon fenders/wings, GT2 Bumper, carbon grills, centre radiator GT2 conversion parts and all the other parts waiting to go on.

Edited by Isysman on Thursday 17th March 15:32

[Isysman]

Adam B said:

do you recall how much the PCM3 conversion cost, with the USB audio connection? Did you add gen 2 bluetooth too?

The PCM 3 upgrade was expensive. And it's not plug and play, you have to replace the Bose Amp if you have Bose or the non-Bose amp if you don't. You have to rewire the amp wires as they are different and you need to rewire the PCM wires as they are also different. You then need to buy codes to activate the various bits (Bluetooth, iPod, SatNav). The codes cannot be bought from Porsche but a group of us who did this conversion found a guy who can provide them. Yes my car had Bluetooth, SatNat and iPod connectivity. All in and installing it yourself it's going to be about £1800 assuming you can find a PCM that is in working condition for the right price. I got mine from the US. It was described as being 'removed new from a 2011 car', and it certainly looked new when it arrived.

All the parts I remove are sold on afterwards. I sold the rear seats and seatbelts etc to a bloke in Birmingham who has a GT3 and three kids whom are always fighting over who gets to go in his car. I sold the deck-lid, it's being collected this weekend. I have some parts still which I haven't got round to selling like the Turbo intercoolers, and other bits of trim. I will have a front Turbo bumper soon if anyone is in the market!

[Isysman]

So my carbon wings arrived today (both of them). I shot a quick video of what they look like as I've had a few people asking to share photos once delivered. They do seem very flimsy indeed when you pick them up!

Yes you can buy a GT2RS with winglets. However all of the cars sold in the UK were sold with carbon wings.

TB993TT I was at Tech9 yesterday and saw your car there. It is stunning. I posted some photos on my build thread on 911uk.com of it. I also ordered some of those tailpipes from Felix at Kline. Love them. And the reason I was there was ordering a pair of the lower winglets for the front bumper; the only missing parts I need.


https://youtu.be/Vrtx5nRxjmk

I also have these to go on. Michelin Sport Cup 2 tyres

Edited by Isysman on Friday 18th March 16:12

Edited by Isysman on Friday 18th March 16:13

[Isysman]

hondansx said:

Wow, this is commitment! I remember looking into the GT2 RS carbon bits when i had a Turbo S and the prices were astronomical. The car looks so much better though.

A nice touch with the GT2RS is the front wings. The GT3 RS has the cheap, stuck on arch extenders whilst the GT2 RS has moulded wings with the extensions all as one piece. I didn't realise until i was lucky enough to compare side-by-side when Supercar Detailing had both cars in for some work.

In terms of a weight comparison, where do you think you'll be at the end? I think it would be quite cool to have a bit more poke so you can match the GT2 RS' power-to-weight ratio. Just an idea

I don't know how much weight I've saved right now. I do have a link somewhere to individual items and what they weigh from an American website, I keep meaning to add it up, but haven't got round to it yet. Eventually I am going to have hybrid turbos fitted most likely by 9e so then it will outperform a standard GT2RS. That's a while off yet though. After the front end has been done I'm fitting Damptronics and a lifting kit. Then I'm removing the sunroof (I know that weighs 18Kilos) and am fitting a carbon roof. I'm also probably going to fit the lexan lightweight plastic windows fitted in the GT2RS at that time as the front and rear windows need to come out to do the roof.

Once these two jobs are sorted I'll be looking to 9e and also to fit a LWFW and uprated clutch.

[Isysman]

996GT2 said:

Might have to get me some of those cheap stick-ons, where did you get them from? Would they look a bit crap with the standard PU? My car's leaving the Porsche warranty after next week so it might be time to personalise it a bit.

They are not cheap! I just found this out as I had to buy just the lower winglets from Porsche. I tried to get them in various places, including the motorosport ones which you then modify to remove the indicator blank but they are not available anywhere (if you can get these they are half the price). The ones I bought from Porsche... £317 EACH! I don't know who is more nuts, Porsche for coming up with that figure or me for paying it?

Edited by Isysman on Wednesday 23 March 11:00

[Isysman]

Digga said:

hit the bed! I guess they can fairly validly argue tooling costs, low volumes, note from their mum etc. etc. but it still sounds steep.

Yes I think your comments are most likely the reasons they would use (especially note from mum). There are few around it seems as initially when I asked, they could only find one in Germany. They managed to find another but it doesn't sound like they keep many in stock. The motorsport ones which also come from Porsche where completely out of stock.

[Isysman]

So today I decided to go through everything to make sure I have all the parts needed ready for the next phase. I quickly decided it would be interesting to see everything laid out in order to see just how much new stuff is going on the car. The car is going in on Monday to Road & Race, but as yet I have no idea how long they will need. I have a feeling it's going to be a couple of weeks. I'm hoping to get access whilst they are working on the car and maybe be able to film or at least get some stills of the process.

I also added a clip of the car in that carpark accelerating away, which was fun. I was in there for a photo shoot for my car as I'm doing another article for SuperCar Driver magazine.

https://youtu.be/v1JgCrpYYJs

[Isysman]

m33ufo said:

You're obsessed! In a good way

Great job on the car

Hello stranger! Haven't seen you on the 'other' forum lately. Does this mean you have changed cars again? I thought you were getting a GT4?

Yes I'm nuts, but nearly there now.

[Isysman]

m33ufo said:

Got the GT4 and have a Spyder arriving end of April / early May. Depending upon what side of the bed I get out of I'm either keeping the GT4 and Spyder or Defender and Spyder. We'll see

At some point I'd love an early 70's 911 or recreation

Nice, so you managed to get a GT4 and get on the list for a Spyder? Impressive. What a choice to have to make eh? Not sure what I would do there, they will probably drive very similarly. I was at Oulton Park a few weeks ago and the Spyder and GT4s on track sounded identical. I think the Spyder is stunning and I love a convertible so I think I'd be tempted that way. I have a Boxster again now. I bought a 987 with a cracking spec including PCCBs. However I'm really interested in the new 718 so I'm gng to the launch and will go from there.

I'd love an old 911 but the prices have gone crazy.

Edited by Isysman on Thursday 24th March 08:50

[Isysman]

m33ufo said:

The Spyder was something that came up - right place at the right time kind of deal. Think I had the last UK allocation. I'm still tempted to keep them both and sell my Defender.

I think I'd be doing this!

[Isysman]

Car is set to go in Monday to Tech9 for the front end conversion! Very excited.

Couple of shots I took this week, for a magazine article.

[Isysman]

m33ufo said:

That looks fantastic.

A delicate question....have you calculated the total cost?

Nooo. I've been asked a couple of times. I have an idea of current spends, but I haven't sat down with receipts and calculated it. I think I'd have a stroke! It's approx £25k up to now. (But I think it's more) Not including the costs for paint and labour for the front end.

[Isysman]

redback911 said:

Had 2 TechArt conversions by Tech9. Phil, Mark, and the gang are an excellent bunch of people.

Looking forward to seeing the finished results!

Thanks, yeah they did the rear bumper conversion for me and I was very happy with the results. The paint work is being done by Road & Race.

[Isysman]

Tony 1234 said:

What a fantastic view

Thanks, it's been a long time getting to that point!

[Isysman]

Had a call today that my car had all the panels on now for the dry fit before painting. So I drove down to Tech9 to check it out.

Centre radiator is all in place now with ducting. I had to order more parts though as I'd missed some. The guy working on my car really knows his RS cars. He was pointing out bits I need and telling me about which bits are correct etc.

So Parts ordered, are ducting for left and right radiators
More ducting for inside wheel arches to direct air to the brakes as fitted to all RS cars and various bolts and bits to fix them in place. Also a metal bracket that goes under the front bumper to strengthen it when in place.

Porsche Wilmslow are sending them direct to Tech9 once they arrive which is excellent service!

[Isysman]

c4sman said:

Brilliant thread, thanks for sharing!

Have you met Rob at DMS Southampton, as he has built a similar project with silly BHP.

Edited by c4sman on Friday 8th April 09:05

Hi it was actually DMS where I had my own engine mods. When I was there in 2014 he had a Turbo with GT2 front and rear bumpers. He liked my centre lock wheels and I suspected he might do the same, do you know if he did?

[Isysman]

Got a nice delivery in the post a couple of days ago: my new tailpipes from Kline! Made from Inconel. Looking forward to getting these bad boys fitted.

As far as getting the car back I'm told 22nd at the earliest based on them getting the car back from the paint shop early next week (car goes in for paint Wednesday) and no more parts needing to be ordered.

[Isysman]

hondansx said:

Inconel tailpipes sound a little contrived in my opinion; the strength, durability and weight advantages are hardly put to the test for a couple of bolt on tailpipes! Good pubt chat though i guess

Out of curiosity, how different is the GT2's exhaust system (incl manifold) to a Turbo?

Well I could have bought an entire exhaust system in that material but as I already have a recent Kline exhaust system on my car I didn't need it. The material used was irrelevant to me really, I love the look so I would have bought had they been in Alloy or whatever. I have Titanium tailpipes at the moment which are OEM. Same could be said about them or the carbon mirrors or air intakes etc. Ultimately I fitted them because they look cool IMO.

As far as I know the exhaust difference is only where the pipes exit the bumper that is different. I had to altar mine as it was for the Turbo.

[Isysman]

steffg60 said:

Brilliant thread. I've been thinking of doing something similar to my 997 Turbo S but I didn’t realise until reading this how many parts would be required.
At this point I’m happy with the performance of my car and still getting to grips with the power.

What sort of figure do you think you have spent on the exterior of the car excluding the wheels?

I don't have exact figures in my head and I haven't totted up the invoices for fear I might through myself off a building. However just a quick calculation in my head now of figures on outside, with all OEM parts you are looking at about £25-30k. THat's assuming you do it properly and replace all the ducting etc like I'm doing. My price is slightly lower as my bonnet is not OEM. That's including the labour of paint and fitting. And based on getting some good deals like I have. If you want to Porsche with a list it would be way more. The decklid and wing alone form Porsche unpainted is £18k! I bought mine used.

Actually doing that quick calculation in my head makes me realise that I have spent quite a bit more than I previously thought! I need to go for a lay down!