Fiesta st ecoboost

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dieseluser07

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I need a car for work, i will have a 50 mile commute 4 days a week so i need something that will do 35mpg even giving it stick.

Is the new st fiesta capable of that mpg even giving it some beans?

Also what is the long term reliability likely to be like of this engine. It has a cambelt bathed in oil and its highly stressed for the size, is it likely to last long? Will the dmf need replacing like your typical diesel due to the torque?

Im really stretching my budget to get one of these so need to know about these potential costs etc to decide if its worthwhile, i want a newish hot hatch and the only other 'reliable' ones i can find is a new swift sport which is probably really slow, or an abarth 500 which im not actually sure is that reliable.

dieseluser07

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J4CKO said:
We have a 100 remapped to 140 by a Superchips Bluefin, will do 50 on a decent run but mostly, on shorter runs it averages 35.

The engines had some issues early on with a coolant pip but has been sorted, otherwise seem to be doign well, there are a lot out there and not heard of many failures.

Great little cars, not that long ago a 140 bhp hot hatch would have been pretty powerful, barely rates as lukewarm these days but they go quite well, handle and brake superbly, its not they are slow, its just everything else has gone daft power wise.
Thanks for the info, 35 is crap considering its not the s.t, im wanting to go for the st in this case.

dieseluser07

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IanCress said:
Not sure if all this talk about the 3 Cylinder 1.0 engine is much use to someone looking to buy a 1.6 4 cylinder.

As long as you take it easy on at least some of your 50 mile commute (you can't have your foot to the floor ALL the time) then it should do 35mpg without too much trouble. I had the same (well almost) engine in a Volvo V60 T4, and that was easily capable of over 35mpg, and once saw almost 50mpg on a long run.

I haven't heard of any reliability issues with this car, but it sounds like you're buying at the bottom of the market so just be wary of any dodgy crash repairs and clocked vehicles.
Im looking around the 12k mark so should get a good one i hope, just wanting to keep this car a while so wanting to know about long term reliability etc, i wont be flooring it all the time but ill want to boot it on slip roads and to overtake, my trip is half motorway, half single carriageway.

What do people think about the cambelt being in oil? Its something ive never heard of

dieseluser07

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I know i said it was highly stressed and people dont agree but i probably will have it mountuned to 215bhp.

dieseluser07

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Dimebars said:
dieseluser07 said:
I know i said it was highly stressed and people dont agree but i probably will have it mountuned to 215bhp.
Aren't Mountune an official Ford tuner? There should be no issue if you use them then
Not necessarily, they might not know the long term effects after the warranty period is up

dieseluser07

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Swifty Sport said:
go for the swift, I would say
You have a swift and your telling me to pick the swift, lol, at least give me a reason

dieseluser07

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justanother5tar said:
ST215 here, on 30k.

Does 48mpg on a run. About 23mpg driven pretty hard.

Mines averaging 31mpg at the moment, but it's usually short cold runs or driven fairly quick.
I think if i can get 33-35 giving it beans often with some steady cruising aswell i will be happy.

Is 23 literally flooring it, harsh braking etc, like driving in the country for half an hour hard?

dieseluser07

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justanother5tar said:
ST215 here, on 30k.

Does 48mpg on a run. About 23mpg driven pretty hard.

Mines averaging 31mpg at the moment, but it's usually short cold runs or driven fairly quick.
Also is that 31 on the computer as i hear that overestimates

dieseluser07

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So im torn between a fiesta st or a swift sport, i know they are polar opposites but, the swift sport is 4000 cheaper at 2 years old with the same mileage, its japanese and N/A so if it goes wrong its cheap to fix, it just doesent sound like its quick at all.

But for the price difference if its good it might make more sense for me to get that, ive heard if you floor the swift you still get 30+ mpg where as if you floor the fiesta you get 20ish, so i would have to be more careful in the fiesta.

What do people think.

dieseluser07

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gweaver said:
dieseluser07 said:
What do people think.
Test drive?

The Swift has a more comfortable ride than the Fiesta ST, the ST has more power with little detriment to fuel economy (probably just a bit worse around town).
The Swift is reckoned to be faster than the quoted figures, but the Fiesta is in a different league for torque. The ride was a show stopper for me, hence buying the Swift. I find it fast enough.
What mpg do you get in the swift giving it beans?