Opinions on this Hartech car - 997.1 c2s manual

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Am sure some have spotted it on the ads.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
£33k
49k on the clock - Hartech rebuild done at 45k
It's mental orange
Manual

Top spec sheet:

• Sport seats
• Sports exhaust
• Sport Chrono plus
• Cruise control
• Heated seats
• PCM 2 navigation
• BOSE sound system
• PASM Porsche active suspension
• Park assist
• Centre console in body colour
• Bi xenon headlamps
• Headlamp washers
• Top tinted windscreen
• 19 inch Carrera wheels with colour crests
• Air conditioning auto climate
• On board computer
• Telephone module
• Silver instruments
• Home lights
• CD store

Walk around vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LFkBWLYtfs&fe...

Looks in superb condition.

Is that a realistic price for a lairy 911 with a Hartech safety net?

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Spoke to them & they were adamant it was the full six, not just the one. Also had preventative IMS upgrade.

Anything else to specifically make a note of?

Typically this will be the first one I've gone to see... I ended up buying the first M3 I saw as well, although that ended up fine

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anonymous said:

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Much appreciated

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MrC986 said:

If the cars been Hartech'd, see if the selling dealer has a copy of the invoice for the rebuild as that's the easiest proof of what's been done. Hartech will have a chat with you I'm sure as there can't be that many orange 997s they see! you can also put the car on their maintenance scheme if you're relatively local on a monthly payment schedule.. FWIW, my experience of PCT has only been positive when they were affiliated to Autobahn, though the PCT guys ultimately took over the sales side as well - I had my first 996 from Autobahn & PCT serviced it.

That would be my first port of call after a test drive.

Out of interest, anyone have any reference for how much these would usually go for? Post Hartech, maybe not the same paint scheme, but an '07 Gen1 c2s with ~50k on the clock?

Just thinking bargaining position etc. Although I'm sure they'll have a few enquiries.

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ORD said:

Looks seriously overpriced to me. You could get a 997.2 S for that money. Nothing special about it.

There are zero 997.2 s cars on PH or AT after a quick glance at the price. Let alone with the spec. I'd genuinely happily take a Gen2 if they're out there but I'm not sure if the market has shifted or what. Only 3.6 cars with poverty spec & middling miles anywhere near £35k.

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Bikeracer1098 said:

I know someone who recently bought a 2007 C2S in Balsalt Black with similar spec to the orange car, 51k mikes with FSH and full Harlech rebuild 6months ago. Bought private,y for £22,950

Neatly bought the car myself as a daily driver

Blimey. That the genuine value for these or is that one very fortunate purchase?

Any other Hartech sale prices out there to reference?

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jakesmith said:

If the gen 1 engines weren't known to be a bit crap, this car would be seriously overpriced. I don't see how a repaired engine adds value myself
I'd rather my money went into buying a newer car that would hold value better than one that had been well fixed
I don't think there is much performance between 345BHP Gen 1 S and 355BHP Gen 2 3.6
Surely something like this makes more sense & these will hold value better in the short, medium and long term in my opinion

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

Or this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Edited by jakesmith on Tuesday 28th February 13:39

This is the dilemma.

I doubt they'll take £5k less, but it does seem like it's overpriced by at least that much.

I'm bang into the colour & spec, along with the piece of mind the Hartech rebuild brings, but I accept the argument. If it were priced more sensibly then I'd be moving on it, but as it is I can't justify a >£30k Gen.1 regardless of the bells & whistles.

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There are a lot of silver cars out there....

Not that I'd baulk at buying one with the right spec sheet, it'd be lower on my list all things considered.

There's a thread on 911uk about the car, the garage won't budge on the asking price, so trying to get it below £30k seems like a no-no for the foreseeable.

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Tend to agree on the interior, would like some contrasting stitching if I'm being honest (although the Cayman R bucket seats in carbon & alcantara are absolute porn) but black all day long.

Might go check the Tango mobile out Saturday if I want something to do & leave an offer on the table. See if they get itchy feet in a month.