Porsche 996 GT3 mk2 Guards Red
Discussion
so before the GT3 I had a silver grey m3 CSL. great car, second one but I always had the GT3 itch to scratch and glad I done it.
bought the car back in June this year and spec:
996 MK2 GT3 in Guards Red
03 Plate 69k miles
RS front bumper with vents
RS carbon rear spoiler with the ram air ducts
RS 29 pads all round
sports exhaust
Porsche bucket seats with Shroth harnesses
Porsche half cage in rear
Porsche and Porsche indy history
all shocks rebuilt by Bilstein in 2013 with new H&R springs
bought the car back in June this year and spec:
996 MK2 GT3 in Guards Red
03 Plate 69k miles
RS front bumper with vents
RS carbon rear spoiler with the ram air ducts
RS 29 pads all round
sports exhaust
Porsche bucket seats with Shroth harnesses
Porsche half cage in rear
Porsche and Porsche indy history
all shocks rebuilt by Bilstein in 2013 with new H&R springs
previous owner had removed the silencers which was not very sociable and it lacked low down torque/pick up.
Steve at Viper Exhausts in Essex is a real genius with exhaust metals and bends. used to work in an F1 team making their exhausts. top grade 304 stainless steel rear boxes and 2mm steel thick piping at right bore.
end result is LOADS quieter and it drives so much better now. actually has some back pressure at low revs and torque. still a sport sound but very liveable.
much better pick up and has that GT3 sound back. still sounds nice. very happy and very good pricing. about one third what it would have cost to do OEM stuff!! Porsche wanted £950 plus VAT for the OEM rear silencer and you need two. oh yes plus the brackets that hold the boxes....they are £250 each plus VAT sir. Perfect.
Steve at Viper Exhausts in Essex is a real genius with exhaust metals and bends. used to work in an F1 team making their exhausts. top grade 304 stainless steel rear boxes and 2mm steel thick piping at right bore.
end result is LOADS quieter and it drives so much better now. actually has some back pressure at low revs and torque. still a sport sound but very liveable.
much better pick up and has that GT3 sound back. still sounds nice. very happy and very good pricing. about one third what it would have cost to do OEM stuff!! Porsche wanted £950 plus VAT for the OEM rear silencer and you need two. oh yes plus the brackets that hold the boxes....they are £250 each plus VAT sir. Perfect.
was never a fan of the leather wheel and the totally black interior so recently done some changes in October 2014.
old wheel:
sent off to Jack at Royal steering wheels in Aylesbury who re done the steering wheel and gear lever in 9002 dark grey alcantara with matching red stitching. put a red band at 12 oclock too. man is a genius and done a great job for the money!!
old wheel:
sent off to Jack at Royal steering wheels in Aylesbury who re done the steering wheel and gear lever in 9002 dark grey alcantara with matching red stitching. put a red band at 12 oclock too. man is a genius and done a great job for the money!!
and finally to today....
centre console and seat eyelets for the harnesses done in guards red. really pleased with the outcome and really brings out the changed wheels and gear lever with the red stitching.
have also changed the tyre to some semi slicks which have helped a lot.
the other piece was changing the ARB settings around. was on full hard setting so very harsh on the road. went down 2 on the front and 1 on the rear. feels easier on the road and less crashy. handy if u get caught in the wet too.
centre console and seat eyelets for the harnesses done in guards red. really pleased with the outcome and really brings out the changed wheels and gear lever with the red stitching.
have also changed the tyre to some semi slicks which have helped a lot.
the other piece was changing the ARB settings around. was on full hard setting so very harsh on the road. went down 2 on the front and 1 on the rear. feels easier on the road and less crashy. handy if u get caught in the wet too.
gents I have no idea what you are on about ;-)
all I know is that I had bought a car that was about 110 db on tickover, totally unsociable, unimpressed wife and neighbours, ran lumpy, drove like scheit around town and just not good.
OEM GT3 exhausts are like rocking horse poop and a small mortgage from Porsche.
Viper got me out of a hole, it looks fine from behind, sounds a millions times better, drives and smells like it should so that was fine for me. still has a sporty sound too.
I just get in it, drive it, clean it but have feck all mechanical idea. its a stainless steel exhaust to me ;-)
love driving it and may see some folks at sunday service at Silverstone.
all I know is that I had bought a car that was about 110 db on tickover, totally unsociable, unimpressed wife and neighbours, ran lumpy, drove like scheit around town and just not good.
OEM GT3 exhausts are like rocking horse poop and a small mortgage from Porsche.
Viper got me out of a hole, it looks fine from behind, sounds a millions times better, drives and smells like it should so that was fine for me. still has a sporty sound too.
I just get in it, drive it, clean it but have feck all mechanical idea. its a stainless steel exhaust to me ;-)
love driving it and may see some folks at sunday service at Silverstone.
CSL was a great car james and still love the sound of them/the way they drive/the balance.
on track you could really take liberties with the CSL and even mid corner...the GT3 is a different animal. take any sort of Berty and it will bite.
every journey is a mission and a great one. don't drive it much to keep it special. gets a lot more attention too being a 911, that wing and the colour.
CSL and GT3 are both epic cars and I feel really lucky to have had both tbh. a CSL on cups on a fast A road is just a smile a mile too.
I think the GT3 just steps it up one more notch. its that engine and the way it just goes and goes.
on track you could really take liberties with the CSL and even mid corner...the GT3 is a different animal. take any sort of Berty and it will bite.
every journey is a mission and a great one. don't drive it much to keep it special. gets a lot more attention too being a 911, that wing and the colour.
CSL and GT3 are both epic cars and I feel really lucky to have had both tbh. a CSL on cups on a fast A road is just a smile a mile too.
I think the GT3 just steps it up one more notch. its that engine and the way it just goes and goes.
Mermaid I don't agree with that. I know of a few 100k plus GT3s...bearing in mind they only made 200 for the UK that is not bad going. 422 RHD CSLs in the UK and not many of those are over 100k miles. I had a CSL that had 114k miles on it when I sold it and it was a good high miler. was used on the motorway a lot by previous owner and its still going well with current owner past 120k miles.
but there are a lot of garage queen/low mileage CSLs out there though which people wont drive/investors and some are now having issues. I know of 3 CSLs with sub 60k miles all with top end issues and broken Cams. BMW can't supply the original CSL cams which are more hollow/lighter so some people have had their cars laid up for over a year. not a good advert!
you are going to get good and bad ones with all cars and especially those in low numbers.
the Metzger engine in the GT3/turbo is very different to the normal 3.6 engines in the 996. its heritage goes back to the original Le mans engine from the GT1 race car so its very strong. it has a dry sump for starters and does not suffer the IMS and bore scoring issues of the 3.4/3/6 engines.
so bought one of these:
BMC panel filter
and one of these:
rear air ram duct (helps get more air in)
going to be painted guards red.
idea is to help with breathing a little bit.
going to go all red and keep the RS spoiler come spring. remove the graphics and paint front/rear bumpers.
sth like this (apart from the black roof and black bonnet!):
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/porsche-996-g...
but there are a lot of garage queen/low mileage CSLs out there though which people wont drive/investors and some are now having issues. I know of 3 CSLs with sub 60k miles all with top end issues and broken Cams. BMW can't supply the original CSL cams which are more hollow/lighter so some people have had their cars laid up for over a year. not a good advert!
you are going to get good and bad ones with all cars and especially those in low numbers.
the Metzger engine in the GT3/turbo is very different to the normal 3.6 engines in the 996. its heritage goes back to the original Le mans engine from the GT1 race car so its very strong. it has a dry sump for starters and does not suffer the IMS and bore scoring issues of the 3.4/3/6 engines.
so bought one of these:
BMC panel filter
and one of these:
rear air ram duct (helps get more air in)
going to be painted guards red.
idea is to help with breathing a little bit.
going to go all red and keep the RS spoiler come spring. remove the graphics and paint front/rear bumpers.
sth like this (apart from the black roof and black bonnet!):
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/porsche-996-g...
Edited by DasChin on Wednesday 7th January 07:46
Edited by DasChin on Wednesday 7th January 08:55
same as GF15. very happy customer and no connection with Jack. done a great job on the wheel and gearlever.
what colour was your mk1 marky? was it a club sport or comfort?
mine is a comfort originally but the buckets, harnesses and half cage were added later.
I might get some sports headers but not sure they will make much difference to power. see how I get on with the filter and rear air ram duct.
what colour was your mk1 marky? was it a club sport or comfort?
mine is a comfort originally but the buckets, harnesses and half cage were added later.
I might get some sports headers but not sure they will make much difference to power. see how I get on with the filter and rear air ram duct.
supercharged will send you a pm. was done by a local painter.
there are some on ebay from time to time as the boxster consoles fit as well with a bit of mucking around.
marky that was a lovely car you had there. you can always come back. Mk1s are really really special now.
yeah the car is way more competent that I am/will ever so best leave it be. have done the exhaust boxes as you can see from the thread and it has that lovely GT3 howl back. filter should help a bit too with breathing.
there are some on ebay from time to time as the boxster consoles fit as well with a bit of mucking around.
marky that was a lovely car you had there. you can always come back. Mk1s are really really special now.
yeah the car is way more competent that I am/will ever so best leave it be. have done the exhaust boxes as you can see from the thread and it has that lovely GT3 howl back. filter should help a bit too with breathing.
car had new plugs and coil packs as a few of them had cracked so was running lumpy. that was October 2014.
have been busy getting bits over winter....
BMC panel air filter:
RS style rear air ram duct to help get more air in:
some black mesh for front bumper to protect rads n air con.
GT3 kick plates/side sill protector from OPC as mine were missing!
Michelin Pilot sport cups all round (awesome prices on tyreleader)
997 GT3 front and rear brake ducts - blow me down it was like just over £20 for all 4.
997 GT3 Front Ducts - £2.18 each plus vat
997.341.483.92
997.341.484.92.
997 Rears - £6.30 each plus vat
997.331.487.92
997.331.488.92
fronts will look like this:
rears:
front and rear bumper as well as bonnet getting some paint later this month.
have been busy getting bits over winter....
BMC panel air filter:
RS style rear air ram duct to help get more air in:
some black mesh for front bumper to protect rads n air con.
GT3 kick plates/side sill protector from OPC as mine were missing!
Michelin Pilot sport cups all round (awesome prices on tyreleader)
997 GT3 front and rear brake ducts - blow me down it was like just over £20 for all 4.
997 GT3 Front Ducts - £2.18 each plus vat
997.341.483.92
997.341.484.92.
997 Rears - £6.30 each plus vat
997.331.487.92
997.331.488.92
fronts will look like this:
rears:
front and rear bumper as well as bonnet getting some paint later this month.
finally got round to fitting. thank god for bank holidays and good weather ;-)
took about 1 hour to do all four what with getting car on the wooden board to raise it, jack it up, do again but worth it. bearing in mind I am distinctly average with spanners in fact bordering on utter s
te...
Front near side:
no duct:
duct added:
(underneath looking up at back of disc)
Rear near side:
Rear Off side/PX
no duct:
for the rear ducts I needed to trim one of the top plastic curves that stick out the most as was catching the wheel. circled in yellow. easy to do as softish plastic and done with a new Stanley knife:
View of front ducts from under the car:
from rear of car - just see the front ducts as lowest point of car, hanging down:
rear caliper duct from rear of car:
hope that helps and will see how I get on with them.
DC
took about 1 hour to do all four what with getting car on the wooden board to raise it, jack it up, do again but worth it. bearing in mind I am distinctly average with spanners in fact bordering on utter s
te...Front near side:
no duct:
duct added:
(underneath looking up at back of disc)
Rear near side:
Rear Off side/PX
no duct:
for the rear ducts I needed to trim one of the top plastic curves that stick out the most as was catching the wheel. circled in yellow. easy to do as softish plastic and done with a new Stanley knife:
View of front ducts from under the car:
from rear of car - just see the front ducts as lowest point of car, hanging down:
rear caliper duct from rear of car:
hope that helps and will see how I get on with them.
DC
Edited by DasChin on Tuesday 7th April 16:26
BMC panel filter fitted. seems to breathe a little better.
popped up to Design 911 to get the carbon rear air ram duct. now that is a ruddy DANGEROUS place to visit and your wallet winces as you walk in ;-) nearly walked out with a set of equal length headers and 200 cell cats. paint first, paint first!!!
what it would look like on the car:
I would love to keep it carbon but its a different effect to the Manthey RS spoiler I have so best option is to paint Guard Red so it blends in.
need to get it bolted and fixed in next.
popped up to Design 911 to get the carbon rear air ram duct. now that is a ruddy DANGEROUS place to visit and your wallet winces as you walk in ;-) nearly walked out with a set of equal length headers and 200 cell cats. paint first, paint first!!!
what it would look like on the car:
I would love to keep it carbon but its a different effect to the Manthey RS spoiler I have so best option is to paint Guard Red so it blends in.
need to get it bolted and fixed in next.
and so it begins....
the old girl went in a couple of weeks ago and progress has been good. I expect the prep and paint to take around 4-5 weeks. I want them to take their time and they have really gone to town with getting all the chips, dings and other bits sorted out.
its currently in primer and settling this week before more blocking and flatting and then paint . staying with guard red.
no rush as its a weekend car and am sure it will come out looking the part.
the mirrors will be red as well as the RS rear air ram duct.
the old girl went in a couple of weeks ago and progress has been good. I expect the prep and paint to take around 4-5 weeks. I want them to take their time and they have really gone to town with getting all the chips, dings and other bits sorted out.
its currently in primer and settling this week before more blocking and flatting and then paint . staying with guard red.
no rush as its a weekend car and am sure it will come out looking the part.
the mirrors will be red as well as the RS rear air ram duct.
ok so progress on the paint front....
shell has been done as well as the doors, bonnet, front and rear bumper. just a few other bits to go. hoping end of week once trim and windows are all back on.
its a deeper red than I had before and I guess 10 year old paint has oxidised and changed colour.
shell has been done as well as the doors, bonnet, front and rear bumper. just a few other bits to go. hoping end of week once trim and windows are all back on.
its a deeper red than I had before and I guess 10 year old paint has oxidised and changed colour.
picked up the old girl after what was a long 5.5 weeks wait but well worth it. the paintwork is just superb and its like glass. massive thanks to Manor Coachworks in Erith and Scotts Performance in Dartford who have looked after her (and many of my other cars)
RS style black decal delete
GT3 RS rear air ram duct added and painted
Mirrors painted in red
GT3 kick plates added as were missing?
new clips in the roof rails as were broken
loads of other things done I am sure!!
very happy with the results.
new windscreen goes in next Tuesday.
RS style black decal delete
GT3 RS rear air ram duct added and painted
Mirrors painted in red
GT3 kick plates added as were missing?
new clips in the roof rails as were broken
loads of other things done I am sure!!
very happy with the results.
new windscreen goes in next Tuesday.
oh yeah use it as it should be....euro trips/le mans/the ring/track days.
its got 70k miles on it not 7k so far from being a garage queen!
some of these cars with 1k-10k miles on them I just find it criminal and bonkers. well not criminal as such just more of a waste of a great car. not using them for long periods is actually not that good for them!
its got 70k miles on it not 7k so far from being a garage queen!
some of these cars with 1k-10k miles on them I just find it criminal and bonkers. well not criminal as such just more of a waste of a great car. not using them for long periods is actually not that good for them!
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