Synchromesh's £350 BMW 328i saloon
Discussion
With today's announcement of yet another new iPod-phone, I thought I'd take the time to share what I've just picked up. Not only has it cost me less than Apple's latest shiny thing, it's also better at going sideways…
The romantic notion was of a car that could whisk four passengers in style and comfort across continent, do a few fast laps of Nurburgring, then schlep home again to the backdrop of a 6-pot as silky as the Channel Islands' thickest double cream.
In reality, the replacement for my MR2 needed to be able to plod up and down the M4 all winter and carry a few mates from time to time, without losing the fun-factor and trackability of a naturally aspirated RWD sports car. The E36 328i saloon seemed like the right tool for the job.
The first one we looked at had a fresh MOT and was up for £850. Looking straight and rust-free I thought I'd struck lucky until, after going to test drive it, the alternator caught fire! A quick call back a few days later with a silly low-ball offer of £300, and a deal was struck at £350.
With the car safely recovered to my driveway, and an alternator sourced from (the delight that is) a west London scrapyard, the car was bought back to life.
Total spend so far:
So by my reckoning, that's less than mobile phone…
All that remains now is to get it taxed and insured!
IMG_0906 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr
Loading up and..
IMG_0918 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr
...off we go.
IMG_0921 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr
The offending part now replaced
IMG_0919 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr
The mini-fleet
The romantic notion was of a car that could whisk four passengers in style and comfort across continent, do a few fast laps of Nurburgring, then schlep home again to the backdrop of a 6-pot as silky as the Channel Islands' thickest double cream.
In reality, the replacement for my MR2 needed to be able to plod up and down the M4 all winter and carry a few mates from time to time, without losing the fun-factor and trackability of a naturally aspirated RWD sports car. The E36 328i saloon seemed like the right tool for the job.
The first one we looked at had a fresh MOT and was up for £850. Looking straight and rust-free I thought I'd struck lucky until, after going to test drive it, the alternator caught fire! A quick call back a few days later with a silly low-ball offer of £300, and a deal was struck at £350.
With the car safely recovered to my driveway, and an alternator sourced from (the delight that is) a west London scrapyard, the car was bought back to life.
Total spend so far:
Item | Cost (£) |
---|---|
1997 BMW 328i saloon | 350 |
Recovery | 69 |
Second-hand alternator | 40 |
New battery | 71 |
Total | 530 |
So by my reckoning, that's less than mobile phone…
All that remains now is to get it taxed and insured!
IMG_0906 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr
Loading up and..
IMG_0918 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr
...off we go.
IMG_0921 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr
The offending part now replaced
IMG_0919 by jlewisbarned, on Flickr
The mini-fleet
TrackTalentUK said:
Really like it Synchromesh, look forward to more photos and details .
Thanks fella. Unfortunately the only paperwork that came with the car was the MOT certificate and the V5. The vendor's story was that the car used to belong to his son's girlfriend's father, who had it as his car before becoming a driving instructor. He then had a learner car, so with no need for the BMW, left it sitting in the garden for a few years. The vendor took it off his hands (I expect either for free or scrap value), put it straight in for an MOT and stuck it up for sale on AutoTrader. I suspect he didn't make as much as he was hoping; he must have spent £100 for the MOT and AT ad alone.
Once I get it taxed, insured and on the road I'll get some proper photos.
Layacable said:
Dalto123 said:
Synchromesh said:
Unfortunately the only paperwork that came with the car was the MOT certificate and the V5.
No service history then? Joe: AFAIK this one doesn't have the LSD as there's a TC button. Might fit one at a later date though.
Phil, when you think about it a service is just an oil and filer change, which is necessary to stop accelerated wear of the engine's internals. How often, these days, do you here of cars being written off for this symptom? In my experience, most cars get beyond economic repair due to rust (becoming less of a factor) or electric issues (becoming more of a factor). I'm not saying service history isn't important, but it only mitigates one sort of failure.
james_gt3rs said:
How does it compare to the MR2?
Having had more of a chance to put some miles on it, the answer, in a word, is that it feels like a bus! That's not meant to be as much of criticism as it sounds though - this is a four-door family saloon on SE spec suspension and 50-profile tyres. Coming straight out of a proper little sports car of course it feels soft, while the steering is significantly slower and less direct. In general though, the car is well balanced and, given time to settle, hangs on harder than it has any right to. The upside of the soft suspension is that, well, it's soft and squishy and comfortable on poor surfaces. I'm considering putting some new M-tech items on it in due course, and maybe the Z3 rack to quicken up the steering.Moving on from dynamics, I've now done about 400 miles, and without hitch. A few niggles have come out of woodwork though; on a few occasions I've heard a clonk when going over the most vicious sleeping policemen, the fuel gauge always reads empty, and the OBC keeps telling me the brake lights are out, when they're not. The car is, however, booked in with Redish Motorsport in Bristol so hopefully we can get these bits sorted.
I'll also need some new discs and pads in the not-too-distant future. I'll probably stick to OEM discs but I do plan to do a few track days before the year's out so am considering uprated pads. What would you guys go for?
WeirdNeville said:
lots of useful stuff
Thanks Weird one, I'll look into those fixes soon.Thought I'd also mention how pleasantly surprised I am with the MPG this car returns. If the OBC is to be believed, I just got 38.2 mpg on a trip from seeing Level 42 at the O2 arena to rural Buckinghamshire. I'll do the readout calibration soon, but if I'm getting anything close to that, I'm a very happy man.
It's been a month now, so time for an update. Firstly, I've done almost 2500 miles in the last four weeks, and all without incident. Actually, there was one incident, but that was down to me rather than the car, but more of than in a minute.
- One of the first things I did was have the car checked out by Redish Motorsport in Bristol. They gave the car the thumbs up, commenting specifically on the lack of rust or oil leaks. They did, however, confirm what was on the MOT report, and suggested I changed the brakes. They also said some of the bushes would need doing, but for now that'll take a much lower priority on my list of jobs.
- So, picked up a full set of discs, pads, sensors, and ATE Superblue fluid for £180 from ECP, and had my local garage sort it out. Brakes are one area I'd definitely rather leave to the professionals, even if it cost £120 in labour.
- Went to Kwik-Fit to get the AC re-gassed. When I had this done on the MR2 it only worked for about a day, but they happily refunded me, so with nothing to loose I gave it go again. This time, however, it's been rather more sucessful, and a week and a half later it's still blowing ice cold. Shame the weather's just taken a turn for the worse.
- With the tyres looking a little low on rubber, and a track day imminent, I picked up a set of 'Style 27' alloys. They may only be 15", but they ride very well and shod on four brand new tyres, for £65 I can't complain. OK so the tyres are 'Acceleras' (yes I've read the thread on them), but relegated to the role of track day rubber they'll be fine, and hopefully the hard compound should last longer than any premium brands.
- Unfortunately, I'm now having to use these as my daily wheels. The day after I picked them up, and with the car still wearing its origional 16" alloys, I hit a rock on lying in the carriageway on the A4069 (the one in Wales with that hairpin). First time I've ever buckled I wheel, but I did it in style, making both nearside rims rather less round. Only the rear was leaking air so we got the spare on and headed home. Amazingly the front held pressure all the way, so someone must've been on our side that day!
- Yesterday was KAN's first track outing, with an afternoon an Keevil. As suspected, the car felt totally unsuitable for track work, but was hilarious fun at the same time. The Acceleras weren't as bad (in the dry) as the internet said they would be, and the relative lack of grip made it predictable and progressive. With no LSD it's all too keen to spin an inside wheel under power, but I had a lot of fun trail braking into bends, pitching the car sideways then getting straight onto the power to hold it for as long as I could. Video at the bottom if this post.
- Today was my first time with said ditchfinders in the wet, and this is the first time I've driven a RWD car with ditchfinders on the rear. Roundabouts were entertaining, but reminded me I need to be cautious on higher speed corners where I might not have the time or space to deal with the unexpected.
In-car action from Saturday's track day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5QhSCUbYxU
- One of the first things I did was have the car checked out by Redish Motorsport in Bristol. They gave the car the thumbs up, commenting specifically on the lack of rust or oil leaks. They did, however, confirm what was on the MOT report, and suggested I changed the brakes. They also said some of the bushes would need doing, but for now that'll take a much lower priority on my list of jobs.
- So, picked up a full set of discs, pads, sensors, and ATE Superblue fluid for £180 from ECP, and had my local garage sort it out. Brakes are one area I'd definitely rather leave to the professionals, even if it cost £120 in labour.
- Went to Kwik-Fit to get the AC re-gassed. When I had this done on the MR2 it only worked for about a day, but they happily refunded me, so with nothing to loose I gave it go again. This time, however, it's been rather more sucessful, and a week and a half later it's still blowing ice cold. Shame the weather's just taken a turn for the worse.
- With the tyres looking a little low on rubber, and a track day imminent, I picked up a set of 'Style 27' alloys. They may only be 15", but they ride very well and shod on four brand new tyres, for £65 I can't complain. OK so the tyres are 'Acceleras' (yes I've read the thread on them), but relegated to the role of track day rubber they'll be fine, and hopefully the hard compound should last longer than any premium brands.
- Unfortunately, I'm now having to use these as my daily wheels. The day after I picked them up, and with the car still wearing its origional 16" alloys, I hit a rock on lying in the carriageway on the A4069 (the one in Wales with that hairpin). First time I've ever buckled I wheel, but I did it in style, making both nearside rims rather less round. Only the rear was leaking air so we got the spare on and headed home. Amazingly the front held pressure all the way, so someone must've been on our side that day!
- Yesterday was KAN's first track outing, with an afternoon an Keevil. As suspected, the car felt totally unsuitable for track work, but was hilarious fun at the same time. The Acceleras weren't as bad (in the dry) as the internet said they would be, and the relative lack of grip made it predictable and progressive. With no LSD it's all too keen to spin an inside wheel under power, but I had a lot of fun trail braking into bends, pitching the car sideways then getting straight onto the power to hold it for as long as I could. Video at the bottom if this post.
- Today was my first time with said ditchfinders in the wet, and this is the first time I've driven a RWD car with ditchfinders on the rear. Roundabouts were entertaining, but reminded me I need to be cautious on higher speed corners where I might not have the time or space to deal with the unexpected.
In-car action from Saturday's track day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5QhSCUbYxU
Edited by Synchromesh on Tuesday 22 October 19:41
Benbay001 said:
Looks like alot of fun on track.
Some great slides!
Are you missing the MR2?
It was as fun as it looked. I've now gone and booked a further two airfield days to do before the year's out. Need to book Oulton for early next year too. Fancy joining me and introducing the Jag to some track work?Some great slides!
Are you missing the MR2?
I couldn't deny that there are aspects of the MR2 I miss, but the BMW is proving a well-rounded car. Swings and (going sideways round) roundabouts really.
To stop this blog getting too wordy, I've decided to tell this month's entry though the medium of photography
As discussed earlier, KAN came with no history, so it seemed prudent to service it...
Old cabin filter next to the new one
I then did the classic "my first BMW" mod, and sprayed the kidney grill surrounds matt black. Without the chrome, I think it looks more assertive and less bling.
You can see in some of the pictures how the fog lights don't "match". One was full of water and heavily cracked, so the pair have now been replaced (second hand set from ebay - £15).
Finally, I sorted out the fuel gauge by installing a new pump. Unfortunately, it was clear that the connecting wires were starting to corrode, so this necessitated a trip to the local garage to have them re-wired.
Other than these general maintenance tasks, the "E-dirty-6" has been on not one but two track days this month! First, a day up at Bruntingthorpe sliding about with the esteemed car control guru Don Palmer, and latterly at Abingdon, where PHer 'Geekman' came along in his (my old) MR2.
From right to left: current car, previous car, future car
The 3er has also been making friends with some PHer's cars including Dalto123's Skoda, Geekman's Jaaag and Airbrakes' Disco.
Finally, the 328 has coped with, arguably, its most arduous task: transporting five students (none particularly small) and a boot stuffed with their karting clobber to a race at Bayford Meadows in Sittingbourne. I'll admit there were complaints from the middle seat passenger, but 300 miles were covered in 24 hours with no such murmurings from the car. The 'Official karting transport car' (as it was soon dubbed) ate up the miles and barely seemed to feel the weight of its cargo. The three-hour slog home was completed without me ever feeling like I needed to stop for a rest - testimony to the cruising ability of BMW.
The keener eyed will have noticed the 'Brodit Proclip' charging phone cradle mounted into the car in these shots. Brilliant (but not cheap) bit of kit, now very neatly hardwired into the car - cheers for doing that Wackojacko!
As discussed earlier, KAN came with no history, so it seemed prudent to service it...
Old cabin filter next to the new one
I then did the classic "my first BMW" mod, and sprayed the kidney grill surrounds matt black. Without the chrome, I think it looks more assertive and less bling.
You can see in some of the pictures how the fog lights don't "match". One was full of water and heavily cracked, so the pair have now been replaced (second hand set from ebay - £15).
Finally, I sorted out the fuel gauge by installing a new pump. Unfortunately, it was clear that the connecting wires were starting to corrode, so this necessitated a trip to the local garage to have them re-wired.
Other than these general maintenance tasks, the "E-dirty-6" has been on not one but two track days this month! First, a day up at Bruntingthorpe sliding about with the esteemed car control guru Don Palmer, and latterly at Abingdon, where PHer 'Geekman' came along in his (my old) MR2.
From right to left: current car, previous car, future car
The 3er has also been making friends with some PHer's cars including Dalto123's Skoda, Geekman's Jaaag and Airbrakes' Disco.
Finally, the 328 has coped with, arguably, its most arduous task: transporting five students (none particularly small) and a boot stuffed with their karting clobber to a race at Bayford Meadows in Sittingbourne. I'll admit there were complaints from the middle seat passenger, but 300 miles were covered in 24 hours with no such murmurings from the car. The 'Official karting transport car' (as it was soon dubbed) ate up the miles and barely seemed to feel the weight of its cargo. The three-hour slog home was completed without me ever feeling like I needed to stop for a rest - testimony to the cruising ability of BMW.
The keener eyed will have noticed the 'Brodit Proclip' charging phone cradle mounted into the car in these shots. Brilliant (but not cheap) bit of kit, now very neatly hardwired into the car - cheers for doing that Wackojacko!
MagicalTrevor said:
Bit envious that you've got one actually, I'd like to find a good one as a toy.
They're a bit too heavy and a lot too soft for a track toy I would say. Unless you're prepared to strip it out and get some new suspension on it you'd be better off with an MR2 or MX5. I can vouch for the MR2, in particular, working 'out the box'.It's also worth bearing in mind that I've spent £1k on maintenance in the two months I've had it. Having said that, it has been comprehensively serviced, treated to new discs/pads/uprated fluid, and now has no 'issues'.
MagicalTrevor said:
Sounds like you're not keen, I'll take it off your hands for £350
You can funk right off... But really, it's a great all-rounder just, in its standard guise, not a track car. More a comfy baby-barge with a lovely engine, that's acceptable for the occasional foray to the track. I say occasional, I've done two track days in it in the last two months, and have a further four booked!
Coaster94 said:
Looks like your having a great time with the BMW, think I remember seeing your MR2 at Llandow last year, least I think so as it looks like your BUKC aswell! One question I've got to ask though is considering you've spent 1k on maintenance in 2 months (I appreciate some of it is neccessary for track work) would you not have been better off buying a slightly better example that had a few more track based mods completed? Just a thought, although you did get a seriously good deal I must admit
Yes you would've seen the MR2 at Llandow, in fact you might've seen me slipping out for a few cheeky hoons between races - it would've been rude not to with tarmac like that on the doorstep! Are you doing BUKC this coming season too?I'm not that fussed about what I've spent on it. If you take into account that a) it's now worth a lot more than £350 (maybe £1k on a good day) and b) the car is now set up for a good few months of maintenance free driving, then it doesn't look so bad. I've quite enjoyed the process of getting all the niggles sorted and ending up with something that's mechanically as well as structurally tip-top. I'll admit the paint work is rough in places, and for some people the mileage / lack of history would be an issue, but hopefully this'll be a keeper so it's not such a biggie.
Now I'm just pondering whether to sort out the suspension, and if so whether to go for OEM or aftermarket. For cost reasons, I'm leaning towards the latter. Anyone have any views or advice on this?
Coaster94 said:
My point was really in regards to your plans for a European jaunt, but now that she's serviced so probably don't need to worry.
Sure i'll catch you in the new year for BUKC to see the car first hand
No plans at the moment to take the car abroad. We may do Le Mans, but if it all goes ahead the first choice car will be my mate's XJ (as featured in this thread). I definitely need to go back to the 'Ring, but would be tempted to hire one of those Swifts from that Dale bloke who sometimes writes on here - you always have more fun when it's someone else's car! Sure i'll catch you in the new year for BUKC to see the car first hand
Four months since I last updated!? Well, that's probably because it's been quite for uneventful for KAN recently, but I guess that's a good thing.
The odometer has continued to roll round at the usual rate of about 500 miles a week. Most of that has been on the M4 doing the usual schlep but we've also been to some more exciting places…
The tail end of December saw a track day at a very wet Brunters. Great for getting under the skin of the 328i and practicing some high speed drifty stuff in safety, even if I did manage something I've never done on a track day before by spinning out. Twice.
Then to Curborough, where my friends dubbed the E36 the "Curburgring drift taxi". Admittedly, going very sideways four or even five-up was hilarious. Here's some video evidence, but I apologise in advance for the sound - I think some people were driving an RC car in the paddock...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsn7T9Jsrvk
Around this time I fitted a new head unit. Cash converters yet again came up with the goods and I bagged a Kenwood for £35. Not only is the sound quality miles better, but having Bluetooth means I can stream music straight from my phone.
Early Feb saw a visit to Oulton Park, a track I'd been meaning to drive for a long time. While the wet weather refused to dry up, my talent continued to evaporate. Yet again, I spun twice, although the line about running slicks in the wet comes quite early up in the racing driver's book of excuses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUCgOINRIlw
Packed and ready to track
Driving to Oulton the scenic way
Yes, I just did something very pie-key and posted the watermarked photo
And to last week, where the BUKC took us to Glan-y-Gors for Rounds 5 & 6. But nearly as good as the racing itself were the roads, and our hostel in Betws-y-Coed made a great base to explore them. A 'Top Gear' style race against the train from Betwsy to Ffestiniog meant the A470 needed to be tackled apace (of course, the car won), and the evo triangle demanded to be driven twice (once in each direction, naturally).
On the Pen-y Pass, Snowdonia
So it would appear that my spending early on has paid off, as the last few months have been virtually expense free on the car front. It does, however, feel like time to move it on. I tend to have a six month boredom threshold when it comes to cars, and like the Volvo and MR2 that came before, it's time someone else got to have some fun in this. That and there's a LS400 out there with my name on it. I'm in no real rush (that Lexus hasn't made itself known yet), but I'll be putting up an ad for this in the next few weeks. In the meantime, feel free to PM me if you know anyone who might be interested.
The E36 - at home at Maccys as it is anywhere
The odometer has continued to roll round at the usual rate of about 500 miles a week. Most of that has been on the M4 doing the usual schlep but we've also been to some more exciting places…
The tail end of December saw a track day at a very wet Brunters. Great for getting under the skin of the 328i and practicing some high speed drifty stuff in safety, even if I did manage something I've never done on a track day before by spinning out. Twice.
Then to Curborough, where my friends dubbed the E36 the "Curburgring drift taxi". Admittedly, going very sideways four or even five-up was hilarious. Here's some video evidence, but I apologise in advance for the sound - I think some people were driving an RC car in the paddock...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsn7T9Jsrvk
Around this time I fitted a new head unit. Cash converters yet again came up with the goods and I bagged a Kenwood for £35. Not only is the sound quality miles better, but having Bluetooth means I can stream music straight from my phone.
Early Feb saw a visit to Oulton Park, a track I'd been meaning to drive for a long time. While the wet weather refused to dry up, my talent continued to evaporate. Yet again, I spun twice, although the line about running slicks in the wet comes quite early up in the racing driver's book of excuses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUCgOINRIlw
Packed and ready to track
Driving to Oulton the scenic way
Yes, I just did something very pie-key and posted the watermarked photo
And to last week, where the BUKC took us to Glan-y-Gors for Rounds 5 & 6. But nearly as good as the racing itself were the roads, and our hostel in Betws-y-Coed made a great base to explore them. A 'Top Gear' style race against the train from Betwsy to Ffestiniog meant the A470 needed to be tackled apace (of course, the car won), and the evo triangle demanded to be driven twice (once in each direction, naturally).
On the Pen-y Pass, Snowdonia
So it would appear that my spending early on has paid off, as the last few months have been virtually expense free on the car front. It does, however, feel like time to move it on. I tend to have a six month boredom threshold when it comes to cars, and like the Volvo and MR2 that came before, it's time someone else got to have some fun in this. That and there's a LS400 out there with my name on it. I'm in no real rush (that Lexus hasn't made itself known yet), but I'll be putting up an ad for this in the next few weeks. In the meantime, feel free to PM me if you know anyone who might be interested.
The E36 - at home at Maccys as it is anywhere
Edited by Synchromesh on Thursday 27th March 21:05
As of last Sunday, the 328i has found a new home. Enter stage left PH'er McSam who, having seen the car on AutoTrader and recognised it from this thread, decided to come and view it. It was probably one of the most dignified and sociable transactions, but we both had the same figure in mind and in the end £900 quid came my way, while as well as the car itself, I (literally) threw in 2 extra sets of wheels and 5 months tax. It even had half a tank of petrol still in it, although that was more down to my own poor planning. A condition of the sale was that he keeps up a thread here, so we'll keep our eyes peeled.
So, did the car end up being the bargain I first thought it would be? Excluding fuel and insurance, here's what I spent on it over 7 months and 14,442 miles:
So I guess I did end up spending more on it than I originally planned, but then again I got 6 track days out of it, and money went in to offset the wear and tear that came with them. Overall, I think I got good value from the car, not just in monetary terms but the enjoyment it gave - its soft suspension and torquey, tractable motor made town and motorway driving (the majority of my mileage) a pleasure, but it could still make me smile on a B-road or track day, even if managing the movement of the weight was more of a priority than I'd have liked. For me, the car revolved around the powertrain, and that combination of BMW's famous straight-6, the FR layout and a 50/50 weight distribution lived up to it's reputation. Ultimate driving machine, innit?
To finish off, here are few photos from my last few weeks with the car:
At the PHSS at Silverstone with PH'er Angry Sheep and his lovely E34 520i.
Blyton Park in Lincolnshire two days before it was sold!
Where I spent a lot of time doing this
Talking of soft suspension
Such for sale (N.B. This one didn't go on the AutoTrader ad!)
Waiting at the car wash, yeah
McSam fills up 'his' car
That's all folks! Thread on its replacement coming soon...
So, did the car end up being the bargain I first thought it would be? Excluding fuel and insurance, here's what I spent on it over 7 months and 14,442 miles:
Item | Cost (£) |
---|---|
Depreiciation | -550 |
Maintenance | 1,102 |
Wheels and tyres | 225 |
Tax | 248 |
Upgrades | 63 |
Total | 1,088 |
Per month | 155 |
Per mile | 7.5p |
So I guess I did end up spending more on it than I originally planned, but then again I got 6 track days out of it, and money went in to offset the wear and tear that came with them. Overall, I think I got good value from the car, not just in monetary terms but the enjoyment it gave - its soft suspension and torquey, tractable motor made town and motorway driving (the majority of my mileage) a pleasure, but it could still make me smile on a B-road or track day, even if managing the movement of the weight was more of a priority than I'd have liked. For me, the car revolved around the powertrain, and that combination of BMW's famous straight-6, the FR layout and a 50/50 weight distribution lived up to it's reputation. Ultimate driving machine, innit?
To finish off, here are few photos from my last few weeks with the car:
At the PHSS at Silverstone with PH'er Angry Sheep and his lovely E34 520i.
Blyton Park in Lincolnshire two days before it was sold!
Where I spent a lot of time doing this
Talking of soft suspension
Such for sale (N.B. This one didn't go on the AutoTrader ad!)
Waiting at the car wash, yeah
McSam fills up 'his' car
That's all folks! Thread on its replacement coming soon...
Coaster94 said:
Only one thing to say here, very stochastic!
#weathergateWill you be at BUKC 24hr?
Coaster94 said:
Sad to hear you've sold it, seems like a decent deal for the both of you though. Any ideas what you may replace it with?
It was replaced on the night it was sold! As I said, thread on that coming soon but if you can't wait then have a look in 'My Garage'.Gassing Station | Readers' Cars | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff