Porsche Panamera steering judder
Discussion
Hello,
My Porsche Panamera has a very disturbing steering judder at full lock or close to full lock. I know that this is not unique to my car and I am sure has been brought up before. I would be grateful to know if anyone has had the same problem and somehow has been able to 'cure' it. It would also be valuable to hear about any contacts with Porsche about this problem and their stance and help.
A friend of mine also drives a Panamera but has not encountered this phenomena. He has Michelin tires fitted and I have Pirelli. It has been mentioned by a Porsche engineer that the Michelin tyres are much better in this respect with the Pirellis having more grip and thereby is more prone to skidding/judder (Ackermann effect).
Possibly also the size of the wheel can play a part?
The Porsche reply to my problems is that there is nothing wrong with my car and therefore no need for any remedy. They are refusing to change my tyres from Pirelli to Michelin (my car is brand new).
I find the judder very disturbing and do not accept Porsche's stance.
Any comments/advice would be very welcomed.
Best regards
My Porsche Panamera has a very disturbing steering judder at full lock or close to full lock. I know that this is not unique to my car and I am sure has been brought up before. I would be grateful to know if anyone has had the same problem and somehow has been able to 'cure' it. It would also be valuable to hear about any contacts with Porsche about this problem and their stance and help.
A friend of mine also drives a Panamera but has not encountered this phenomena. He has Michelin tires fitted and I have Pirelli. It has been mentioned by a Porsche engineer that the Michelin tyres are much better in this respect with the Pirellis having more grip and thereby is more prone to skidding/judder (Ackermann effect).
Possibly also the size of the wheel can play a part?
The Porsche reply to my problems is that there is nothing wrong with my car and therefore no need for any remedy. They are refusing to change my tyres from Pirelli to Michelin (my car is brand new).
I find the judder very disturbing and do not accept Porsche's stance.
Any comments/advice would be very welcomed.
Best regards
Thank you all for your input.
I am fully aware of the Ackermann aspect but I have driven a few cars in my time including trucks and buses but never experienced anything like this. My wife actually (it is a new car)told me not to drive the car, she was worried that it would damage it. And so did I.
The assurance from Porsche is that it will not damage the car but could possible cause some wear and tear. The very pungent point I have is that some Porsche owners do not have this problem (like my friend) and that there must be some substance behind it! He is driving a Porsche Panamera with Michelin tyres and I am driving with Pirelli tyres!
So perhaps this is the solution? The steering judder is not acceptable.
Best regards
I am fully aware of the Ackermann aspect but I have driven a few cars in my time including trucks and buses but never experienced anything like this. My wife actually (it is a new car)told me not to drive the car, she was worried that it would damage it. And so did I.
The assurance from Porsche is that it will not damage the car but could possible cause some wear and tear. The very pungent point I have is that some Porsche owners do not have this problem (like my friend) and that there must be some substance behind it! He is driving a Porsche Panamera with Michelin tyres and I am driving with Pirelli tyres!
So perhaps this is the solution? The steering judder is not acceptable.
Best regards
Jackal,
It all depends on the degree of judder. Mine is severe and not something that I can ignore. I will do what can be done to reduce it with a swap of tyres being high on the list. Especially with one of my friends driving a Panamera with Michelin tyres and not experiencing this disturbing phenomena. Some of input above seem to tell the same story.
Best regards
It all depends on the degree of judder. Mine is severe and not something that I can ignore. I will do what can be done to reduce it with a swap of tyres being high on the list. Especially with one of my friends driving a Panamera with Michelin tyres and not experiencing this disturbing phenomena. Some of input above seem to tell the same story.
Best regards
Thank you all for your valuable input. Good to know that I am not the only one with this problem.
The more input we have on the effect of changing tyres the better. I will as I have said change the tyres to Michelin and I will certainly let you know the outcome. The swap will most likely be done in a month's time due to going abroad for a few weeks.
Best regards
The more input we have on the effect of changing tyres the better. I will as I have said change the tyres to Michelin and I will certainly let you know the outcome. The swap will most likely be done in a month's time due to going abroad for a few weeks.
Best regards
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