Final round of European LM Series Estoril: 3 min penalty
Discussion
.......for spinning the wheels exiting the pit!
What on earth is that all about?
In my view, as a spectator, there should be bonus points awarded.
Surely it can't be so dangerous as to incur such a draconian punishment? And also potentially ruin the outcome of a good close race.
I love to see plenty of nice No.11's, it adds to the spectacle.
What do you think?
What on earth is that all about? In my view, as a spectator, there should be bonus points awarded.
Surely it can't be so dangerous as to incur such a draconian punishment? And also potentially ruin the outcome of a good close race.
I love to see plenty of nice No.11's, it adds to the spectacle.
What do you think?
Edited by glenrobbo on Monday 20th October 23:29
andy97 said:
Spinning the wheels in the pit lane means, according to the Clerks of the Course that I know, that the car is not under complete control and is considered dangerous. The car could "step out" and pit lane personnel could be injured.
Well that's just b
cksCornering on the limit is dangerous
Braking at the last split second is dangerous
Overtaking off-line on the marbles is dangerous
Racing on a wet/ damp track is dangerous
The speed differential between the various classes is dangerous
Motor Racing is dangerous for Heaven's sake.
That's what they tell you on the signs as you enter, and it's also on the signs around the circuits, and on your admission ticket.
That's why we all enjoy it, spectator or driver alike.
Without that element of risk, the spice of danger, that adrenaline rush, there would be no point, it would all be too boring.
It's this kind of nannying that spoils our sport.
Did you watch the Bathurst 1000 at the weekend?
Now THAT'S MOTOR RACING!
PW said:
It's a statement of unavoidable fact, not an excuse to put lives at risk. People who are involved in motorsport expect to go home in one piece, and great care is taken over safety.
It's ACO rules - they govern the 24hrs, which has a very busy pit lane with a lot of people around, who are getting very tired towards the end of a 24hr race and may not be able to register or avoid a car heading towards them with the rears lit up. It's unnecessary to spin the wheels; it is an easy risk to eliminate.
Don't like it - go to a race and tell the mechanics and pit crews that you think their safety should take a back seat to your enjoyment and they should change the rules.
The prospect of seeing people injured or killed is not what gets me to tune into "our sport".
A fair point well made, and I respect that. It's ACO rules - they govern the 24hrs, which has a very busy pit lane with a lot of people around, who are getting very tired towards the end of a 24hr race and may not be able to register or avoid a car heading towards them with the rears lit up. It's unnecessary to spin the wheels; it is an easy risk to eliminate.
Don't like it - go to a race and tell the mechanics and pit crews that you think their safety should take a back seat to your enjoyment and they should change the rules.
The prospect of seeing people injured or killed is not what gets me to tune into "our sport".
I have no desire to witness injury or worse, but the penalty still seems rather draconian in my view, potentially ruining a good race for all. ( Exept perhaps the ACO ).
It's just so exciting watching a hotly contended race with drivers taking their cars right to the limit.
A race environment that is 100% safe would, I think, also be 100% boring.
What's the next safety innovation?
Speed cameras along the main straight?
All spectator enclosures to be at least 400 metres from the trackside?
All cars to have an automatic cut-out which is activated if they exceed what is deemed to be a safe cornering speed?
PW said:
glenrobbo said:
I have no desire to witness injury or worse
A race environment that is 100% safe would, I think, also be 100% boring.
The two statements are exclusive - wanting less than 100% safe means, by definition, you want a chance someone is hurt.A race environment that is 100% safe would, I think, also be 100% boring.
As it stands it isn't 100% safe, and can never be 100% safe. Is that really not enough?
glenrobbo said:
It's just so exciting watching a hotly contended race with drivers taking their cars right to the limit.
Yes, it is; that's why I watch it.I enjoy motor racing for the same reason I enjoy tandem paragliding from the summit of a 6000ft mountain in Turkey each year. It's the adrenaline thing I guess. Not because I want to be killed or injured. I know it's dangerous, and several people come to grief each season, but for me the thrill is worth it.
Spectating at motorsport events is for me a vacarious pleasure, I would love to be in the cars myself, but alas I am a poor man and so I have to content myself by admiring the skills of others, either trackside, or via onboard coverage.
I have lapped the 'Ring, I have been flat out through Radillon ( Eau Rouge ), I have had the odd UK circuit experience when funds have permitted.
But never have I wished to witness or experience a serious accident.
That's for ghouls.
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