Venom Dodge Viper Replica Kit Car
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Hi there to all !
Newbie here !
Ok - i have recently bought a rolling chassis for a Venom Viper. This is a replica kit for a Dodge Viper. Its a kit that was originally developed by Fiero Factory. This was then sold to Keith Kirk who was part of the team that developed the kit at Fiero Factory. Keith started a company called Auto Speciali. Unfortunately he died 2 years ago of a heart attack.
I am looking for anyone who has a viper body for this kit, or a body and chassis unfinished project. If anyone can provide information or contacts to any that are possible available - please could you leave a reply or message me . thanks
car nut 1974
Newbie here !
Ok - i have recently bought a rolling chassis for a Venom Viper. This is a replica kit for a Dodge Viper. Its a kit that was originally developed by Fiero Factory. This was then sold to Keith Kirk who was part of the team that developed the kit at Fiero Factory. Keith started a company called Auto Speciali. Unfortunately he died 2 years ago of a heart attack.
I am looking for anyone who has a viper body for this kit, or a body and chassis unfinished project. If anyone can provide information or contacts to any that are possible available - please could you leave a reply or message me . thanks
car nut 1974
I have done something similar. Bought a rolling chassis - but with out body. Later then found Keith Kirk passed on 2 yrs ago.
The build instructions ?? - ah yes - a vague mention of how to put together on the auto speciali site.
Im hoping to fit the 2.9v6 - and couple it up to a mt75 hybrid gearbox which i will build myself from a sierra 4x4 mt75 box and a 2.0 dohc mt75 box.
i need some advice on where to get glass and lights for kit and a body too !
The build instructions ?? - ah yes - a vague mention of how to put together on the auto speciali site.
Im hoping to fit the 2.9v6 - and couple it up to a mt75 hybrid gearbox which i will build myself from a sierra 4x4 mt75 box and a 2.0 dohc mt75 box.
i need some advice on where to get glass and lights for kit and a body too !
If anyone has any pictures of any of there build project of the viper i would be very grateful - handy for things like - wishbone shim set up, wiring, brake pipes, steering linkage etc etc.
at mo we have a rolling chassis - which has been assembled by someone else. we are going over it again and needing to change a few things. so any pictures will be a great help.
any completed projects would be great to see too !
We just finished stripping and refurbishing the 2.9 efi granada engine. all new seals, gaskets, and all items either polished or painted.
next thing is the gearbox , but in mean time - plenty to do on chassis !
at mo we have a rolling chassis - which has been assembled by someone else. we are going over it again and needing to change a few things. so any pictures will be a great help.
any completed projects would be great to see too !
We just finished stripping and refurbishing the 2.9 efi granada engine. all new seals, gaskets, and all items either polished or painted.
next thing is the gearbox , but in mean time - plenty to do on chassis !
Edited by carnut1974 on Wednesday 11th November 20:46
Well - now the engine is built - the hubs are on, the diff is fitted.
Waiting to test drive a sierra 4x4 V6 to check the gearbox is alright - ready to build out hybrid box.
In the mean time we are trying to sort out the harness that has already been fitted loosely to this kit.
We are having a problem locating the fuse box. As we are using a complete wiring harness off the donor 1988 Granada 2.9 V6 - the fuse box is usually located in the engine bay area - in the bulkhead below the screen. however - we dont have that facility on this vehicle - so im assuming it fits upside down under the driver side of the dash ( which we dont have yet ) . Is it right that it fits on the right hand side of the steering column ? in between the column bracket and the chassis side frame ?
We are hoping to use most of the granada electrics - the only things i can see that need cutting out are - electric sunroof, rear door electrics, possibly the cruise.
Does anyone ever make severe cuts to the harness - multiple joins ? What do u use ? i would like to use single connectors that will house multiple pins - similar to ecus etc if possible. has anyone ever done this to locate the fuse box in a better place or for anything on the car really ? oh and where did u get these from ?
any advice at this point would be helpful before we get too deep in with the electrics.
cheers
Waiting to test drive a sierra 4x4 V6 to check the gearbox is alright - ready to build out hybrid box.
In the mean time we are trying to sort out the harness that has already been fitted loosely to this kit.
We are having a problem locating the fuse box. As we are using a complete wiring harness off the donor 1988 Granada 2.9 V6 - the fuse box is usually located in the engine bay area - in the bulkhead below the screen. however - we dont have that facility on this vehicle - so im assuming it fits upside down under the driver side of the dash ( which we dont have yet ) . Is it right that it fits on the right hand side of the steering column ? in between the column bracket and the chassis side frame ?
We are hoping to use most of the granada electrics - the only things i can see that need cutting out are - electric sunroof, rear door electrics, possibly the cruise.
Does anyone ever make severe cuts to the harness - multiple joins ? What do u use ? i would like to use single connectors that will house multiple pins - similar to ecus etc if possible. has anyone ever done this to locate the fuse box in a better place or for anything on the car really ? oh and where did u get these from ?
any advice at this point would be helpful before we get too deep in with the electrics.
cheers
Cheers to BASH0001 & Corrigable.
I dont want to put to many joins in.
Im a Jaguar / Land Rover Technician in the day time. Join wires all the time, but i dont want a huge clump of joins bulging out of the harness - so i was wondering about multi - connectors like the manufacturers use. Re-pinning is not the problem. its the connector housings im after. will take a look at those companies later corrigable.
I cant really house the fuse box in the engine bay area with out cutting the harness.
I will try and get some more photos tonight if i get the chance. im picking up a sierra 4x4 2.9 tonight for the donor gearbox, flywheel etc. So gonna be busy running round with that.
Will post more info when i next get the chance.
cheers to all guys !
I dont want to put to many joins in.
Im a Jaguar / Land Rover Technician in the day time. Join wires all the time, but i dont want a huge clump of joins bulging out of the harness - so i was wondering about multi - connectors like the manufacturers use. Re-pinning is not the problem. its the connector housings im after. will take a look at those companies later corrigable.
I cant really house the fuse box in the engine bay area with out cutting the harness.
I will try and get some more photos tonight if i get the chance. im picking up a sierra 4x4 2.9 tonight for the donor gearbox, flywheel etc. So gonna be busy running round with that.
Will post more info when i next get the chance.
cheers to all guys !
Edited by carnut1974 on Wednesday 18th November 18:17
Ok - got the Sierra 4x4 !
So now i have a LSD Differential if needed - (depends if dad wants to use it).
Got the flywheel and sandwich plate for the manual gearbox fitment.
Spare engine. Fuel pump, and lots of bits extra.
Got the 4x4 MT75 gearbox now to fit on to the V6 engine. Now i need a 2.0 DOHC gearbox to use to help me convert this 4x4 gearbox to RWD .
Anyone got one laying about ?
Aint manage to get pics of harness yet - but dad has done a lot of work sorting this out. got me genuine Ford Granada Wiring diagrams to help in detail later.
Anyone got any more pics of there builds too ? post them on here - will all be so helpful.
Should i start a NEW thread with a thumbs up rather than thumbs down for us Viper builders to contribute more ?
So now i have a LSD Differential if needed - (depends if dad wants to use it).
Got the flywheel and sandwich plate for the manual gearbox fitment.
Spare engine. Fuel pump, and lots of bits extra.
Got the 4x4 MT75 gearbox now to fit on to the V6 engine. Now i need a 2.0 DOHC gearbox to use to help me convert this 4x4 gearbox to RWD .
Anyone got one laying about ?
Aint manage to get pics of harness yet - but dad has done a lot of work sorting this out. got me genuine Ford Granada Wiring diagrams to help in detail later.
Anyone got any more pics of there builds too ? post them on here - will all be so helpful.
Should i start a NEW thread with a thumbs up rather than thumbs down for us Viper builders to contribute more ?
hey keef - great to have you here. i was hoping to attract clever guys like you to this place - so handy to have guys with experience.
im a mechanic but - never built a kit car - so all new to me and dad.
As usual your venom chassis looks slightly different to ours too ! lol.
i found these pics too - of chestersports cars - will help many i think.
im a mechanic but - never built a kit car - so all new to me and dad.
As usual your venom chassis looks slightly different to ours too ! lol.
i found these pics too - of chestersports cars - will help many i think.
Edited by carnut1974 on Sunday 22 November 19:33
Edited by carnut1974 on Sunday 22 November 19:39
hi again guys,
thanks to those who contacted me privately to add to our face book community.
some great pics.
What i have noticed - and i expected this is - all your chassis are different. we all know this is the norm with these cars. however - ours is significantly different on the back end.
All of your cars appear to have the sloping rear bulk head box frame work. Ours does not - but it has to mounting points to which i think a roll bar should bolt to - but was never fabricated due to Keith's sad death.
i will try and show a pic in here in another post reply of what i have and what you guys have - but i need to ask your permission first - so i will contact those involved shortly.
in the mean time - can anyone tell me - if they are aware of who - bought the last couple of kits off keith kirk before his untimely sad departure ? im trying to find out if others have my kit - is it earlier or latest chassis. so im guessing - anyone who bought a chassis in 2006, - 2007 - im very interested to see pictures of your chassis if possible .
Thanks in advance !
And .....
Have a fantastic Christmas !
And ....
A Very Happy New Year !!!
thanks to those who contacted me privately to add to our face book community.
some great pics.
What i have noticed - and i expected this is - all your chassis are different. we all know this is the norm with these cars. however - ours is significantly different on the back end.
All of your cars appear to have the sloping rear bulk head box frame work. Ours does not - but it has to mounting points to which i think a roll bar should bolt to - but was never fabricated due to Keith's sad death.
i will try and show a pic in here in another post reply of what i have and what you guys have - but i need to ask your permission first - so i will contact those involved shortly.
in the mean time - can anyone tell me - if they are aware of who - bought the last couple of kits off keith kirk before his untimely sad departure ? im trying to find out if others have my kit - is it earlier or latest chassis. so im guessing - anyone who bought a chassis in 2006, - 2007 - im very interested to see pictures of your chassis if possible .
Thanks in advance !
And .....
Have a fantastic Christmas !
And ....
A Very Happy New Year !!!
Some new info !!!!
Auto Speciali Ltd, Redditch, Worcs - announcement
It has been decided from 1st January 2010 to appoint Vindicator Cars (based nearby in Cradley, West Midlands) as our sole sales and PR agent. Please refer all sales, PR, spares and technical enquires to John Butler on 07703 289833 or via email to john@vindicator.co.uk
07703 289833 / 07886 177531
if you are not already aware of my company and want to know who you are talking to first, you may like to check out www.vindicator.co.uk
Auto Speciali Ltd, Redditch, Worcs - announcement
It has been decided from 1st January 2010 to appoint Vindicator Cars (based nearby in Cradley, West Midlands) as our sole sales and PR agent. Please refer all sales, PR, spares and technical enquires to John Butler on 07703 289833 or via email to john@vindicator.co.uk
07703 289833 / 07886 177531
if you are not already aware of my company and want to know who you are talking to first, you may like to check out www.vindicator.co.uk
Well - today we successfully managed to complete the 1st stage of our MT75 manual transmission V6 Hybrid project.
We took a 2.0 DOHC MT75 transmission - removed the bell housing, removed the gears and selectors from the end housing.
Then we got a 2.9V6 cologne MT75 4x4 transmission - removed the transfer box, chains etc. Removed the bell housing. Removed the gears & selectors from the end housing again.
3 main things are different here.
1. the output shaft is longer on the 4x4 box ( to accomodate the transfer box drive ) - this needs to be short for it to fit into the DOHC box.
2. the input shaft is shorter on the DOHC box - which needs to be swapped with the 4x4 one to work with the same bell housing - ( will explain later )
3. the bell housings are different - hence why we want the 4x4 box.
So what next ? -
Take the gears completely off the main shaft of the 2.0DOHC box, and discard. Discard the secondary shaft gear assembly.
Now take all the gears off the main shaft of the V6 4x4 gearbox and fit them onto the DOHC shorter shaft. Also take the secondary shaft gear set too.
Finally - discard the 2.0 DOHC input shaft. Fit the V6 4x4 input shaft to the new gear set you have just assembled.
Your hybrid gear set is now complete for refitting into your new hybrid transmission housings as follows -
Take the DOHC end housing - and fit the gear set assembly into the housing. ( this may need to be pressed in )
Take the V6 4x4 bell housing and fit this to complete your Hybrid V6 rear wheel drive MT75 transmission !!
Obviously thats just a brief guide of what we have done, and does not include all the fancy tools, presses, pullers, heat we used to help us complete this job.
However - that should help anyone to understand that it is possible to build your own Hybrid MT75 gearbox to your own requirements.
Also i would like to add that we will be fitting a new seal kit as part of the final assembly.
The 1st stage we have completed at present is - the gear train assembly. We will be assembling the casings once we have the seal kit - which i have on order via ebay !
Any problems i have with the assembly - i will report on here as i find.
over and out !
Carnut1974 & Dad !
We took a 2.0 DOHC MT75 transmission - removed the bell housing, removed the gears and selectors from the end housing.
Then we got a 2.9V6 cologne MT75 4x4 transmission - removed the transfer box, chains etc. Removed the bell housing. Removed the gears & selectors from the end housing again.
3 main things are different here.
1. the output shaft is longer on the 4x4 box ( to accomodate the transfer box drive ) - this needs to be short for it to fit into the DOHC box.
2. the input shaft is shorter on the DOHC box - which needs to be swapped with the 4x4 one to work with the same bell housing - ( will explain later )
3. the bell housings are different - hence why we want the 4x4 box.
So what next ? -
Take the gears completely off the main shaft of the 2.0DOHC box, and discard. Discard the secondary shaft gear assembly.
Now take all the gears off the main shaft of the V6 4x4 gearbox and fit them onto the DOHC shorter shaft. Also take the secondary shaft gear set too.
Finally - discard the 2.0 DOHC input shaft. Fit the V6 4x4 input shaft to the new gear set you have just assembled.
Your hybrid gear set is now complete for refitting into your new hybrid transmission housings as follows -
Take the DOHC end housing - and fit the gear set assembly into the housing. ( this may need to be pressed in )
Take the V6 4x4 bell housing and fit this to complete your Hybrid V6 rear wheel drive MT75 transmission !!
Obviously thats just a brief guide of what we have done, and does not include all the fancy tools, presses, pullers, heat we used to help us complete this job.
However - that should help anyone to understand that it is possible to build your own Hybrid MT75 gearbox to your own requirements.
Also i would like to add that we will be fitting a new seal kit as part of the final assembly.
The 1st stage we have completed at present is - the gear train assembly. We will be assembling the casings once we have the seal kit - which i have on order via ebay !
Any problems i have with the assembly - i will report on here as i find.
over and out !
Carnut1974 & Dad !
Edited by carnut1974 on Saturday 6th March 22:05
Hi there Teacherman
I have no body yet - so cant help with the lights lol ! - or the doors !
The MX5 lights were used by one guy who totally fabricated his own kit - dont get this mixed up with the Auto Speciali kit or the Fiero kit.
Vindicator cars - are now the marketing company for Auto Speciali who have full rights to the kit. I would attempt to contact Vindicator cars for more info on the lights at this point.
The Facebook thing - we have not started a group yet. - I think i will look into starting one soon.
Keep in touch. - Everyone has a bit of knowledge that is useful to someone else.
Best regards
carnut
I have no body yet - so cant help with the lights lol ! - or the doors !
The MX5 lights were used by one guy who totally fabricated his own kit - dont get this mixed up with the Auto Speciali kit or the Fiero kit.
Vindicator cars - are now the marketing company for Auto Speciali who have full rights to the kit. I would attempt to contact Vindicator cars for more info on the lights at this point.
The Facebook thing - we have not started a group yet. - I think i will look into starting one soon.
Keep in touch. - Everyone has a bit of knowledge that is useful to someone else.
Best regards
carnut
Ok - i just started a group on face book !!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=108377922515...
take a look if interested.
its so new - i have no pics or info uploaded as yet !!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=108377922515...
take a look if interested.
its so new - i have no pics or info uploaded as yet !!
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