Considering an M12
Discussion
Afternoon Gents.
I am Hankering after a new car. I've always really liked both the M12 and T350c. However, I just cannot seem to choose between the 2 at the moment.
The car will be used regularly and do about 10,000 miles per year. How do they fair (both cars would be appreciated) with this sort of mileage? I'm sure I read about a couple of M12s on here with 70k on the clock. Were there any issues along the way?
Also with regards to spec. Is are the 3 and 3R really worth the premium over an early M12. What should I be looking for to have been changed on an earlier one if I did go for one. I already know about the fan change.
Gearboxes - I have read some saying the 5 speed is "stronger" is there a weakness here I should look out for?
As a sense of occasion would an earlier M12 be better due to the audable please (air intakes just behind the seats) or does it become more of an annoyance and your better off with the more sound proof'd later cars?
Thanks in advance folks.
I am Hankering after a new car. I've always really liked both the M12 and T350c. However, I just cannot seem to choose between the 2 at the moment.
The car will be used regularly and do about 10,000 miles per year. How do they fair (both cars would be appreciated) with this sort of mileage? I'm sure I read about a couple of M12s on here with 70k on the clock. Were there any issues along the way?
Also with regards to spec. Is are the 3 and 3R really worth the premium over an early M12. What should I be looking for to have been changed on an earlier one if I did go for one. I already know about the fan change.
Gearboxes - I have read some saying the 5 speed is "stronger" is there a weakness here I should look out for?
As a sense of occasion would an earlier M12 be better due to the audable please (air intakes just behind the seats) or does it become more of an annoyance and your better off with the more sound proof'd later cars?
Thanks in advance folks.
Thank you very much for your input chaps. It would indeed be ideal to see the two cars at the same dealer, will need to take a couple of days off work to do it though as I am North of the border and don't fancy 7 /8 hours of driving in one day anymore.
I had seen that most 5 speeds tended to get the LSD fitted, but had not realised that it was the diff that was the main issue alone so thank you for that. Weight is not a huge concern of mine to be honest as the car will be doing a fair amount of road driving so adding some weight to gain reliability of parts seems a fair trade off. Though it would see track use once or twice a month in the summer.
Having looked at many interior photos of both the T350 and Noble it is clear that the noble (for me) really does need the leather seats, which most seem to have anyway. And it does look reasonably, but the T350 just looks other-worldly in comparison. This is a big point for the TVR as it will be sat in most days.
The TVR also seems to be winning on what I would call "pure sound" but the boy racer in me still loves the sound of turbo spool and the "chirrup" of a dump valve. That alone gets addictive.
I really am Torn here. Especially as I always promised myself a TVR before I was 30. Still got 5 years left, but...if I love the Noble, the TVR would probably never materialise...but likewise if I buy a TVR now the Noble would be unlikely to be bought later down the line either.
Decisions decisions....
I had seen that most 5 speeds tended to get the LSD fitted, but had not realised that it was the diff that was the main issue alone so thank you for that. Weight is not a huge concern of mine to be honest as the car will be doing a fair amount of road driving so adding some weight to gain reliability of parts seems a fair trade off. Though it would see track use once or twice a month in the summer.
Having looked at many interior photos of both the T350 and Noble it is clear that the noble (for me) really does need the leather seats, which most seem to have anyway. And it does look reasonably, but the T350 just looks other-worldly in comparison. This is a big point for the TVR as it will be sat in most days.
The TVR also seems to be winning on what I would call "pure sound" but the boy racer in me still loves the sound of turbo spool and the "chirrup" of a dump valve. That alone gets addictive.
I really am Torn here. Especially as I always promised myself a TVR before I was 30. Still got 5 years left, but...if I love the Noble, the TVR would probably never materialise...but likewise if I buy a TVR now the Noble would be unlikely to be bought later down the line either.
Decisions decisions....
Height shouldn't be an issue for me (I'm Jocky sized) so long as the seat move forward enough. I'll still have a weekend toy for quick b-road blasts too. I think the TVR looks more Daily driver type, but reliability issues would still be at the back of my mind I think. Having said that, I have a friend who uses a Tuscan most days and he doesn't seem to get much agro from it.
I work 6 days a week, I don't have time for a "weekend car". I spend most of my time either at work or getting to and from work. No point in me having a "banger" and a nice car as the nice car would hardly get used. Plus I already have 2 bikes and another toy.
Why have a nice car and not use it. Plus, that would be commuting in style :-D
Why have a nice car and not use it. Plus, that would be commuting in style :-D
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