Buying an Aventador - pls help
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Hi all,
I'm considering buying an aventador and I was wondering if you can please share with me some advice on what to look for and additional costs I should take into account. Obviously it's very expensive and I just want to make sure I have covered all the known knowns.. The model I'm looking at is several years old and not under the lambo warranty but I understand I can purchase/extend it.
1. optically the car looks fine etc. but is there anything additional I should check? are there any serious red flags I should confirm on the mechanics of the car?
2. Are aventadors failures (engine/electronics) very common to reconsider my choice? I read on some online forum something small goes wrong and the whole engine needs to come out.
3. What is the typical cost of a service per year? does it HAVE to be a lambo outlet?
4. Other than insurance, service, petrol etc, are there any other major costs involved (ignoring basic knowns like parking etc.) - I just don't want to find myself 3 months down the line with some unexpected large expense.
5. One last question that I didn't check at the dealer - I know aventadors have a reverse back camera - but do they also have the standard sensors you find on other cars?
Thank you for all your advice!!!
I'm considering buying an aventador and I was wondering if you can please share with me some advice on what to look for and additional costs I should take into account. Obviously it's very expensive and I just want to make sure I have covered all the known knowns.. The model I'm looking at is several years old and not under the lambo warranty but I understand I can purchase/extend it.
1. optically the car looks fine etc. but is there anything additional I should check? are there any serious red flags I should confirm on the mechanics of the car?
2. Are aventadors failures (engine/electronics) very common to reconsider my choice? I read on some online forum something small goes wrong and the whole engine needs to come out.
3. What is the typical cost of a service per year? does it HAVE to be a lambo outlet?
4. Other than insurance, service, petrol etc, are there any other major costs involved (ignoring basic knowns like parking etc.) - I just don't want to find myself 3 months down the line with some unexpected large expense.
5. One last question that I didn't check at the dealer - I know aventadors have a reverse back camera - but do they also have the standard sensors you find on other cars?
Thank you for all your advice!!!
cgt2 said:
If buying from a Lamborghini dealer make sure it's a long warranty with option to extend.
If not a Lambo dealer check the terms of the warranty very carefully including gearbox and ancillary parts and you 100% must have it thoroughly inspected.
They are fantastic cars but be under no illusions they can be very expensive to run.
Even under five years old I've known cars needing £20,000 of work. If not under warranty that can be huge.
What year is the car?
thank you.If not a Lambo dealer check the terms of the warranty very carefully including gearbox and ancillary parts and you 100% must have it thoroughly inspected.
They are fantastic cars but be under no illusions they can be very expensive to run.
Even under five years old I've known cars needing £20,000 of work. If not under warranty that can be huge.
What year is the car?
1. It's not a lamdo dealer. On having it inspected - who does that exactly? I'm assuming it has to be a third party as otherwise having mechanics of the dealer inspecting it would have some baised views? If it is a third party mechanic, it has to be a lambo specialist? and how is the inspection done exactly - the carry is taken to the mechanic for inspection before I buy or the mechanic visits the dealer showroom? sorry if its a dumb question - i've never done anything like this before.
2. By checking the warranty on "gearbox and ancillary parts", yo mean that they are included under the warranty?
3. I actually have two options but both are 2017 (S and SV). Both under 10k milage. I also saw an almost new 2022 Huracan with proper warranty but I just didn't like it.
Actually is it simpler while buying the car from a non-lambo dealer to buy the lambo warranty from lambo directly if that is more safe? How much does it lambo official warranty cost?
Thank you again. This costs like a small flat I'm surprised lawyers not involved to check all this.
Edited by Batman801 on Sunday 9th April 17:44
Fast Eddie said:
Get a professional to give it a thorough check over before you do anything else.
You don't say how old it is or what mileage or even which model. If you want advice...............
Apologies, I intentionally have not disclosed the full details of the car. I just don't know who views these forums and I might hurt my offer conversations if disclose too much. I hope that makes sense, sorry if it's a bit odd. But it's a S model 2017, there is also an SV model. both are under 10k milage. I hope this is enough?You don't say how old it is or what mileage or even which model. If you want advice...............
When you say get a professional to go check it, what do you mean exactly. like I call third party mechanic to turn up at the showroom to inspect it? or have the car delivered to the mechanic for a full inspect? Is that what you mean? because obviously having the dealer inspecting it themselves is a bit odd and I could not fully trust (esp if it's a non lambo dealer).
Also how much does this professional inspection cost? and I assume it is done after my offer is fully accepted or I can request it before I agree it all?
Thank you again, this is really helpful. I really like the car but I'm worried and considering going for something different and newer that's under official warranty if it's all too much.
Hi
while searching more around costs of as Lambo, I found the link below
https://www.supercarservice.co.uk/lamborghini-serv...
it says annual service costs £1000, is this accurate? it also states a "major" service, for £3000 - how often I have to do this major service?
at the bottom it also talks about oil change cost being up to £3k for some models - does this include the Aventador S and SV?
it also says "epending on how much you drive the car, you should change the oil every 9,000 miles for the best results. or at least twice a year. Never ignore the indications that it’s time to change the oil in your Lamborghini. Some of the most apparent include:"
so I have to change the oil 2x a year = £600 minimum correct? this is normal in terms of cost and frequency on oil change?
Thank you!
while searching more around costs of as Lambo, I found the link below
https://www.supercarservice.co.uk/lamborghini-serv...
it says annual service costs £1000, is this accurate? it also states a "major" service, for £3000 - how often I have to do this major service?
at the bottom it also talks about oil change cost being up to £3k for some models - does this include the Aventador S and SV?
it also says "epending on how much you drive the car, you should change the oil every 9,000 miles for the best results. or at least twice a year. Never ignore the indications that it’s time to change the oil in your Lamborghini. Some of the most apparent include:"
so I have to change the oil 2x a year = £600 minimum correct? this is normal in terms of cost and frequency on oil change?
Thank you!
On having the car "insptected" I found these guys as an example which gives an overview of the process:
https://www.prestigeautoworks.co.uk/pre-purchase-i...
So assuming this is the process, is there anyone specific you recommend for inspecting a lamboroghin or its all the same?
thank you,
https://www.prestigeautoworks.co.uk/pre-purchase-i...
So assuming this is the process, is there anyone specific you recommend for inspecting a lamboroghin or its all the same?
thank you,
W4NTED said:
You first need to decide what car you want out of the 2. The SV and S (LP740) are two VERY different cars. The S is what I have and is the pick of the 2 IMHO if you are looking for a good drive. The SV is a track focussed weapon and what I would call “Extreme”! A proper neck and back breaker the ride is extremely harsh.
Lambo authorised dealers are desperate to buy back these cars where the provenance is solid and they do offer top dollar for cars with the right spec and then go on to sell them for top dollar too! So IMHO cars that are at independents most likely have something not right (missing service, bodywork not up to standard or a respray etc) so you would need a full inspection.
Any Aventador S without a warranty can be inspected by a Lambo dealer and then they can apply the warranty on it - the process costs around £8k with the inspection but its bloody worth it.
I personally would stick to finding a car at a authorised dealer as they come with 12 months warranty and I managed to negotiate another year on mine so had 24 months with rock solid peace of mind! Like someone said above, one thing wrong and you could soon be looking at a £25k bill. A warranty would cover this.
Clutch’s on these are pretty robust and usually last around 18-20k miles if the car has not lived in a city like Central London.
Tyres are expensive. Servicing depends on big or small. Small circa £2k big circa £4-6k depending on what needs to be done.
Try to find one with the highest spec possible and be willing to pay more for these as cars dripping in carbon are way more desirable and VERY rare as carbon options on these cost a fortune when new.
Overall the car is bloody fantastic and at £250k there is NOTHING on the road that matches the sheer drama of owning this beast. Do it YOLO!
Hope this helps!
Thank you so much really appreciate your insight on this. I'm certainly on this YOLO mindset right now that's why I really want to go for it.Lambo authorised dealers are desperate to buy back these cars where the provenance is solid and they do offer top dollar for cars with the right spec and then go on to sell them for top dollar too! So IMHO cars that are at independents most likely have something not right (missing service, bodywork not up to standard or a respray etc) so you would need a full inspection.
Any Aventador S without a warranty can be inspected by a Lambo dealer and then they can apply the warranty on it - the process costs around £8k with the inspection but its bloody worth it.
I personally would stick to finding a car at a authorised dealer as they come with 12 months warranty and I managed to negotiate another year on mine so had 24 months with rock solid peace of mind! Like someone said above, one thing wrong and you could soon be looking at a £25k bill. A warranty would cover this.
Clutch’s on these are pretty robust and usually last around 18-20k miles if the car has not lived in a city like Central London.
Tyres are expensive. Servicing depends on big or small. Small circa £2k big circa £4-6k depending on what needs to be done.
Try to find one with the highest spec possible and be willing to pay more for these as cars dripping in carbon are way more desirable and VERY rare as carbon options on these cost a fortune when new.
Overall the car is bloody fantastic and at £250k there is NOTHING on the road that matches the sheer drama of owning this beast. Do it YOLO!
Hope this helps!
you said "Clutch’s on these are pretty robust and usually last around 18-20k miles if the car has not lived in a city like Central London. "
unfortunately I do live in central london. Is that really risky? It would be a weekend (not even drive every weekend) car maybe at most do 30 miles. you think it's a big risk?
Thank you!
Fast Eddie said:
Without wishing in any way to appear unpleasant I think you need to do a great deal more research before jumping into a car like an Aventador.
Have you owned supercars previously or even 'fast' cars?
Why do you think you want a Lamborghini?
What are you going to use it for?
Also, very important from an insurance perspective, how old are you and what's your postcode?
that's ok.Have you owned supercars previously or even 'fast' cars?
Why do you think you want a Lamborghini?
What are you going to use it for?
Also, very important from an insurance perspective, how old are you and what's your postcode?
I have thought a lot about it. No I have not owned a super car before.
it's basically dream since I was young and now I can afford it. I'm just over 35 - the more i think of it I don't want to really drive it when im 60. It's just for the big experience of owning one.
unfortunately I live in central london.
am I being stupid?
Ferruccio said:
I went SV, I love the brutality.
Get it checked by Dave at Pangbourne. You’ll need to get the car to him.
you mean the lamborghin dealer at Pangbourne correct? Get it checked by Dave at Pangbourne. You’ll need to get the car to him.
thank you! I will call them today.
Any ideas much they charge just for the "inspection"?
also can you actually buy a warranty from them if the car is 6-7 years old or it has to be relatively newer?
I will call them anyway but appreciate any owners thoughts on this.
thanks!
lambo666 said:
Gearbox's can go at any time, and any mileage. One of my gearbox's failed at 3k miles, and at 14k miles. (30-35k repair bill each time !!)
Both mine covered under official Lambo warranty.
Most non lambo warranty's will have a maximum claim limit of either 5k or 10k, so not helpfull really on an aventador.
You can only put a proper lambo warranty on a 2016 car or newer due to age restrictions. 7 years old or 48k miles maximum I think.
1k inspection, 6.6k a year for the warranty.
Also if the car does not have a proper full main dealer service history (a main dealer stamp every year), I am not sure if you can add the warranty to the car.
A nice S model is on ebay which still has the proper warranty, where a deal may be done, but has 18k miles.
Good luck, great cars... (but my advice will always be buy one which comes with a lambo warranty) which covers everything!
this is super helpful man really appreciate it.Both mine covered under official Lambo warranty.
Most non lambo warranty's will have a maximum claim limit of either 5k or 10k, so not helpfull really on an aventador.
You can only put a proper lambo warranty on a 2016 car or newer due to age restrictions. 7 years old or 48k miles maximum I think.
1k inspection, 6.6k a year for the warranty.
Also if the car does not have a proper full main dealer service history (a main dealer stamp every year), I am not sure if you can add the warranty to the car.
A nice S model is on ebay which still has the proper warranty, where a deal may be done, but has 18k miles.
Good luck, great cars... (but my advice will always be buy one which comes with a lambo warranty) which covers everything!
so for a 2016 car I can only get 1 year warranty extension.. and next year I can't, is that correct?
I've googled so much - it seems gearbox failure is very common on lambos is this accurate? are ferraris more reliable on this? I don't understand why lambo warranty is so tricky. on ferraris it seems it's so much more simpler to extend.
last question - if the gearbox fails and you have a non lambo warranty, you then pay the difference. is that what you have now? and how long does it take to fix it, is this a 1-2 weeks job or car gets sent away for months?
Thank you again!
lambo666 said:
With regards to the extension question, yes that is correct.
Different gearbox faults are common and complex (I had a 600lt also that needed a new gearbox under warranty)
The gearbox's are very complicated on modern super cars, and if they go wrong and you have a proper warranty the manufacturer just replaces the whole unit rather than trying to repair it like the old days)
You are looking at approx a month to 6 weeks time frame when a gearbox needs to be replaced / shipped in and fitted / authorised at a main dealer etc.
I am assuming if you have a cheaper warranty, you would be allowed up to the claim maximum, then have to pay the difference.
I would not like to be in a position trying to put such a large claim in with a warranty wise / auto-protect / rac warranty etc.
A lambo warranty is expensive, but includes everything, a ferrari warranty (official) if the extended one does not cover much at all!
The black one on ebay is my old car, and is a good one, I am currently in a 2019 Blue Av roadster (with one year and 9 months remaining warranty).
I have now done approx 20k miles in 2 aventadors, so know there faults etc.
Personally I would buy the newest car you can afford, with the correct warranty and enjoy the car,
what's your plans when the warranty expires? you plan to sell it?Different gearbox faults are common and complex (I had a 600lt also that needed a new gearbox under warranty)
The gearbox's are very complicated on modern super cars, and if they go wrong and you have a proper warranty the manufacturer just replaces the whole unit rather than trying to repair it like the old days)
You are looking at approx a month to 6 weeks time frame when a gearbox needs to be replaced / shipped in and fitted / authorised at a main dealer etc.
I am assuming if you have a cheaper warranty, you would be allowed up to the claim maximum, then have to pay the difference.
I would not like to be in a position trying to put such a large claim in with a warranty wise / auto-protect / rac warranty etc.
A lambo warranty is expensive, but includes everything, a ferrari warranty (official) if the extended one does not cover much at all!
The black one on ebay is my old car, and is a good one, I am currently in a 2019 Blue Av roadster (with one year and 9 months remaining warranty).
I have now done approx 20k miles in 2 aventadors, so know there faults etc.
Personally I would buy the newest car you can afford, with the correct warranty and enjoy the car,
Is there a recommended way to drive it? automatic vs. manual? in gear 1 and stick it in neutral every single stop to prolong the life of the clutch?
I'll be in central london-ish where there is lot of traffic. even though this would be occasional weekend car - I'm quite concerned about such big liability. actually tbh I'm reconsidering the whole thing since starting this post. I'm glad I've done as there were a few things I hadn't thought about, so big thanks.
Also on valuations - every dealer is so eager to tell me how these will hold up their values and some telling me how they're going up!! - I know SVJs went jumped like 100k but do we all believe this that aventadors will keep their value or even go up in the coming 1-2 yrs? esp. noting the new revuelto + options might cost close to 600k?
thanks !
cgt2 said:
Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic).
Don't believe any supercar will go up in value unless a real rarity produced in tiny numbers. If it does, bonus, but expect to lose money. Early AV's have been fairly static at £140-£150k for years now but remember how much they cost to maintain. As pointed out above the newest possible car will be more reliable but will depreciate. A friend lost £80k in depreciation on his new S which he was quite pleased with as he expected it to be over £100k. Neighbour just sold his 2013 car which he lost £25k on in a year.
Understood thanks. And how about an SV - I think they're more rarer, 600 and 500 roadsters - what do you think it's their fair value today vs. 2 years from now? I know this is difficult but appreciate any thought.Don't believe any supercar will go up in value unless a real rarity produced in tiny numbers. If it does, bonus, but expect to lose money. Early AV's have been fairly static at £140-£150k for years now but remember how much they cost to maintain. As pointed out above the newest possible car will be more reliable but will depreciate. A friend lost £80k in depreciation on his new S which he was quite pleased with as he expected it to be over £100k. Neighbour just sold his 2013 car which he lost £25k on in a year.
starsky67 said:
Genuine question but if you plan to drive around London a fair bit, why on Earth are you considering an Aventador? It doesn’t sound like it would be enjoyable at all. Wouldn’t you buy something else for driving in the city a keep the Aventador for road trips etc?
I don't drive much at all in london. I prefer public transport or uber 99% of the time. the AV is just a childhood dream and now I can afford one but after reading more around the web it's really putting me off.I just read this long post at Quora that really has made me think twice - I think I just like the look of the car. everything else seems like a nightmare..
not sure at all now. maybe ferraris are more reliabile - at least the warranties are longer and extendable.. think I'll think a bit more before doing anything.(the first post from Flavian Alexander is brutal man):
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-daily-drive-a-Lambor...
Edited by Batman801 on Monday 10th April 20:21
lambo666 said:
From Lamborghini - To be eligible for the Selezione program, the car must be no more than 7 years old (10 for Urus) and have no more than 70,000 km (100,000 for Urus).
To renew the warranty, the car must pass the 150 tests of the Lamborghini checklist.
"Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic)."
Totally agree with this.
If you live in london, just join one or two driving clubs like drivers union etc, and go out for drives / meets with other owners on the outskirts of london.
Plenty of places to use the car properly if you make the effort (up and out at 6.30am etc)
Just buy that black one on ebay with warranty, similar cars are at main dealers for 250k!
If you bought an S model at 220k, I don't think you will lose too much, good cars with correct history are still rare!
Many thanks for this, that's great to know. so basically any 2016 SV will only be able to extend under lambo warranty for just 1 yr To renew the warranty, the car must pass the 150 tests of the Lamborghini checklist.
"Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic)."
Totally agree with this.
If you live in london, just join one or two driving clubs like drivers union etc, and go out for drives / meets with other owners on the outskirts of london.
Plenty of places to use the car properly if you make the effort (up and out at 6.30am etc)
Just buy that black one on ebay with warranty, similar cars are at main dealers for 250k!
If you bought an S model at 220k, I don't think you will lose too much, good cars with correct history are still rare!
I'll take a good look at the one on ebay, thanks
cgt2 said:
Not sure on SV as I haven't watched them closely, I'm sure others here can advise. I do remember hearing that although not limited production as such, there were actually less 'S' produced as it was only in production just over a year. The black car on Ebay recommended above does look great, I would be buying that if I were you and I think relatively safe at that money too.
Ok so I just checked the one on ebay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295605142730?). firstly I don't hugely fancy it (colour, wheels, interior seats etc.). but in any case, the warranty is only for 6 months. and it's done 18k miles..
in 2 years when the warranty is not extendeable it's surely sub 200k..
I had this thought that rather going with newer, you go for the most expensive you can afford - it seems the higher end attracts buyers that are less price sensetive? but I could be very wrong.
And where do you guys see fair valuations on SVs now and vs. in two years time?
you think something sub 10k mileage will hold up on value?
I guess lot depends on where the SVJ / SVJ roadster will trade while Revuelto makes way?
Assuming Revuelto comes around 550-600k new, SVJ variants will probably hold around 400-500k (?), that should leave SVs around 300-350k or lower? I guess lot depends on total no. of Revueltos that will be produced too - maybe 1k?
I can't see how SVJs and rest would continue to go up higher - why would they? I've seen two SVJs coups get marked down from 440k to 415k in the past 3 months.. has the downtrend started?
Really appreciate your views on prices. Obiously lot depends on the specifc options etc. too but let's take the average model.
Thank you.
you think something sub 10k mileage will hold up on value?
I guess lot depends on where the SVJ / SVJ roadster will trade while Revuelto makes way?
Assuming Revuelto comes around 550-600k new, SVJ variants will probably hold around 400-500k (?), that should leave SVs around 300-350k or lower? I guess lot depends on total no. of Revueltos that will be produced too - maybe 1k?
I can't see how SVJs and rest would continue to go up higher - why would they? I've seen two SVJs coups get marked down from 440k to 415k in the past 3 months.. has the downtrend started?
Really appreciate your views on prices. Obiously lot depends on the specifc options etc. too but let's take the average model.
Thank you.
Aventador 700 said:
Not on your nelly would i drive mine in a city regularly, the gearbox would be a nightmare! none of the models are any different in this respect, even with the updates on later models.
You really need to drive one for an extended time as they’re very old school in their approach, i wouldnt be buying one as a first supercar tbh, after driving one early on i decided i would wait until i had other cars in place that i enjoyed already.
For me, the days that the Aventador is appropriate or me being in the right mood for it, are few and far between, it is such a niche supercar, its like an old school supercar with futuristic looks, half its appeal (if not more) is looking at it in the garage, the other half is hearing the V12, a very small part is enjoying how it drives! though i do like the gearbox as its like driving a manual as you need technique.
Really really think about this and test properly, in town if you can, before you buy.
Oh, avoid a certain lambo specialist in the south that specialises in imported cars.
in terms of regularly driving in the city, I'm not looking to drive daily. maybe max 1 times a week for 1-2 hours. is that too much?You really need to drive one for an extended time as they’re very old school in their approach, i wouldnt be buying one as a first supercar tbh, after driving one early on i decided i would wait until i had other cars in place that i enjoyed already.
For me, the days that the Aventador is appropriate or me being in the right mood for it, are few and far between, it is such a niche supercar, its like an old school supercar with futuristic looks, half its appeal (if not more) is looking at it in the garage, the other half is hearing the V12, a very small part is enjoying how it drives! though i do like the gearbox as its like driving a manual as you need technique.
Really really think about this and test properly, in town if you can, before you buy.
Oh, avoid a certain lambo specialist in the south that specialises in imported cars.
and when you say imported cars I assume yo mean the one that has that blue SVJ (?) - why ? can you pls share your opinion. I haven't seen that dealer yet -but useful to know why avoid.
can you pls share at least 1 guess on valuation too?
thanks!!
I just want to add to your comments about london and Aventador and driving in the city.
I visited several garages for secure parking this week - I genuinely think you'd be shocked how many Aventadors there are in London - securely parked for whoever. I guess they all come out in the summer. Honestly I can firmly say there are more Aventadors in London than the rest of the country. there are multiple ones in each of these garages, ignoring the private garage of properties in SW1, SW7.
I visited several garages for secure parking this week - I genuinely think you'd be shocked how many Aventadors there are in London - securely parked for whoever. I guess they all come out in the summer. Honestly I can firmly say there are more Aventadors in London than the rest of the country. there are multiple ones in each of these garages, ignoring the private garage of properties in SW1, SW7.
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