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dreamshack

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Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Although normally more at home zipping about on the road, we took the rail for a proper mudbath on Sunday....





















http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kMPCYoG5bQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd7pOKzFhrI

dreamshack

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Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Driving down the river in the White one...




A couple more video links below


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=50302458638121...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=50302848304748...

dreamshack

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Tuesday 1st January 2013
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matlee said:
I like the simplicity of the beetle doner but ive just had a google and trying to find one cheap enough to chop up is hard work (unless im looking in all the wrong places).

What weight/performance would you be looking at with a completed vw beetle sandrail?
You can find a bug for under a grand, a spaceframe like the blue one is 795. weight depending on spec between 600 and 700 kg. The frame itself weighs just under 40kgs

performance is brisk, but feels very fast indeed due to the openness and wind!

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Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Huff said:
Looks like great fun! Think I saw the white one at Caring with Cars this year - and the conversion /frame is really, really nicely well-thought-out and fabricated.

I think the attraction is that with a standard beetle, these count as a simple re-body - the frame just bolts to the structural floorplan in the standard body bolt-holes with no modification. Since no structural modification - no IVA hooha to go through at all. I'd bet the result is actually stiffer than the original overall. It's a very neat solution on a fun-per-pound basis.
yes, no iva, that was the original design brief as a lot of these go to Holland where they also have strict rules on kits, and to keep with the ethos of the charity we wanted these to be cheap to build and use by any individual or organisation. Yes there was one at Caring with Cars, you will find them cropping up all at sorts of charity events across the country, that white one even had a spin around Goodwood this summer!

dreamshack

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Tuesday 1st January 2013
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matlee said:
Are there other donor vehicles you could use apart from a Beetle?
Yes, if you are willing to go down the IVA route we do a scooby version, 4wd front engined, and a "generic" rwd any V8 version using either scimitar/jag rear axle, or sierra diff. We can also do a land rover disco based and a suzi vitara based rail, but they are not as pretty, but again, no IVA.

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Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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...this one is very much more road orientated, the owner gets on here from time to time so I am sure he will pipe up soon enough



















The apprentices and work experience guys are getting pretty good now, we are looking foward to another year doing some good in the community and having fun at the same time

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Sunday 11th August 2013
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Disco/ range rover pics as requested.
This one is off to Beaulieu show today










dreamshack

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Sunday 11th August 2013
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The entire front, wings etc flip foward for access

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Insurance is specialist/kit, this one cost me fully comp for the year around £120.

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Sunday 11th August 2013
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this is all bog stock, and standard chassis for road legal...

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Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Forgot about this one we did last month. Good for jumping! long travel shocks, twin rears etc











dreamshack

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Thursday 15th August 2013
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The are around 700kgs

dreamshack

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Thursday 15th August 2013
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The 4x4 is heavier. But I can tell you from personal experience they fly. on road quick enough, and offroad just unstoppable

dreamshack

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Friday 16th August 2013
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Its a lot easier in a rail as there is no bodywork to get in the way. Basically they bolt straight on with an adaptor plate and kit.

dreamshack

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Friday 16th August 2013
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ugg10 said:
More good work there - been lurking on your FB page, do you have any more info on the sportster RV (post 1/8) - loks more minimalist but with something to hang wings off, also mentions roof ? Any completed pics ? Just need to get my (potentially) sick (as in ill, no good) v6 bike carb motor up and running (50% there, will have next weekend on it to diagnose) and look at the possibility of mating with the Audi/Boxster transaxle - long term plan coming together.
I dont have any completed pics - the prototype frame went up to our Northern agents for building up. Having said that we have another one on the go now for a chap who is going to drive it all the way to singapore! The wings are basically panelled in tubes, so you still have the tubular effect but with strong arches that compliment the shape.

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Friday 16th August 2013
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smiffy180 said:
Probably last question from me.
Where are you based?
And do you have any in stock to test drive/ see which one looks better? biggrin
We are near Southampton. We have the original old demonstrator here, bit beat up now as it gets used offroad a fair bit too! And we alsays have several vehicles here at various stages to plenty to look at

dreamshack

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Friday 16th August 2013
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smiffy180 said:
Cheers pal,
I'm up north in Huddersfield but it'll be well worth the drive down
Grimsby is the record so far for a trip down to look ;-)

dreamshack

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Saturday 17th August 2013
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the sleeker, swoopier, and very much faster scooby based version will be taking shape soon

dreamshack

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Sunday 18th August 2013
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the version with full scooby running gear will yes. But a scooby engine in a low-built one of our vw rails wouldn't