570s - Reviews/ Videos/ Comparisons.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyBc1GnJVlM

Heres the first I believe - Chris Harris on the 570s.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBKfJaPHp0c

EVO.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLKidHEmbJo

X Car (Alex Goy) 570s.

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PHOENIXUK said:

Might be on the turn, quite like that....

DO IT DO IT DO IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-EZewjWIJs - Autocar/ Steve Sutcliffe verdict!

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cwin said:

Mmm,

Keep this,


And buy this,



Or buy a 540/570 ?

It does look a great car and gets the thumbs up from everyone who has seen and driven it.

lovely spec 12c - but is that front window tints I spot? :O

I think the 12c is a pretty thing the 570s isn't something Id describe as pretty (although I absolutely love it) its more functional imo. If you were to switch from the 12c to the 570s what colour would you opt for?

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cayman-black said:

So which is the Mclaren to buy now , this one?

Instead of what exactly?

Its difficult to say, I don't know how the 12c drives? But Ive always loved it! Warp speed fast.

But it also depends on your intended usage?

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hornbaek said:

I seems that McLaren is largely competing with itself. They all look the same, they all have the same engine and you can now choose to spend 100k,150k or in excess of 200k for a McLaren that is fast but pretty unspectacular. Is it only me or does the 570s look like a Gallardo.

Im thinking you're a troll?

As how the fudge does a 570s look like a gallordo?

Depends also on your definition of spectacular...

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sealtt said:

Yeah, definitely a colour to leave for the knightsbridge lot to showcase I think!

The car looks fantastic in subtle colours, the design is flash enough on it's own - no need to go OTT in my opinion - though can understand someone choosing to hehe.

I notice that they don't have volcano red as an option
What do you think to buying a car and having it wrapped if you want to change colour? EG buying in a subtle colour but having it wrapped in something a little different (but not distasteful).

I personally love the orange, but would probably end up with blue or grey If I had an order - would like to see pearlescent white physical car though.

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sealtt said:

Wrapping seems to work pretty well, never done it myself. But people seem to be happy with it, well on matte colours that is - seems a very good way to do it. I've not heard such great things about metallic finishes from people who have done that however. Of course online you can read all sorts of success stories but hard to tell who is genuine and who maybe has an interest in a particular shop getting business.

I'd just try and buy a colour I'm happy with in the first place, lots of choice on these cars it seems.

and it really doesnt matter what others think in the grand scheme of things - the cars for you after all!
Theres a fair choice of colours.
But I do wish there was a bigger variety of MSO colours you can actually see online without having to go to MSO direct!

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Streetrod said:

Err no! The R8 is £135K before options and the Porsche Turbo is £143K before options so how does that make the 570S too expensive????

Options can be taken to silly levels on all the above cars if that is that is your bent

I optioned out an R8 coupe last night - not to the max but a few desirable options e.g. sports exhaust, magni ride (no dynamic steering) etc came within a whisker of £150k!

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TISPKJ said:

Have to admit I didnt realise the porsche had gone up that much.

For the Turbo S yes. It basically cherry picks the better options of the non turbo and costs less than the optioned turbo.

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br d said:

It's like talking to a fridge freezer.

I don't care about "Brand recognition" or "crap residuals", I buy the most exciting car available and enjoy every minute of it while I'm still breathing.
It's a Supercar, why the hell are you even thinking about residuals?

If you're sweating over every penny the car is losing then you really shouldn't be shopping in this market. These things plummet like a lift with the cable cut, all of them. I mean we could all buy an F40 or an SV and stick it in our temperature controlled garage while we tap the keys on our calculators and work out how much lovely money we're making sure. However, if we want a ridiculously fast car to blast around Europe in before:

A: We die
B: We're not allowed any more
C: Our businesses fail and we have to sell it

then we don't give a flying fook about depreciation!

You don't like Mclarens, we get that but please stop wittering on about how much money they're losing on a daily basis because we don't care! If we did we wouldn't buy them, just like you clearly haven't!

Brands are irrelevant to me, I have owned all the main marques and I buy on joy, not on whether some fking judgemental idiot in the High Street thinks he's seen my car on YouTube.

Edited by br d on Sunday 8th November 22:07

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TISPKJ said:

Think we are at cross purposses here, I am saying to me the almost new 650 v a new 570 at level money I would go for the 650, I said before and got shot for it the 570 should be 120k starter money. all IMO of course.

£120k for a carbon tubbed car? (excluding the 4c) When an R8 v10 plus and a Turbo S is more than that? I can't see how they would? Or more to the point - why they would?
Admittedly they have the 540c which cuts power, brakes and a few other bits down.
I think they have priced the 540c/570s well although I'm sure it would be better if it was £120k and £135k respectively thus undercutting a turbo s?

Edited by mattf93 on Monday 9th November 19:56

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mb1 said:

I guess that answers your queries Baypond.........

I think that answers none of the proposed questions. Merely that he is reiterating about Values - you sure its not rambo lambos cousin? Also keeps rubbishing Mclaren.

Yes of course Mclaren cannot enjoy the brand integrity/value of Ferrari (and therefore the slower depreciation) - 650s haven't suddenly lost £50k? and Mentioning a 12c started at £169k - Most were 190-200k or more specced. A different car. How is that relevant to the 570s as it isn't in production. I personally like the 12c - not everyone else does!

What some people look for are clearly different to what TP wants. But some people have had Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche etc and wants something new and different - to call someone a fool because they want a bit of something new (and lets not forget BRITISH) is quite frankly absurd (TP Im talking to you!). You can rave on about the huracan having a v10 - the 488 has a turbo too whether you like that or not it will still appeal to a great deal of people.

The fact of the matter is 'each to their own' applies here, its other peoples money and I'm sure they've calculated depreciation and so on if they have £150-£200k to spend on a toy - they're not going to be stupid people. It is their money their choice, their opinion - not yours so show some people a little courtesy - manners don't cost anything.

I know this is PH and I'm all for healthy discussion, but personal derogatory comments are unnecessary.

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TP321 said:

thats my point - 12C buyers lost a lot more than 458 buyers. And they will continue to do so versus the Ferrari eqivalent.

SO FOOKING WHAT!!! Do you not think some buyers want to try something different to a Ferrari and therefore will swallow the depreciation pill?
That another person may prefer what a Mclaren has to offer in terms of design, performance, handling etc than what Ferrari or Lamborghini have to offer?

What everyone wants in a car differs. 12c's (that Ive been in seemed to have a very supple ride in comparison to 458 - yet in a straight line the Mclaren does 'walk' (not run) away from a 458 - the 458 did feel 'busier'. Yes you can say a 458 sounds better, yes you can say the 458 has a better brand - but thats just your opinion. Not everyone is a sheep and follows your trail of thought.

Fair play that you feel strongly but you shouldn't rubbish everyone else's opinion using the value/discount argument - I think some on here are bored of hearing it!

Edited by mattf93 on Thursday 12th November 20:25

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NickOrangeCars said:

Look on his profile - all his posts going back many months are pretty much all trolling McLaren posts, and all non-McLaren are all still depreciation related! Now I am never against anyone taking part but someone who does not own (or has never owned) has no right to comment on the rights/wrongs of spending money on a supercar if they have never experienced the decision making themselves.

I think when the only argument against a car is the value/depreciation/discount just shows how good the car really is going against Ferrari/Lamborghini
I think people use the same argument as they have no clue of what they're like to own (this isn't from my personal experience as an owner btw - I'm too young and poor unfortunately)

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garyhun said:

I can only assume that TP321 lives such a joyless and unfulfilling life that he does not understand what fun it can be or how to have it.

Sad really.

Edited by garyhun on Thursday 12th November 21:29

Ahhh Mr Hun! have you decided on your spec? or know when delivery is yet? (540c IIRC?)

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garyhun said:

I had to back out last week unfortunately.

Buying a barn conversion that is taking the car money with it.

Edited by garyhun on Friday 13th November 08:18

You poo! I guess when/if you sell that you can buy something like a mclaren

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Streetrod said:

The latest addition of CAR magazine is out with a comparison test between the 570S and the Porsche Turbo S by Chris Chilton. I quote:

"The rarity alone ensures the McLaren feels like the more special car. But so does the way it drives, and that must be the deciding character in a test like this. It steers so much better, accelerates that bit harder. It just puts a bigger grin on your face more of the time, and makes the Porsche feel, well, a little bit ordinary."

So that’s another test where the 570S comes out on top.

One of the very interesting stats that comes out of the article is the 0 – 124mph times

570s - 9.5 secs
Huracan – 9.9 secs
Turbo S – 10.3 secs

I believe the only things that could deter some buyers is:
Lack Of 4 seats,
Lack of AWD
Quite showy/in your face in comparison to a porsche.

Id still have the 570 over an F type R, AMG GTS, Vantage, turbo s and i8

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Hollowpockets said:

Those that love a car and plan to purchase accept there will likely be a downside and get on with it. why should anyone else care??

I'm going into a 675LT with my eyes fully open to the depreciation suffered by earlier cars but after my drive of a pre-production car I don't care, it was incredible and they are building truly awesome cars now. I wasn't a fan of McLaren until early last year but now with the quality of cars being produced it won't take long for the brand to catch up with others or surpass some of the top dogs.

Enjoy the 570 those of you who are getting them!

Upload lots of photos when it comes?