Not Scotland. Not even Wales
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Red Devil said:
I had a bit of difficulty finding the location of the first video until I twigged it was wrongly captioned. 
It should be the C1311 (Puente de Montañana to Tremp). They pass this sign @2:19 - https://goo.gl/maps/0PSdl
The second one is the L511 (Isona to Coll de Nargó). They pass this sign @1:34 - https://goo.gl/maps/spGyK
The surface looks superb. Makes a lot of UK roads look like farm tracks in comparison.
heebeegeetee said:
I wouldn't totally agree with that, you can find some similar stuff in Highlands if you know where and when's best. Weather's worse of course, scenery much better imo.
I think more to the point though, and something that people are missing, is that within an easy and comfortable day's drive of Calais, France is chock full of this stuff, countless miles of it. Again, with better scenery overall too imo. I think when the location is consistently hotter, the scenery gets bland or monochrome imvho.
I think more to the point though, and something that people are missing, is that within an easy and comfortable day's drive of Calais, France is chock full of this stuff, countless miles of it. Again, with better scenery overall too imo. I think when the location is consistently hotter, the scenery gets bland or monochrome imvho.
heebeegeetee said:
heebeegeetee said:
True, but as I said, you don't even need to go that far. Just a comfortable and relaxed days drive from Calais (6-8 hours) and you're on the doorstep of thousands of miles of empty and wonderful roads. You can start from Nancy and then take in Vosges, Jura and poss Alsace en route to Alps. Or Annecy, which is beautiful and Mont Blanc etc is just down the road. Or Lyon, which is a great city in itself and has wondrous roads south of. Or zip straight down the centre of France to the large area west of Valence, and use the great roads used in countless Monte Carlo rallies, past and present.
Slowly but surely I'm working my way round to quite a lot of Europe by now (haven't done the Dolomites though). We've had some holidays in Northern Spain and have done a good bit of Pyrenees, (still a fair bit to do though) but I still think France is my favourite.
Having said that, I love Scotland. I've had many fantastic drives up there, had a great break with some mate last year and had a hoot. The single tracks are not proper hooning roads to be fair, but they have their own elements of interest. I've found myself on many normal width roads, utterly deserted and wonderful scenery. I'd go to Scotland at the drop of a hat at every opportunity.
I was a little unsure of what you meant in your first response when you seemed to be saying that roads were better in Europe but scenery was better in Scotland because it was colder and wetter.Slowly but surely I'm working my way round to quite a lot of Europe by now (haven't done the Dolomites though). We've had some holidays in Northern Spain and have done a good bit of Pyrenees, (still a fair bit to do though) but I still think France is my favourite.
Having said that, I love Scotland. I've had many fantastic drives up there, had a great break with some mate last year and had a hoot. The single tracks are not proper hooning roads to be fair, but they have their own elements of interest. I've found myself on many normal width roads, utterly deserted and wonderful scenery. I'd go to Scotland at the drop of a hat at every opportunity.
We have done 267 miles today over what is probably the most unexciting part of our trip but hot weather or not I would put the scenery pretty high up. Tomorrow, we're into proper green Spain and up to Oviedo. Another 200 mile day and I would suggest that the roads will be much better than anything Scotland or Wales could ever boast about and so to the scenery.
I agree with you about Europe from Calais. Many good roads much closer than the areas you suggest.
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