Btcc 2015

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Well later than usual but with the last race over for 2014 time for the long winter and various stories to pop up maybe volov/kia will be said to be coming in or maybe clyde valley racing some may not get that last one.

Very few confirmed entries at the moment but plenty of rumors going around and we may see a really shaken up grid next year with new cars, teams, drivers in different team etc.

Amd are planning on a 2nd car team next year along with rotek racing, marc hynes will continue with the mg as well not much more than that atm but there are plenty of rumours regards to will mg continue in the championship, will dynamics move to the type r, will eurotech still race with the Honda, will plato be in a rwd car, will both menu and gio continue list is endless.

Interesting off season ahead I think.

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Munter said:

AMD87 said:

Ok who's is that?

Not all that clued up on infiniti but these are rwd if im correct and plato has said he wants to drive rwd next year maybe. would be nice to have in the field as well as jaguar.

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So the first 2 fully confirmed team and driver combination sorted will start a entry list with confirmed cars and drivers only.

Great news to have another manufacture backed teams in the btcc.

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tux said:

MG CHRIS said:

So the first 2 fully confirmed team and driver combination sorted will start a entry list with confirmed cars and drivers only.

Great news to have another manufacture backed teams in the btcc.

Its not a manufacturer backed team per say, its just sponsorship, the same way Infiniti sponsor Red Bull.

They are interested enough to sponsor, hopefully this may lead to a full on works effort in the future.

Edited by tux on Thursday 16th October 21:02

Sounds like a similar thing to mg with 888 wonder if infiniti are supplying the shells. Also I vaguely remember something last year or the year before mentioning a million pound touring car im sure the drivers names was also mentioned with it so maybe this has been behind closed doors for a while and that's why gow wanted to keep 2 license back just for this.

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So more news ciceley racing are to build a 2nd merc for aiden moffet and also a possibility of a 3rd car being built. Also chris Stockton has mentioned on getting a saloon cruze so aiden moffets old one then or bare shell anyway.

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SV8Predator said:

New rules:

http://www.touringcars.net/2014/10/btcc-to-make-ra...

Liking most of it infact, more ballast is a good thing as it wasn't doing much this year and the 2nd race start positions from fastest laps in race 1.

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ZX10R NIN said:

MG CHRIS said:

Liking most of it infact, more ballast is a good thing as it wasn't doing much this year and the 2nd race start positions from fastest laps in race 1.

It's a shame they didn't have a rule saying the cars had to be saloons or 4 door coupes as interesting as BTCC was this year if V8 Supercars was on Motors Tv I'd turn over & watch that, rather than seeing Civics & A class Hatches etc (The Could Use A CLA & Civic Type R Saloon) I also think they should lose the Halfords wheel arches & look more like the road cars.

Yes but the problem with the car market its full with focus shapped cars so that's where the teams are going to use, also a like to see variety of different shapes not all 4 door boxes. People moaned when cars looked to standard ie the mg at media day in 2012 for example.

The problem I have with the v8 supercars is that paint all the car white take off all the badges etc and they all look very similar where as in the btcc you would be able to tell the different cars apart. This year we had 4 door saloons like the Passat /2 door hatch like the bmw, 4 door hatch like the mg and the estate of the civic touring only thing that is not allowed is coupe.

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ZX10R NIN said:

ZX10R NIN said:

MG CHRIS said:

ZX10R NIN said:

MG CHRIS said:

Liking most of it infact, more ballast is a good thing as it wasn't doing much this year and the 2nd race start positions from fastest laps in race 1.

It's a shame they didn't have a rule saying the cars had to be saloons or 4 door coupes as interesting as BTCC was this year if V8 Supercars was on Motors Tv I'd turn over & watch that, rather than seeing Civics & A class Hatches etc (The Could Use A CLA & Civic Type R Saloon) I also think they should lose the Halfords wheel arches & look more like the road cars.

Yes but the problem with the car market its full with focus shapped cars so that's where the teams are going to use, also a like to see variety of different shapes not all 4 door boxes. People moaned when cars looked to standard ie the mg at media day in 2012 for example.

The problem I have with the v8 supercars is that paint all the car white take off all the badges etc and they all look very similar where as in the btcc you would be able to tell the different cars apart. This year we had 4 door saloons like the Passat /2 door hatch like the bmw, 4 door hatch like the mg and the estate of the civic touring only thing that is not allowed is coupe.

okay so not all saloons but lose the comedy arches

Most cars can comfortably fit 19's & 20's under their arches so for me there is no need for the arches "Race On Sunday Sell On Monday" rings true, less so when the cars don't represent what you go back to at the car park.

The arches on the smaller cars are to meet the minimum width, the bigger cars don't have as big an arch. The teams don't care for race on sunday sell on Monday as they are independent teams, mg don't sell much on the btcc programme and same from Honda how many civic tourers do you see on the road ive seen one.

The btcc has gone down this route to attract the smaller teams manufactures kill most things they enter as the cost goes mental teams pull out and we back to what it was like in 2000.

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ZX10R NIN said:

Roo said:

ZX10R NIN said:

Even more so for the independent teams the more it looks like the guy on the streets car the more likely he is to find out who they are if he wants mods it works on race bikes so why not Btcc?

Just a thought I haven't watched enough to say I'm fully versed but if the car doesn't meet the requirement (with the arches) why not pick a car from the range that does.

How many of the BTCC teams carry out/offer mods to road cars?

If not why not loads of independent bike teams offer services from simple suspension set ups to full tunes

888 used to do a few special edition Vauxhall models when they were a works out fit with Vauxhall, amd tunning do a lot with vw and ford mods but they done that way before btcc. Ciceley racing merc a class is a merc commercial dealer with the trucks.
Dynamics/Honda well they have a big market for wheels that's there main earner thorny motorsport with the insignia did Vauxhall mods too but since sold the cars and are now no longer.

The rest just do it as a motorsport team or for fun lea wood for example.

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ZX10R NIN said:

MG CHRIS said:

ZX10R NIN said:

ZX10R NIN said:

MG CHRIS said:

ZX10R NIN said:

MG CHRIS said:

Liking most of it infact, more ballast is a good thing as it wasn't doing much this year and the 2nd race start positions from fastest laps in race 1.

It's a shame they didn't have a rule saying the cars had to be saloons or 4 door coupes as interesting as BTCC was this year if V8 Supercars was on Motors Tv I'd turn over & watch that, rather than seeing Civics & A class Hatches etc (The Could Use A CLA & Civic Type R Saloon) I also think they should lose the Halfords wheel arches & look more like the road cars.

Yes but the problem with the car market its full with focus shapped cars so that's where the teams are going to use, also a like to see variety of different shapes not all 4 door boxes. People moaned when cars looked to standard ie the mg at media day in 2012 for example.

The problem I have with the v8 supercars is that paint all the car white take off all the badges etc and they all look very similar where as in the btcc you would be able to tell the different cars apart. This year we had 4 door saloons like the Passat /2 door hatch like the bmw, 4 door hatch like the mg and the estate of the civic touring only thing that is not allowed is coupe.

okay so not all saloons but lose the comedy arches

Most cars can comfortably fit 19's & 20's under their arches so for me there is no need for the arches "Race On Sunday Sell On Monday" rings true, less so when the cars don't represent what you go back to at the car park.

The arches on the smaller cars are to meet the minimum width, the bigger cars don't have as big an arch. The teams don't care for race on sunday sell on Monday as they are independent teams, mg don't sell much on the btcc programme and same from Honda how many civic tourers do you see on the road ive seen one.

The btcc has gone down this route to attract the smaller teams manufactures kill most things they enter as the cost goes mental teams pull out and we back to what it was like in 2000.

Even more so for the independent teams the more it looks like the guy on the streets car the more likely he is to find out who they are if he wants mods it works on race bikes so why not Btcc?

Just a thought I haven't watched enough to say I'm fully versed but if the car doesn't meet the requirement (with the arches) why not pick a car from the range that does.

Because often its either the only model to use or its the model that will most benefit them, Honda use the civic as its british made, welch used the proton as its was the cheapest car to base it on, merc a class for cicely racing was used as it was what they wanted to.
Most of the car fit in with the regs fine but gow used his discretion to allow the other with extended wheel arches as its better for the series to have more cars on the grid. However there was a team planning on entering with a fiat grande punto which gow said its simple not grande enough as it was way to small.

Just put it this way the civic is only a bit shorter than the accord that ran in the 90s that how small saloon cars were back then compared to new cars today.

Ive seen a few super touring cars at motorsport events and they are small compared to new cars.

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rubystone said:

Cyder said:

The main system might be, but I'm not sure about the architecture, batteries, cooling systems and packaging layout. And I'm sure the RBR engineers wouldn't be visiting Nissan for tea and coffee meetings and to discuss the weather.

It's marketing BS. They probably visit them to deliver stickers for that Vettel edition Lexus hybrid.

Leave the f1 crap to the f1 thread please.

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rubystone said:

Cyder said:

Ok then, I guess working in 'risk strategy and consulting' gives you more of an idea than me about the agreement, I only work with the guys who've been working with RBR, what would I know.

Anyway MGChris is right, this is for another thread really.

So why quote guff in the press? I'd love to know what tech has transferred from one to the other, I really would. And how it has filtered down to the road cars too.

ffs fk off with your f1 crap to the f1 part of the forum.

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lickatysplit said:

Will we see nw cars on this grid next year? new manufacturers? It would be good to see Mazda or a return of Vauxhall? Lexus with a decent Package behind them

Yes we will 2 atm with more tbc go back to the beginning of the thread and its somewhere between there and your post.

Vauxhall wont return to busy with football, mazda never really were in it apart from privateer teams, lexus well we have something similar in that with infiniti joining.

Amd are trying to get a 2nd car but it all depends on the tbl. Good to see mike get a chance he showed some good speed in his first outing last year.

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Belcher is back for 2014 with handy motorsport/speedworks.

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AMD87 said:

MG CHRIS said:

Belcher is back for 2014 with handy motorsport/speedworks.

NGTC Delorean?

Lol yea took me a while to work that out ooppss long day in work im blaming that on.

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Roo said:

BTCC Forum are suggesting Crabbies as the main sponsor with Jack and Mat driving with this as the third car.

Interesting makes sense for them to become the main sponser be good to see matt Jackson back he certainly impressed me later on in the year and was very consistent too.

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From current thinking on other forums looks like united autosport wont be back so that frees up 2 entries I have a feeling 888 wont be back or will field a 2nd mg alongside marc hynes as a privateer entry so that frees up another space also cant see lea wood being back with the avensis.

Good to see another new team in the btcc and supporting the other catorgries as well all we need is more numbers in the other series to make the support package more attractive.

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Stuart Thompson said:

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From current thinking on other forums looks like united autosport wont be back so that frees up 2 entries I have a feeling 888 wont be back or will field a 2nd mg alongside marc hynes as a privateer entry so that frees up another space also cant see lea wood being back with the avensis.

Good to see another new team in the btcc and supporting the other catorgries as well all we need is more numbers in the other series to make the support package more attractive.

It does seem that 888 are taking GT3 more seriously next year with an entry in the Dubai 24hrs etc, so maybe taking less interest in BTCC.

That's what im thinking tbh they will have 1 car for marc hynes but tordoff looks to be of to go gt racing and plato looks like hes off to another team as well so they may just do what they did in 2010 and run 2 of the mgs independently the other one would be good for tom ingram.

Plato is a strange one where will he go, motorbase maybe if they build a bmw3 series as he wanted a rwd car to compete with turks, cant see him being at wsr, Honda no way, so motorbase is the only top team left.
Going to be a rather intresting off season.

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DanielSan said:

There will be a BTCC champion driving for 888 next year...

Interesting day so tordoff is one of the drivers with wsr, turks is now a free man. New driver line up at mg loads of rumors flying around that Jordan could be joining 888 taking his sponsers with him he also has links to them, gio much success with 888 cant see him returning with motorbase.

Where will plato go wsr is highly likely, but could he be bringing in a new team like 2004 with seat and 2009 with rml/chevorlet maybe he has something in the bag like that.

Honda even though have announced going to the new type r believe neal has been confirmed but no news on shedden.

Cant wait for the season to kick off again.

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DanielSan said:

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Interesting day so tordoff is one of the drivers with wsr, turks is now a free man. New driver line up at mg loads of rumors flying around that Jordan could be joining 888 taking his sponsers with him he also has links to them, gio much success with 888 cant see him returning with motorbase.

Where will plato go wsr is highly likely, but could he be bringing in a new team like 2004 with seat and 2009 with rml/chevorlet maybe he has something in the bag like that.

Honda even though have announced going to the new type r believe neal has been confirmed but no news on shedden.

Cant wait for the season to kick off again.

Jordan to 888 is more than just a rumour.... Apparently

Interesting so pirtek sponsorship and red bull to 888 which if im right 888 in ausie v8 are also red bull sponsored. Would love to see either tom ingram or gio at 888 too.

So where does this leave plato, I honestly think he will be in a new team/car, motorbase cant see it myself nor wsr.

Also turks his engineer I believe has gone to bmr so could be a move there for turks unless he stays goes back to wsr.

All in an interesting off season.