First MOT for an IVA pass
Discussion
I built my special 
which passed IVA in June 2014 and was registereed as a new vehicle in July.
So far so good, however upon trying to retax it online it was refused as having to be MOT,d.
Noew as far as I am aware it should go 3 years before needing one.
Any one know what the score is and how to get them to play by the rules?
Of course it will pass an MOT but that is not the point.
which passed IVA in June 2014 and was registereed as a new vehicle in July.
So far so good, however upon trying to retax it online it was refused as having to be MOT,d.
Noew as far as I am aware it should go 3 years before needing one.
Any one know what the score is and how to get them to play by the rules?
Of course it will pass an MOT but that is not the point.
It is on a Q plate and the V5 says date of registration 2014 and same for first date of registration.
I think this means that as it is new it should have no MOT however what I dont want is for it to have to try and pass the latest emissions because it clearly wont.
It did pass the 1998 one for IVA because the test centre would not accept that its 1990 1.6 MX5 engine was that age.
I think this means that as it is new it should have no MOT however what I dont want is for it to have to try and pass the latest emissions because it clearly wont.
It did pass the 1998 one for IVA because the test centre would not accept that its 1990 1.6 MX5 engine was that age.
Well gentlemen and perhaps ladies I thought the best plan was to phone VOSA which I did today and spoke to a very helpful lady who said that when the car was registered the box for IVA test was not ticked and hence why an MOT is requested when online taxing (and presumably Post Office too).
She told me that a car that passes the IVA full test does NOT require an MOT for three years after the pass date.
It was all sorted in minutes.
The car will be used on track and frankly an MOT is a minimum in my eyes, indeed I would be shocked at a fail.
If any body is in the same boat as me the phone no for VOSA is 01792782942 and I got straight through to a doer.
What you will need is the reg no and when the car was registered I got a letter from them that has a bar code and she needed that bar code number.
I presume also that if your having to have an MOT and your car was registered less than 3 years ago you can get it changed.
Finally thanks for all your advice lads.
I hope to see some of you at various track days this year and as the car has no screen dry too.
She told me that a car that passes the IVA full test does NOT require an MOT for three years after the pass date.
It was all sorted in minutes.
The car will be used on track and frankly an MOT is a minimum in my eyes, indeed I would be shocked at a fail.
If any body is in the same boat as me the phone no for VOSA is 01792782942 and I got straight through to a doer.
What you will need is the reg no and when the car was registered I got a letter from them that has a bar code and she needed that bar code number.
I presume also that if your having to have an MOT and your car was registered less than 3 years ago you can get it changed.
Finally thanks for all your advice lads.
I hope to see some of you at various track days this year and as the car has no screen dry too.
Well I think that having an MOT guy run his eye over the car prior to IVA does make sense.
The whole experience of making a car and getting it tested then registered is a mind mess.
I had never driven it on the road or anywhere for that matter.
Without a reg no I was allowed to insure it and drive it 25 miles to Southampton for a motor engineer to check if its fit to............drive on the road!
The first test was a fail in April. Emissions (CAT test) small lighting prob and seat belt bolts though they were grade 5 not accepted.
Then I am legally allowed without any registration number on the car to drive it home and then any place that can fix the fails.
I found Mitsi Art in Cosham Portsmouth really helpful with sorting out the emissions so that we could get it to pass the CAT test. This garage specialise in performance cars and know their stuff.
During this time I passed 2 police cars and sat alongside one in a queue plus going through several speed camera,s (at legal speed)I was never stopped and somehow it felt really naughty though completely legal.
Second test in June was a pass and after 3 years in the making I finally had a car.
Now I was unable to legally drive the car until nearly 2 months later after losing the cheque and requiring more details I got to enjoy what little was left of the summer and fettle the car to get it to drive well.
On an earlier post I stated that I phoned VOSA errr my mistake I phoned DVLA at Swansea and they sorted the no MOT out.
The whole experience of making a car and getting it tested then registered is a mind mess.
I had never driven it on the road or anywhere for that matter.
Without a reg no I was allowed to insure it and drive it 25 miles to Southampton for a motor engineer to check if its fit to............drive on the road!
The first test was a fail in April. Emissions (CAT test) small lighting prob and seat belt bolts though they were grade 5 not accepted.
Then I am legally allowed without any registration number on the car to drive it home and then any place that can fix the fails.
I found Mitsi Art in Cosham Portsmouth really helpful with sorting out the emissions so that we could get it to pass the CAT test. This garage specialise in performance cars and know their stuff.
During this time I passed 2 police cars and sat alongside one in a queue plus going through several speed camera,s (at legal speed)I was never stopped and somehow it felt really naughty though completely legal.
Second test in June was a pass and after 3 years in the making I finally had a car.
Now I was unable to legally drive the car until nearly 2 months later after losing the cheque and requiring more details I got to enjoy what little was left of the summer and fettle the car to get it to drive well.
On an earlier post I stated that I phoned VOSA errr my mistake I phoned DVLA at Swansea and they sorted the no MOT out.
I built my first kit car (Autotune Gemini) in the mid 90,s and in those days it was just so easy to get a car on the road and when I went to kit car shows I saw some appalling pieces of poor design and build both in and out of the show.
Today it is very different but we can still build a special and get it to the road even if we do have to jump through a few hoops.
Thanks government for that.
Some European countries will only allow cars to be built on a known manufactured chassis which in the case of a Volkswagon Beetle can be a load of rubbish when new!
Today it is very different but we can still build a special and get it to the road even if we do have to jump through a few hoops.
Thanks government for that.
Some European countries will only allow cars to be built on a known manufactured chassis which in the case of a Volkswagon Beetle can be a load of rubbish when new!
You are right to think the IVA are not the finish line.
Make sure when you have your pass certificate that you dont lose it and also use recorded delivery when you send it plus all the required details that DVLA want.
However I have found that despite losing my cheque and wanting even more details the girls I spoke to were very nice and helpful.
My first test was in April 2014 and as I have no screen I was interested in the weather reports, however the day was a superb one with zero temperature to start and really warm once the sun got high, ln short although the car failed I loved the drive.
Second test the wife joined me and a really pleasant hot day in June saw a pass and a chat with other enthusiasts.
The tester Brian was a decent chap who loved fast cars and was fair friendly and professional who helped me a lot.
My car also failed on under dash sharp edges and a strip of carpet cable tied over it all was accepted as one of the problems was a relay not solidly mounted but classed as a sharp edge!
As my car was not a proper kit but a special I did not expect a pass so 2 goes was fine by me.
I drove my car yesterday in the cold weather and 180 BHP with 650kilo vehicle = bloody good fun.
Make sure when you have your pass certificate that you dont lose it and also use recorded delivery when you send it plus all the required details that DVLA want.
However I have found that despite losing my cheque and wanting even more details the girls I spoke to were very nice and helpful.
My first test was in April 2014 and as I have no screen I was interested in the weather reports, however the day was a superb one with zero temperature to start and really warm once the sun got high, ln short although the car failed I loved the drive.
Second test the wife joined me and a really pleasant hot day in June saw a pass and a chat with other enthusiasts.
The tester Brian was a decent chap who loved fast cars and was fair friendly and professional who helped me a lot.
My car also failed on under dash sharp edges and a strip of carpet cable tied over it all was accepted as one of the problems was a relay not solidly mounted but classed as a sharp edge!
As my car was not a proper kit but a special I did not expect a pass so 2 goes was fine by me.
I drove my car yesterday in the cold weather and 180 BHP with 650kilo vehicle = bloody good fun.
You can do as much internet research as you like but when someone in authority says no you have to be careful.
Dealing with government bodies IS rocket science because they are not consistant where either IVA tests or registering is concerned, and that my friend is soon found out when you do internet research.
Dealing with government bodies IS rocket science because they are not consistant where either IVA tests or registering is concerned, and that my friend is soon found out when you do internet research.
On another thread a rubbish built car made a daily national paper.
This is the idea most people have of kitcars and they think them deathtraps and there is truth here.
You will never make a home built car as safe as a factory modern.
I had the conversation with my wife over seatbelt and seat type in the car and I told her to view the car as a four wheeled motorbike.
From a government point of view a death or serious crash is very costly (forget caring for us its all about cost).
Therefore it is in their interest to put as many hurdles in our way as possible and to strangle the kit car making firms gradually till they cease to be.
So today it costs a lot of money and time to run through the gov hoops, good luck because in 20 years time I doubt any kit car firms will exist.
Good luck on the 13th Paul, post how you get on.
This is the idea most people have of kitcars and they think them deathtraps and there is truth here.
You will never make a home built car as safe as a factory modern.
I had the conversation with my wife over seatbelt and seat type in the car and I told her to view the car as a four wheeled motorbike.
From a government point of view a death or serious crash is very costly (forget caring for us its all about cost).
Therefore it is in their interest to put as many hurdles in our way as possible and to strangle the kit car making firms gradually till they cease to be.
So today it costs a lot of money and time to run through the gov hoops, good luck because in 20 years time I doubt any kit car firms will exist.
Good luck on the 13th Paul, post how you get on.
The mistake we all make here is in thinking that there should be some logic behind rules.
There is a mixture of sheer madness and very sensible with government bodies.
I think the real cowboys of kit cars have all gone now.
Yes my MOT guy is also a friend and he has spotted things that I have missed but none dangerous so far.
I would not object to an MOT after a year certainly after an IVA pass.
I have a friend who owns an E type and despite the value of the car and occupants he is proud that the tyres have lasted since the 70's and is not bothered when I tell him that after approx 8 years you should replace no matter what the tread depth.
That car does not have to be MOT'd............but should be.
There is a mixture of sheer madness and very sensible with government bodies.
I think the real cowboys of kit cars have all gone now.
Yes my MOT guy is also a friend and he has spotted things that I have missed but none dangerous so far.
I would not object to an MOT after a year certainly after an IVA pass.
I have a friend who owns an E type and despite the value of the car and occupants he is proud that the tyres have lasted since the 70's and is not bothered when I tell him that after approx 8 years you should replace no matter what the tread depth.
That car does not have to be MOT'd............but should be.
Sorry my mistake I am not aware when the drop off on MOT applies in classic cars, I assumed it did not need one as I knew classic cars did not need tax after the early 70's. I am better informed now.
I remember only too well the Michelin ZX tyres fitted to old cars that were almost impossible to wear out but also had no grip.
As I like track work old tyres are not my bag.
I remember only too well the Michelin ZX tyres fitted to old cars that were almost impossible to wear out but also had no grip.
As I like track work old tyres are not my bag.
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