Vixen Type 9 details
Discussion
At last the Type 9 is rebuilt with the close ratios many thanks to BGH. Does anyone have a template for the chassis mount, and is there a propshaft end thats suitable as the old bullet box splines are too small - is it a case of getting a Sierra end and making one up?
Also lastly the clutch I think will be hydraulic centre type - there are many suppliers but has anyone got a reliable one and if so who supplied it there's no way I'm going to want to take it apart again if the seals fail every few years!
Many thanks
Also lastly the clutch I think will be hydraulic centre type - there are many suppliers but has anyone got a reliable one and if so who supplied it there's no way I'm going to want to take it apart again if the seals fail every few years!
Many thanks
It's for crossflow on a S2 Vixen so it's hydraulic clutch, I would much prefer to keep a trad clutch arm and external slave but finding an arm arrangement is proving impossible.
The gearbox is short input Sierra with ali AVO bellhousing cast by MKF engineering. This also keeps starter/clutch on the correct sides. MKF are very helpful and looking at fabricating an arm but surprised nothing standard fits, it's a very well made b/h but at this point it seems no clutch arm in the universe will work. Goodness knows whats gone awry.
The Hillman/Sunbeam/other arm idea is interesting but by any chance does anyone have a definitive spec for an arm?
I have asked some ford parts suppliers but with no real conclusion to it.
The pivot point is similar to bullet box ie a rocking point on a central peg, hydraulic action and for type 9 size release bearing. Here's the b/h -
The gearbox is short input Sierra with ali AVO bellhousing cast by MKF engineering. This also keeps starter/clutch on the correct sides. MKF are very helpful and looking at fabricating an arm but surprised nothing standard fits, it's a very well made b/h but at this point it seems no clutch arm in the universe will work. Goodness knows whats gone awry.
The Hillman/Sunbeam/other arm idea is interesting but by any chance does anyone have a definitive spec for an arm?
I have asked some ford parts suppliers but with no real conclusion to it.
The pivot point is similar to bullet box ie a rocking point on a central peg, hydraulic action and for type 9 size release bearing. Here's the b/h -
On related matter, do the quick shift gEars ticks rattle and hum? Again a pointer in the direction of one which has worked would be appreciated. I'm hearing from MKF next week regarding an anvil produced clutch arm so I hope it's good news although again if anyone has a spec on a manufacturers one which works it would be a godsend!
Adrian@ said:
Rattle, in what way, the type 9 quick shift uses the same type 9 plastic bush as the standard gear lever, so it should be no different than the standard 'rattle' ..that said, none of the gearbox builders (inc BGH) that I know will warranty their gearboxes if you mention to them that you are using one.
Adrian@
All sorts of mods been tried by people to resolve the rattle/buzzing. Rally Design only sell racing shifts where buzzing isn't a problem (ie theirs rattle). In fact BGH are fine with it, they just don't sell them. Adrian@
I was hoping someone may have fitted one that's definitely OK and know where it came from...
Adrian@ said:
I have my owns cars and 40 odd customers cars and not one of them have complained about buzzing on any of my type nine conversions, but then, not one of them are running a standard front lay gear bearing. I would want that in writing from any gearbox builder.
Adrian@
That's very reassuring A. There's a heck of a lot of people elsewhere that have had problems and I'm more than happy to drill and tap in three grub screws to better hold the ball but would prefer to just get one that won't need it. The type 9 installation is supposed to be straightforward but at every turn there are ifs and buts and it's no surprise that no one has been able to identify a supplier yet who can do a shift that's ok. The bellhousing setup should also have been straightforward but has led to the discovery that despite many having been made and sold no one has actually fitted a clutch with an arm to one.Adrian@
So much for the one weekend in/out job I had planned. Sigh.
At this point the plan is:
1. Bodged clutch lever, being done now and if it works it will be called 'fabricated'
2. If 1. works out then get clutch stuff ready
3. Propshaft from Bailey Morris they might as well have my other arm and leg from when I had new driveshafts last year.
4. Gearbox mount. See 1. above, 'fabricated' when the gearbox is in
5. Gearstick - sticking to sierra standard until its all tested. Then do the grub screw shuffle on a short shifter (not wishing to sound like a Ford Mustang Forum!).
Still surprised at all the unknowns there are despite the conversion having been done many times in many cars but there you go! Its getting past 1. thats going to be interesting....
1. Bodged clutch lever, being done now and if it works it will be called 'fabricated'
2. If 1. works out then get clutch stuff ready
3. Propshaft from Bailey Morris they might as well have my other arm and leg from when I had new driveshafts last year.
4. Gearbox mount. See 1. above, 'fabricated' when the gearbox is in
5. Gearstick - sticking to sierra standard until its all tested. Then do the grub screw shuffle on a short shifter (not wishing to sound like a Ford Mustang Forum!).
Still surprised at all the unknowns there are despite the conversion having been done many times in many cars but there you go! Its getting past 1. thats going to be interesting....
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