HHO fuel cells , Do they really work ?

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Hi , I am new here and am looking at opening a discussion about using an HHO fuel cell and its viability , I am interested in making/buying one and wonder if anyone else is in the same boat !

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charltjr said:

No, they don't work. Pure snake oil.

There seems to be some evidence on youtube that some of them do , have you done some research on this ?

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McWigglebum4th said:

They do exactly what they are designed to do


Remove money from dumb people


If you don't belive me then answer this question

Seeing that they are blocked by big oil but you can easily download the plans from the internet then why hasn't a rouge state like North korea using them to run everything?

Thanks , I am only asking the question , I am no physicist , there is an aussie company that sells a product that supposedly turns your car into a petrol/deisel / hydro hybrid , here is what he had to say when I asked him if there were a system that could run a car on hydrogen created by electrolosis ......................

You cannot defy the law of conservation of energy… ie you cant get more energy out of a vehicle or system that the amount of energy you put into the system,

A typical car of weight 1000kg driving at 60 km/hr (16.6 m/sec) uses 138000 joules of chemical energy per second to get to that speed… This means that you need at least 138000 joules of chemical energy ( petrol) per second . A hydrogen generator using 15 amp and 12 volts uses 180 joules of electrical energy to make a maximum of 180 joules of chemical energy ( hydrogen) each second….. So to answer you question – no you cant run purely on hydrogen from electrolysis… please don’t get fooled by the pseudo -scientific mumbo jumbo garbage from the US . they HAVE NO scientific knowledge and keep ranting about resonance… Resonance allow energy transfer to be optimized but does not create energy.

My Hydrogen systems do increase the thermal efficiency of an engine by using all the fuel energy rather than being lost out the exhaust. Modern vehicles wast half their

fUel as a partly burnt fuel out the exhaust. Secondly hydrogen injection allows fuel to burn at top dead centre rather than burn on the expansion n stroke …. Its pointless burning at the bottom of the power stroke of the piston. Hydrogen cleans the engine and ensures deposites don’t alter the air flow In the chamber = max efficiency

There are many other points to consider and these are found on my web page

My systems are world leader systems because they are designed to not wast electrical energy input --- the US design is only 15 % to 20$ efficient …..another reason why the US systems cannot work purely on water. My systems are 85% to 90% efficient





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