Car to learn / 17 year old girl / general help
Discussion
Not me, but my daughter. She will be 17 in a few weeks and I would like to buy her a car. It's been a long time since I've looked at anything like this and it seems to be a minefield of insurance, and vast price ranges. I would like to spend £3K or so and it needs to be cheap to insure.
Can anyone help me? What car to get, best way to insure it (me as the driver?) and any advice.
Thanks,.
Steve
Can anyone help me? What car to get, best way to insure it (me as the driver?) and any advice.
Thanks,.
Steve
boxst said:
(me as the driver?)
If its her car and she's using it the most that'd be fronting....better to put yourself as a named driver - still brings the cost down but is legalYou'll find that whilst still on L plates the cost is more reasonable, I'd still be looking at the standard fare of C1's, Aygo's etc. altough think a little alternative too
Something like a nissan Pixo, suzuki splash etc looks wk but as fewer young people drive them they're a little cheaper to run/insure
Start with the insurance and work from there. You may well find that some cars are several hundreds cheaper to insure than other similar ones so that could be what makes the decision.
She has never driven before so is unlikely to notice that a Yaris is better than an Aygo, in fact I know a lot of young people who would prefer the Aygo as it's smaller. Normally fuel economy is important too, especially if sprog is paying for her own gas.
Stuff I'd look at:
Suzuki Alto - my sister has one, she's an awful driver but nothing has gone wrong since it was bought new for £6k in 2013. It's now worth £2.5k and is just about the cheapest thing to run you can buy. They also come in pink if that helps.
Aygo/107/C1 - ultra cheap to run, cheap to buy and plentiful. One is no-doubt cheaper to insure than the others.
Fiat Panda - Can squeeze 3 mates in the back with seatbelts on (important? maybe), cheap to fix and more reliable than you'd think. They're also quite fun to drive.
Nissan Pixo - it's an Alto with a different badge, built in the same factory in India and mechanically identical. Not available in pink though.
Vauxhall Agila - Only if she has no sense of style, but it's robust and cheap
Hyundai i10 - Ugly, but reliable and decent to drive
VW Fox - Decent value, good badge
Stuff I'd avoid
Ford Ka - It's a cost-reduced Fiat 500 and quite horrid in most ways
Fiat 500 - You pay a tone extra for the looks, I actually prefer the Panda (having owned both) to drive and it's far more practical too
Anything bigger than the above suggestions - means higher running costs (fuel and tax, if not insurance) and probably an older car with more miles for your money.
As I'm bored here are a few examples of what I'd be buying:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
She has never driven before so is unlikely to notice that a Yaris is better than an Aygo, in fact I know a lot of young people who would prefer the Aygo as it's smaller. Normally fuel economy is important too, especially if sprog is paying for her own gas.
Stuff I'd look at:
Suzuki Alto - my sister has one, she's an awful driver but nothing has gone wrong since it was bought new for £6k in 2013. It's now worth £2.5k and is just about the cheapest thing to run you can buy. They also come in pink if that helps.
Aygo/107/C1 - ultra cheap to run, cheap to buy and plentiful. One is no-doubt cheaper to insure than the others.
Fiat Panda - Can squeeze 3 mates in the back with seatbelts on (important? maybe), cheap to fix and more reliable than you'd think. They're also quite fun to drive.
Nissan Pixo - it's an Alto with a different badge, built in the same factory in India and mechanically identical. Not available in pink though.
Vauxhall Agila - Only if she has no sense of style, but it's robust and cheap
Hyundai i10 - Ugly, but reliable and decent to drive
VW Fox - Decent value, good badge
Stuff I'd avoid
Ford Ka - It's a cost-reduced Fiat 500 and quite horrid in most ways
Fiat 500 - You pay a tone extra for the looks, I actually prefer the Panda (having owned both) to drive and it's far more practical too
Anything bigger than the above suggestions - means higher running costs (fuel and tax, if not insurance) and probably an older car with more miles for your money.
As I'm bored here are a few examples of what I'd be buying:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
A friends daughter started with a Clio a few years back.
I'd be wary of spending too much on a first car. She almost certainly WILL scrape it on something once she's passed her test.
ETA : On my very limited experience of 17 year olds - I'm surprised she hasn't already volunteered acceptable cars?
I'd be wary of spending too much on a first car. She almost certainly WILL scrape it on something once she's passed her test.
ETA : On my very limited experience of 17 year olds - I'm surprised she hasn't already volunteered acceptable cars?
boxst said:
best way to insure it
When my daughter was learning to drive, we used Marmalade to get her insured. This was on a 2010 vw polo 1.2 which I think is group 3 or 4.https://www.wearemarmalade.co.uk/learner-driver-in...
Cheap & flexible.
I have been looking at this too, two windows open , one with autotrader and one with compare the market seems to work best, as has been noted insurance cost whilt learning is cheaper than after passing test. I have been adding a year to my daughters age and ticking the box for full licence less than a year to get post passing prices . I spotted a nice looking alfa 147 for less than a grand last week, insurance was more than for a nearly new fiat 500
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