WIll you still buy a GT4 if it's a 2l turbo

[mrdemon]

Few rumors stating the Cayman GT4 will be the 4 pot turbo, circa £80k views on this ?

most OPC now have 10+ waiting lists on these cars with expected rare cars to be like normal , ie. 3/4 per OPC.
IF it's a 4 pot turbo are you going to pay your 10k deposit ?

I am 2nd on the list and am finding it hard to fall in love with the 4 pot turbo idea.

But it might be great.

[mrdemon]

EricE said:

It won’t be a 2L turbo so the question is pointless. Maybe the GT4 after that will be but for now it isn’t.

who not, it could be seen as a way to bring the new engines in early in some thing more exciting, then that filters down and owning a 4 pot turbo is then accepted once the normal models come out.

It's not like the GT4/R is coming out any time soon any way prob a my16 car available sept 2015.

it could be, this is what we can do, now buy the normal models.

[mrdemon]

sfboy said:

Might as well buy a Golf.

not as daft as it sounds, the new mk3 TT in RS form is going to have one of todays best engines imo the 5 pot 2.5L turbo.

I love that engine, the power is amazing , the sound from a 5 pot cool and performance a plenty.

Audi could get the new TTRS so right.

[mrdemon]

I thought the 380bhp was the 2.5l

The smalller Bhp entry cars will be the 2l

The torque will be nice but not in keeping with the car format.

As I said rather the TTRS with there 5pot turbo and a few tweeks, I am sure the mk3 will be good.
At lease it's light. I have a sports car for driving "the Spyder"

Let's hope some are right and it will be the 3.4 but not easy to get 380bhp from that without work.
Tuned cars with 200sport cats bigger intakes and remaps with flowed manafolds are at 365bhp.

So it has to be a detuned 3.8 .

Still think it's going to be the launch of the 2.5l turbo and so does my OPC.

[mrdemon]

Steve Rance said:

Interesting question and interesting voting results

very, there will a lot of people dropping out if they go turbo it seems

[mrdemon]

200bhp/ton is pants.

[mrdemon]

n17ves said:

Is that a fact? ...maybe if you like waiting an eternity between gear changes!

IMHO 300/bhp tonne with a responsive, normally aspirated engine (manual of course) is the sweet spot for a road/occasional track car. 380bhp will do just nicely for the gt4

on the plus side our Cayman R's will sky rocket in price if it is a turbo, looks like I will have to keep it a bit longer and put the super car ownership on hold a bit.

[mrdemon]

golf producing 400hp is a concept car, you cannot buy it.

we can all tune cars, my golf in a frock was 430bhp and you can tune those to 650bhp.

the 4 pot will never sound nice though, I don't mind a turbo, but on a 4 pot !!!

[mrdemon]

lets not make this a GT3 thread.

0-124mph both are slow, and as the mid engine platform out handles the rear engine platform the GTS can lap as fast with 60bhp less.

Hence why Porsche are now going to make a 250k mid engine car to go up vs the real super cars.

[mrdemon]

Carl_Docklands said:

It don't really matter whether the car is in production currently or not (although from the recent u.s tour it looks like it will hit in 2016) the new wave of smaller turbo charged cars from the Audi/vw group are all going to kick out 380hp or over. In terms of product positioning I can't see them leaving a 4 pot turbo cayman with anything less than 400 because those Audi cars will arguably have a more bespoke, nicer sounding 5 cyl. engine.

the Afla 4c sounds like a fart box.

[mrdemon]

itsybitsy said:

My point is a newer car with similar power and Pdk should be quicker than a 10 year old car!

why

that's like saying a A1 SPort should be as quick as a R8 !!!

[mrdemon]

2015 FRANKFURT AUTO SHOW is my bet :-)

[mrdemon]

you won't be seeing those sorts of BHp imo

[mrdemon]

gtsralph said:

My local OPC's salesman said it was called a GT4 because it would have 400hp and he thought a cash deposit better because letters (of intent) get lost - which pretty well chimed with my response.

If they can loose your letter they can loose you deposit. Chancers. A OPC who asks for money now are not to be delt with imo. As for him knowing what's is called, that's just bks :-)

[mrdemon]

I prob won't buy it if it's a 4pot.

I have my eye on another car so the gt4 needs to be a NA lump ie a new R style of car with about 370bhp and manual.

[mrdemon]

RBT0 said:

My info source is not hope.

Which is ?

3.6 means more torque also not just he 375 bhp you quote

Sounds great. Not sure why if you knew this you would buy a GTS still...

[mrdemon]

RBT0 said:

OPC.

Mine will be used rarely for track use, I think GTS with PDK, buckets, and x73 is the best for road use. On top of that, I would not spend £75k for a Cayman.

I speced up a manual gts to 73k !! Add PDK and that's 75k ?

If the new 3.6 is only 75k with nice bits sounds good to me, I would spend 75k on a Cayman

[mrdemon]

ChrisW. said:

But does this make it lighter, more agile, more responsive --- more R --- ?

The new MX5 (shudder the mention on such hallowed ground) will weigh in at 1 tonne straight.

Times they are a changing -- at last.

Mass is the enemy.

I said that on the Spyder thread, but every one wants to add weight lol.

People it seems don't want light weight, and even you have PDK :-(

Sad days, I dislike all new cars atm most are quite dull.

Who wants a 4 pot turbo ? Not many people, I won't be buying it over my R.

Every one does want PDK, PCM, AC though, you would think half the people here should drive bentleys.

[mrdemon]

Gt3 is said to have ni on 500bhp

I think 100 less will be ok :-)

A 991 gts has 430 now days, so a Cayman can have 380 no issue imo.

[mrdemon]

mollytherocker said:

I totally agree on leather. For me, it has no place in an automobile! I far prefer some nice cloth .

on your dash and door cards..yuk

Leather is the only way to go for the dash and door sill tops, gives the car a quality feel to it.
If I wanted plastic I would have stayed with my Lotus