19 y/o with an S60 T5 - my car history and a belated intro..

19 y/o with an S60 T5 - my car history and a belated intro..

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Synchromesh

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Hello Pistonheadees wavey

Having posted on these boards for 20 months now and never got round to it, it seems like time I introduced myself, and bored you all with my short and not-very-exciting car history.

As my 17th birthday approached, I knew a car search was the order of the day. Determined not to either follow the crowd or be raped by the insurance companies, I decided to go down the classic route. I'd always had a soft spot for the original mini, so it was with the Issigonis creation in mind I went to the local auction house, only for a very nice British Racing Green late-model Cooper escape my grasp as the successful bidder walked away £3000 lighter. The search then brought me to Oxfordshire, where a Tahiti blue '98 MPI sat on the drive of an ex-coppper's house. Owned my his elderly mother since it was 3 years old, it been kept in a dry carport and had accrued only 20something thousand miles in it's 12 year life. A short test drive was completed, the right noises were made by myself and my father, and a deal was done. £2300 lighter we drove away in S466 KBL - my first car. The next two months of being 16 were pain and anguish while I waited for the big day. With the car cosily tucked away in my grandmother's garage, lusting and polishing were all I could do. No sooner had my birthday come than I had passed my test. My motoring journey had begun.


Mini front by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Mini back by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Mini interior by jlewisbarned, on Flickr

It was one day while learning to drive that all of a sudden the car just wouldn't go into gear. With my suedo instructor of a father telling me I was doing it all wrong, we swapped places. Admitting the fault was not in fact that of chap at the wheel, he limped it in to the nearest garage for a clutch master cylinder. The only other mechanical failure suffered in my ownership was a blowing exhaust. With a mini club member and friendly mechanic offering me a "DTM" pipe for a fraction of the cost of a new standard exhaust, the centrally-exiting twin upswept pipes were installed. The pops on the overrun never failed to paste a smile to my face, although the monotonous groan soon grew tiresome. So back to a standard exhaust it was.

Despite being the standard car and not the Cooper, it was pulled by an equally (un)potent version of the venerable A-series. Multi-point injection it may have had (in the name of emissions standards), but 63 ponies was all it could muster. Mind you, with a weight of little more than half a tonne, it wasn't unbearably slow, while handling was sharp and communicative, if lacking in outright grip. Understeer was it's default, although my first experience of lift-off oversteeer in this car is one I'll never forget.


Mini cornering 1 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Mini cornering 2 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Snow covered mini by jlewisbarned, on Flickr

Despite plans for some new wheels and a pair of racing bucket seats, the Pepperpots and 'unique' interior remained. I couldn't bring myself to ruin the unmolested originality of the car (down the the 'Kernahams of Whitney' dealer sticker in the back window) so the mods ended with a chrome GB badge and some new floor mats.

With family duties and the impending rust situation on scuttle becoming apparent, it was time to say bye to S466. Sold for £2800, the profit was enough to cover my maintenance over the ownership period.


Spot S466 KBL... by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


MiniWorld Action Day 2010 at Castle Combe 1 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


MiniWorld Action Day 2010 at Castle Combe 2 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr

My father being a VW enthusiast since long before I arrived I the scene, I was led towards getting one of Wolfsburg's finest. For insurance reasons, a 9n (02-05) model Polo proved a suitable choice, with the 100bhp 1.4 16v falling into just group 6. With the illusive package of said 16v model, 5 door, silver and a low mileage desired, a potential candidate was found, with the small matter of it being just 300 miles away. A one way flight to Newcastle was booked and I was £4000 poorer, but the proud owner of NK53 YZH.

The only job that needed to be done was to refurbish the wheels, but using some man-maths PH would be proud of, the decision was made to get some new boots. In my opinion, the BBS Montreal II alloys gave the car a much more focused look, although to the noticeable detriment of ride quality. Other than a PH sticker, the mods did stop here though.


Polo on drive 1 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Polo by Canary Wharf by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Polo under crane by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Polo interior by jlewisbarned, on Flickr

Hardly the pinnacle of driver excitement I know, but it had a nice little 16v engine which scraped into triple figure BHP numbers by the skin of it's revvy little teeth. Yes, it lacked the torque to pull the skin of your proverbial Ambrosia, but if you were prepared to keep it buzzing, it was certainly responsive and made a nice if rather muted sound. In the handling department, it hardly set the world alight, but it was safe enough to prevent a (rather exuberent at times) 17/18 year old from putting it through a hedge backwards. Now we'll go on to what normal people look for in cars. It rode very well (much better than my father's Touran) and as it had the 'sport' suspension it didn't want to go round corners on it's door handles. Next up, the interior. Well it's the only German car in it's class and that speaks volumes (whatever the nay-sayers say) when in comes to interior quality. It had Mercedes style headlights but the similarities didn't end there. They ended with the feeling of quality and 'weight' to the car. Anyone who's jumped between one of these and a Fiesta will know what I mean.

NK53 stood up to the abuse of holidays in both Devon and Cornwall (from my hometown of Bristol), 4-up with mates including tents, camping paraphernalia and copious quantities of beer. Volunteering as the driver on a family holiday to Suffolk and with numerous blasts to the South East, I soon racked up the miles. Bought at just 42,000 miles but sold at over 60,000, over the period of 20 months NK53 suffered just one failure - an engine temperature sensor at the cost of £180. Running costs were less Automobile Association and more Alcoholics Anonymous then, as it did drink the stuff at around 30mpg in town and 40 to the gallon on the highway. Overall though, a good car - if you not interested in cars. Sold in January for £3500.


Light painted Polo by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Polo by suspension bridge by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Polo in city centre by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Polo against building by jlewisbarned, on Flickr

And onto today's purchase, a 2003 Volvo S60 T5 SE. After pondering on my choices for the Polo's replacement for a good few months, including a 'What Car?' thread, a decision was made. With the simple criteria of 4/5 doors, a decent amount of poke, and a budget of three bags of sand, options such as a Saab 9-3 Aero, BMW E46 330i and VW Golf Mk4 GTi 1.8T were all considered. But when a friend (stand up S. Gonzales Esq.) mentioned he was on the look out for something different, it all came together. £2750 later, and as of today, I'm the proud owner of a well looked after, 78,000 mile, 250 horsepower Volvo.


Volvo panning by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


Photo by Tony Gilbert.

In my opinion it looks superb, in an understated kind of way. The design brief was to make a 4-door coupe, but it takes thought to see the subtle touches that give it it's cohesive but purposeful stance. Sitting on the optional 18" Nebula wheels, and with the rare body coloured bumpers, the dark blue gives it a sophisticated, sporty look (quite unlike it's owner). Inside the black leather is set off my a light headlining. Where this car excels though, is where it matters; under the bonnet. The 2.3 T5 5-cylinder turbo engine emits a sonorous 5-pot burble on idle, which builds nicely with revs, bringing with a smooth, linear power delivery. Economical it is not (just read threads about the identically engined Focus ST if you want proof), retuning 25mpg on it's 50-mile inaugural hoon. Elsewhere I'd describe the car as Pink Floyd did - 'Comfortably Numb'. Although the ride is considerably firmer than one would expect of a Volvo (think somewhere between an SE and M-sport spec BMW, much to the benefit of handling), feedback through the light steering is non-existent.

After just one day of ownership though, there's little else to report, so I'll try and keep this thread updated with any news. I'll also get some proper pics of it in the next few weeks and update this post with them. As a 19 year old with such a powerful car, I better be careful not to put it on its roof then. With that in mind, but without wanting to tempt fate, perhaps it's fitting that Volvo is Latin for 'I roll'...

Edited by Synchromesh on Monday 27th February 08:35

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Stu R said:
Fine choices, love the mini smile
Thanks. I did too!

Baryonyx said:
The S60 T5 is a great car, can't see much mention of it there though.
It is indeed. I've re-written a little on it as it was lost when I posted.

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y2blade said:
Fantastic cars yes Big Volvo Fan here btw (loved my old T5 and now T6 and D5)
can't wait to see pics of it smile
Pictures are uploaded now.

Chunkychucky said:
Nice Volvo chap smile
Thanks thumbup

Spoof said:
Great car the T5, I loved my R. Congratulations.

Definitely not an identical engine to the ST though.
I know the engine isn't identical to the ST's - it was written in haste. The ST is a 2.5 and with a lower pressure turbo, but they're definitely from the same family.

rednotdead said:
I ran one of these for a couple of years and found it to be incredibly sensitive to tyre choice. I found it best on Goodyear Eagle's but they didn't last long on the front! It was one of the comfiest cars I've ever had though and the Dolby pro-Logic is awesome for car hi-fi.
The Pro-Logic is indeed a fantastic hi-fi system, almost as good as my home setup in fact! At some point it'll need new fronts, so I'll bear this in mind.

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Biker's Nemesis said:
Nice choice mate.
Thanks

petrolveins said:
Brilliant choice, was taken around Castle Coombe in a stripped out ex-police one, my god it was impressive. Was in the same boat as you then. 19yo, not sure what car I wanted but wanted good poke and reasonable space. I ended up with the E46 330i. But doesn't stop looking at the Volvos with lust. Can I also just say those wheels are just perfect, suit the car so well.
Love your 330i by the way. As I mentioned, the 330i was a car I was considering and certainly would have pipped the Volvo in the handling stakes, but I felt I could get a better condition, lower mileage Volvo for the money, and I quite like the Q-car-ness of it too.

supraboy said:
love it, been thinking of getting a estate in that shape (im also 19). Do you mind if i ask how much the insurance is on one of those for someone our age smile
The estate in this shape - that would be the V70. The insurance was £1600 with two years NCB. It's with Elephant.

UberMeister said:
Nice write up thumbup

I think 19 is the age where things can get a bit more exciting with regards car choice, certainly was the case with me. It's a slippery slope now as you realise what more and more powerful cars you can insure. jester
Glad you liked the words. Haha, don't tempt me...

GWMD said:
Very nice choice. Can't go wrong with a T5 offering smile
Muchas gracias

S. Gonzales Esq. said:
The S60 steering isn't quite as numb as it first appears, but it is incredibly light. Once you've recalibrated your ideas of how much effort is required to turn the wheels you'll start to pick up on a bit more information. It's not the last word in tactility, but there's a bit more there when you know what to look for.

Also, the faster you go, the more you can feel whats going on - damp days can provide a less licence-threatening route to this experience.

Hope you enjoy the car!
I'll work on that Tony, I already find myself holding the wheel much more lightly than I did with the Polo, just need to feel the force now driving

okie592 said:
i love these s60s! Im 19 aswell and on the hunt for something diffrent, whats insurance like for you?
Thanks. See above.

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BorkFactor said:
You absolute bd, I had discounted a T5 in favour of an E36 but now I am looking at them again!! hehe

I am 19 as well, the insurance is remarkably reasonable on them. Hope you like it, I need to get a proper go in one smile
E36 vs T5 depends weather you want a comfortable Q-car, or something with a bit more finesse and a 'sportier' image. Also don't be put off the the T5's slow 0-60 compared to the BMW's - the T5s come alive in the higher gears when you can get the power down. The insurance aint bad for what it is so go test drive one.

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MiniMadMike said:
Ha! Kernahan's of Witney! My old chap used to get his Caterham serviced there! Still there now as a Ford dealer I believe, was a rover dealer before that.

Love the Mini mate, really nice that you kept it original. Other cars are nice too, although theyve got nothing on that mini biggrin
Yes, it would have been a Rover dealer in 1998 when my Mini was bought from there. Glad you like it too.



60 hours into my ownership period now and have this evening just done my first long slog. 2h15 in total, with about 45 mins of that pootling through Bristol and London - the rest of the time was spent at a GPS verified 70mph. Not only did I get out feeling more relaxed than when I started, but I got a faintly staggering (if the computer is to be believed) 36.7mpg. For a point of comparison, on the exact same journey (at the same speed) the Polo got exactly 40 to the gallon, and I'd have been too buzzed out to go straight down the pub afterwards. Being at 2500 revs rather 3500 as it was in the Polo, made it far less thrashy, and coupled with the sumptuous seats, top notch sound and superior insulation, the car soaked up the miles like they weren't there. I also noticed a definite change in how other road users treated me - either they see a dark S60 going exactly 70 and assume I'm BiB, or it's just that bigger cars get more respect. Perhaps someone could fill me in on this.

Radio 2 on the stereo of my vast Volvo - who said I was prematurely middle aged for a 19 year old...

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ambuletz said:
the mini looks charming. bit of a shame you didn't take more pictures of it.
Thanks. I did take more but thought the nine I posted would be enough to satisfy the curiosity of most people.

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StottyZr said:
Somebody got an A* in English winklaugh

Lovely cars, I like how you've steadily build up on power/size. I'm also very impressed at how little these cars have actually cost, as you don't seem to loose much in depreciation. (and the obvious apreciating Mini)

Any plans for the future? Volvo for 2years followed by something even meatier at 21? scratchchin
Actually I only got an A in GCSE Eng Lang, but that's only because I wasn't allowed to write exclusively about cars wink One of my coursework pieces was published as a letter in Evo magazine though so who am I to complain...

So far my motoring has cost me exactly nothing in depreciation (gained £500 on the Mini, and lost £500 on the Polo) - not bad for two years driving. I think I'll loose a bit on the Volvo though.

Plan for the future is to keep the Volvo standard, but just get it to top condition, in fact, I'm detailing it at the weekend, weather permitting. I'll then keep it at least until October, depending how I get along with it.

For me, half the fun is deciding what to get next (and judging by the number of What Car threads on these boards, I'm not the only one) but I'm thinking of perhaps a Clio 182 as a final tribute to FWD before I make the switch to a 'pusher', at which point I'll more than likely go for an MX-5. Once I've got a bit of capital though, I'd love a Caterham, and I'm prepared to run it as an only car if it means I can get my mitts on it - a slight change from an S60 I must admit, but my tastes are eclectic.

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Garett said:
Nice S60 cool They are good looking cars! I have a D5 and on 16" rims doesn't look quite as good.
They are indeed. As I said it's the subtle details which do it, like the way the silhouette of the rear light cluster echoes and emphasises the wide haunches that give it such a planted look. Fantastic motorway cruisers too, in my opinion more so than an E92 3-series, which is a more modern car.

You might be able to help me on my other thread .

Stedman said:
Welcome to the club!
Yes, in fact there was another 19 year old PHer who had a fast Volvo too - a stripped out 850 T5 if I remember right.

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wackojacko said:
Yep that was me I had just turned 18 when I had that, stripped and caged 855 T5 on GAZ Gold suspension etc.
Only had it for around a month and a half due to lack of space and other projects, shouldn't have sold it though. Bought an S3 as a daily driver (18 now) which is horrendously boring in comparison.
Hello wavey

That S3 is a nice car, but has nothing on your 855. That car was mental, and I loved it all the more for it. Why didn't you sell your Astra instead?

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Marlin45 said:
Lovely prose OP clap
Thanks thumbup

Stedman said:
As you're near Bristol, if you need ANY work done please visit MRG (main volvo dealer) in Chippenham. There are a few locals near by with VERY nice (and quick!) 850s and S60Rs. Get onto t5d5.org . Have a look around, ask a few questions and bring some banter with you too smile
Getting the Cambelt and water pump done tomorrow at a local VW/Audi specialist independent. Only reason is that they were fantastic with me when I had my Polo, and they're local so can pop it in before work and collect it and the end of the day. Chippy would be a day trip, and without wishing to offend any residents of the hallowed town, hardly the most inspiring place to spend a day. What makes MRG better than a trusted independent anyway?

Would be good to check out the local Volvo 'scene' (how oxymoronic does that sound?) so I'll pop over, with the banter hat duly donned.

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Stedman said:
I find the chaps there are excellent. I've called many many a time asking for advice and not once have I felt like i've been a burden or a PITA. They don't mess you around. Great customer service and very knowledgable (i.e-they look past the Volvo handbook, unlike other dealers).
I'll give them a try next time it needs a service then.

Petrolize said:
The photographs of the Polo look like they could be in a brochure! Great write up smile
Thanks. Glad you like both the words and the pics. As I said, I'll get some pics of the S60 as soon as it's clean.

Treated the leather today and it worked wonders, looking (and smelling for that matter) much fresher inside. Off to London again on Tuesday, then to Donington for a track day on Sunday so I'll wait 'til I've done the motorway slogs before I get started on the exterior. Plan is to give it a good wash, then go over with the clay bar to get the more stubborn dirt and tar off, then a good polish with the random orbital before sealing with some wax. Did the same with the Polo and it came up well, so good results are in the offing for Mr. T5.

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Photo by Tony Gilbert.

Another pic to keep you all entertained while you wait for my own pics. Shamelessly stolen from the previously owner.

P.S shoutTony, time to update your PH garage...

ETA: When I say 'Shamelessly stolen from the previously owner', I'm talking about the photo, and not the car laugh

Edited by Synchromesh on Tuesday 6th March 08:47

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In other news the Volvo was treated to a new cam belt and water pump today, and given a check over and the green light by the mechanic and proprietor of my local trusted garage. £280 later I now have a little more peace of mind, but not looking forward to the VED bill later this month...

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Played M4 MLM vigilante duties again tonight. Only 35mpg this time but traffic was quite bad in Hammersmith, and I was doing a couple of mph more on the motorway. Still, not bad for a car of the weight and power.

Also, I've concluded that the S60 has most capacious washer reservoir...in the world. Sorry if this is sounding a bit WhatCar mag but I must have put at least 5 litters in it, and it wasn't even empty to start with.

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Made a little vid of the car in action today. Hope you like it...driving

http://youtu.be/QPSb5VNaFO0


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jakeharvey63 said:
Video looks good! What did you use to film it? Good choice of car! I have recently become a big fan of Volos and having a focus ST currently, know how good the 5 cylinder engine sounds!
Thanks on both counts. Filmed with a GoPro HD and edited in FCPX

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petrolveins said:
You look far too young to be driving that! Least I look older than my years, been pulled and asked if "Dad knows you've borrowed his motor" yet? hehe
Yes I'm sure the sight of a 19 year old in an S60 is quite an incongruous one, but not been pulled over yet. I did get someone cut me up on the way into a petrol station and then ask if I was enjoying daddy's car. Seeing he'd just stepped out of an Audi Q5, his jealous remark didn't warrant much in the way on of an eloquent response on my behalf, and I left him to get on with his anodyne, prosaic, diesel-fueled life. You go and enjoy the epitome of excitement in your life that is the 2.0 TDI, I'll keep the T5 thank you very much.

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Took the T5 to Donington Park for a track day yesterday. Unsurprisingly, it wasn't the Volvo we took round, but a hired Tiger R6. However, despite not being the pinnacle of track day toyishness, it is a fine cruiser, and munched up the 260 mile round trip, carrying myself, two friends and a boot full of clobber, with aplomb.


S60 at Donington 1 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr


S60 at Donington 2 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr

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A small update:

Went through a car-wash last Saturday which took the headlight wipers off (which the more observant will have noticed are missing from the Donington photo). Wipers have been retrieved but not the attachments that hold them in place. These can only be bought with the arms at 35 per side, so will have to claim from the car-wash company for them.

Today, engine was idling so quietly I tried to start it while it was running. Cue nasty noise from started motor (but no damage) and a reminder to look at the rev counter and check the engine isn't running before I turn the key in future.

On a handling based note, I've concluded that although you can't bring the tail in to play in any meaningful way, it's certainly more lively and adjustable than the Polo. Now there's a turn up for the book.

Edited by Synchromesh on Sunday 18th March 10:14