2.0L 718 -20mm suspension options questions
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I really prefer the look of the 718 when it's on -20mm suspension. I think it gives the car the correct "stance". But sadly the -20mm PASM is not available on the 2.0 718 Cayman, you can only have -10mm PASM and I think that's a shame (and also silly of Porsche, although I can see that it's just a way of getting people to buy the "S" model).
So anyway, I'm not sure I'd want to stretch to pay for a Cayman S in order to get -20mm PASM.
I was wondering if it would be possible to get a 2.0 718 Cayman with the -10mm PASM, and then later on put on the -20mm springs if Porsche would sell them to me?
I suppose the other option is to buy a 2.0 718 Cayman with passive suspension and later put on after market -20mm springs, but I'd be concerned about the ride quality. Would I need new dampers as well if going down the passive -20mm suspension route? Could get expensive.
Thoughts are very welcome.
So anyway, I'm not sure I'd want to stretch to pay for a Cayman S in order to get -20mm PASM.
I was wondering if it would be possible to get a 2.0 718 Cayman with the -10mm PASM, and then later on put on the -20mm springs if Porsche would sell them to me?
I suppose the other option is to buy a 2.0 718 Cayman with passive suspension and later put on after market -20mm springs, but I'd be concerned about the ride quality. Would I need new dampers as well if going down the passive -20mm suspension route? Could get expensive.
Thoughts are very welcome.
Sparkyhd said:
Does 1cm really make that much difference (in ride height)?
Ask 100 people to view a car in isolation (not 2 cars next to each other) and I doubt more than 2 could have an opinion about height either way.
I can tell the difference btween -10mm and -20mm, yes. Ask 100 people to view a car in isolation (not 2 cars next to each other) and I doubt more than 2 could have an opinion about height either way.
Stance is really important IMHO. It's something the boys at Singer spent literally years perfecting. It's the reason their cars look so right.
hondansx said:
Absolutely, they will be fine.
You will hear a lot of scaremongering, including:
- It will ruin your ride
- Undo all of Porsche's magician's work
- Invalidate your warranty
- Cause your dampers to leak after 100 miles
My experience says all the above is wrong. Like i said, no discernible difference in ride comfort or handling (it just looks better), never had an issue with warranty (i accept suspension coverage is invalidated) and i never keep cars for more than a few years anyway.
If i had a particularly signifcant problem, i'd simply get the original springs fitted back on and wheel it in Porsche. Overall though, Porsche have been happy with my modified cars for both warranty work and a dealer principal even snapped up my old 997 C4S which was on BBS wheels, H&R springs and an aftermarket exhaust - and Porsche Warranty of course!
That is useful, thank you. You will hear a lot of scaremongering, including:
- It will ruin your ride
- Undo all of Porsche's magician's work
- Invalidate your warranty
- Cause your dampers to leak after 100 miles
My experience says all the above is wrong. Like i said, no discernible difference in ride comfort or handling (it just looks better), never had an issue with warranty (i accept suspension coverage is invalidated) and i never keep cars for more than a few years anyway.
If i had a particularly signifcant problem, i'd simply get the original springs fitted back on and wheel it in Porsche. Overall though, Porsche have been happy with my modified cars for both warranty work and a dealer principal even snapped up my old 997 C4S which was on BBS wheels, H&R springs and an aftermarket exhaust - and Porsche Warranty of course!
Edited by johnny senna on Tuesday 27th September 18:44
JayK12 said:
FourPotPorsche said:
The -20mm is known as Sports PASM or SPASM...and the latter is what you will get in your back if you spec it
Ah ok, Im guessing its abit softer than fixed rate dampers, so probably better for a daily.By the way, does -20mm suspension on a Cayman get over speed bumps OK? Or would -10mm actually be a better idea in this regard?
FourPotPorsche said:
Yes, there are plenty of reviews with the 718 on SPASM with 20 inchers where the reviewer states that the ride is remarkably forgiving in Normal Mode. I was going to spec it but was talked out if it by a Porsche driving instructor who said it was overkill for a road car...but if you are going to track it then I presume it is a no brainer
My apologies, I wasn't clear. I meant that I wasn't sure about getting after market -20mm passive suspension for comfort reasons. Like you say, the 718S on -20mm PASM rides just fine. spareparts said:
johnny senna said:
I'm not sure if I'd go for -20mm passive suspension to be honest. But there are a few 981s out here with it and I'm guessing it isn't crazy uncomfy?
By the way, does -20mm suspension on a Cayman get over speed bumps OK? Or would -10mm actually be a better idea in this regard?
The 981 Spyder has -20mm passive suspension as standard fit. It is noticeably less settled and composed compared to the -20mm SPASM as fitted to the GT4 over normal roads. The passive setup of the Spyder is what gives it its unique character and edgy feedback while driving. The GT4 is very refined and composed in comparison. (noise differences aside)By the way, does -20mm suspension on a Cayman get over speed bumps OK? Or would -10mm actually be a better idea in this regard?
Edited by spareparts on Wednesday 28th September 08:54
Does anyone else think that -20mm passive suspension is too uncomfortable for normal road use? I really like the -20mm look, so this is important question for me.
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