The Cobra Adventure
Discussion
As posted in my Moon mileage Alpina thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... (Sorry this post is made up of a series of other posts on a different forum), I missed having something mad to run along side it. I was looking at all sorts, Caterham's, Atoms, Cayman GT4's, GT3's and even a Macca 570s in one of my weaker moments.
None of them though really got me going. The Caterhams were too samey when compared to what I had before and the Porkers were too much like 'normal' cars.
Then the Mrs chimed in with why don't you get something you've always though was cool, and literally the first thing that came to mind was a Cobra.
I've always loved them since been little. I've been around kit cars since I was 16 so know them inside out, whats good, what isn't, whats correct etc.
So I set about looking, with my criteria list:
As close to period correct visibly as possible
Flat dash
Offset shifter
Open inner doors
15's with bubble tyres
Correct riveted bonnet and hood scoop
Correct body shape at the rear and front
Side pipes
And most importantly a Ford derived 427ci motor (7litre)
Annoyingly wanting all of the above basically throws out all the UK made reps, bar the £125k ali bodied ones. Even AC's own repos all use LS motors now.
The likes of Dax, AK and Pilgrim all have a design at the rear where it falls away too quickly compared to the real car, and the Pilgrim especially has an difficult front end.
The UK ones also have really odd interiors with the dash and trans tunnel merging. They also generally have chevy 305ci's in them, as they are cheap and plentiful. As well as hateful 17" wheels! (Sorry owners with these!)
So I was only really left with the American made reps (well the shells are done in South Africa). The two companies making the majority of these been Superformance and Backdraft.
Superformance are very nice cars, but the suspension design is of their own making and can be err a little interesting. Backdraft basically ripped the geo from a E36 M3 and used that on their own chassis. I'd have happily had either, LHD wasn't a problem for me.
Now the search was a tough one, very few of these cars are in the UK, and when they get offered through a dealer, they end up being a huge price. Then you can add in the fact its impossible to see one atm and it made it stressful.
Then I randomly found on on car and classic, which was local but had no price. Spoke to the owner, he said all the right things (sadly he got clobbered by Covid), so I've bought it unseen. Hopefully collect it this week!
Short spec:
Backdraft Cobra 427 SC
Imported 2017
5000 miles since it was built
Period correct bright work
Extra passenger roll hoop
Painted stripes
Stainless side pipers
15" wheels
Smeding Performance 427 V8. (Stroked Ford Windsor from 351ci to 427ci) 65kg lighter than a big block
500bhp/500lbft
Built Tremec T500 gearbox
Custom independent rear suspension with Torsen LSD.
Collected it,......
3 Weeks Ago.....
The paperwork is mental. Even have the copies of the payments cheques for the body ex engine from the USA.
First job was getting all those stickers off:
CO2 aware in this household....
Well... I’ve still not driven it and I’ve broken it...
Was going through all the boring check stuff to make sure it wouldn’t fall apart when I first take it out.
When checking the clutch range of movement the slave cylinder s**t it’s self. Only a £30 part though so no biggie. Better then it happening when I’m out and about!
Also look at the harness’s, they are from a 1971 aircraft. I'm not using those!!
Week 2.............
TRS harnesses ordered.
As well as what I assume to be the correct slave cylinder too. The broken one is still on the car and I can’t be bothered to take it off atm.
Hopefully have the first drive next weekend, weather dependant.
Engine shots.... its a bit bling for me. Wi'll be making it look more original in the future.
Photo of the car from when it lived in California!
Some parts have come!
New clutch slave cylinder
Bonnet gas strut
Steering wheel frameless button holder
Brass adapter for the vac gauge
Still awaiting:
High temp clutch fluid
Funk motorsport clutch and brake line heat protection
TRS Harness'
Also ordered:
Classic switch label set
1960 Lucas single push switches
Clutch slave cylinder done!
As you can see it was a right t**t to bleed.
I’m glad my guess at a 1991 Landrover Defender slave cylinder was right though!
Clutch all re set and it nice to use!
Rolled out of the garage for its maiden drive.
Well.....
Bad points:
It runs lean on acceleration
The near side front break squeals all the time
The tyres had 16 psi in them
It’s too low on the front and the tyres rub
Steering is a proper effort at low speed
Good points:
LHD is fun!
It’s sounds biblical
It’s actually nice to drive
The Mrs loves it
It’s a f**king Cobra
It shakes like a badass at idle
All the little fixes I’ve done have make it better
All in all I’m calling it a great success!!
Neighbour update:
3rd noise complaint today...
So after much reading I set about re setting the carb....
Carb update:
Took the jets, metering rods and springs out.
Found it was set to:
12% Lean cruise
15%!!!!!! Lean throttle
No wonder I had issues.
Now set to:
4% Lean cruise
6% Rich throttle
So hopefully that helps.
If not, I can go to:
0% Cruise
15% Rich throttle
The current 21% swing in rich fuelling should sort me.
Some photo's of how it stands now.
Oh yeah, also fitted all the funk motorsport heat proofing to my clutch and brake lines that pass the manifold.
The lean saga continues.
Carb all set up, idles fine, drives on light throttle fine. Lean as hell with any proper throttle.
So popped round the parents in it, Dad wanted to see it running.
Had the bonnet open, started it, running happily but....
Fuel pressure was through the floor, knocked the engine off and its back up to where it should be. The bloody fuel pump is on its way out!
So to distract me from making this thing fuel injected.... I finished the interior.
When I got it, I didn’t really show the interior. It had a Nismo wheel FFS....
So here are some before:
And now, with new wheel, switch gear, labels and the daft carbon fibre panel painted black:
This Week............
I caved.....
Holley Sniper EFI unit
Just ordered an 044 pump which will 'just' about keep up with the fuel needs of 7000cc at full chat.
Sniper on and half the wiring done.
This is going to be an adventure....
This weekend
So today was eventful.
First off my new pump and filter sit very low! Low enough that I think they need a shield making.
Other than that, got it all plumbed up. Ran the pump and fuel every where. The one bit of hose I hadn’t changed was leaking. Typical.
Sorted that.
Finished the wiring off for the sniper. Do all the settings, set the wizard off to make a map and..... all it’ll do is crank, no rpm signal.
Test everything no issues, odd.
Have a route for a better tach signal under the dash and what’s that? A bloody MSD programmable ignition unit. Who knew. Took the tach signal off that.
Boom she starts, straight into a happy idle. Within 2 mins the guy from 6 doors down was on the drive, I told him to sod off and checked for any more leaks.
All been well, time for a test drive. Within a mile I nearly lost a wheel. The cap nuts had bottomed out on the studs, so they could wind them selves out. Mrs came to my aid and I swapped the cap nuts for some open ones, sorted.
By now the car was in warm and was idling at 2000 with the idle valve closed, checked for air leaks, none. Weird. Quick google and I hadn’t adjusted the hot idle screw. Idiot. Quickly sorted that and off I went for it to self tune.
After 20 mins or random driving, for the first time ever I gave it all it had...
HOLY f**king s**t
This thing is fast. From a roll it left an easy 50m set of 11’s in 3rd gear.
Did a bit more driving, got cold, went home.
LOVE IT.
None of them though really got me going. The Caterhams were too samey when compared to what I had before and the Porkers were too much like 'normal' cars.
Then the Mrs chimed in with why don't you get something you've always though was cool, and literally the first thing that came to mind was a Cobra.
I've always loved them since been little. I've been around kit cars since I was 16 so know them inside out, whats good, what isn't, whats correct etc.
So I set about looking, with my criteria list:
As close to period correct visibly as possible
Flat dash
Offset shifter
Open inner doors
15's with bubble tyres
Correct riveted bonnet and hood scoop
Correct body shape at the rear and front
Side pipes
And most importantly a Ford derived 427ci motor (7litre)
Annoyingly wanting all of the above basically throws out all the UK made reps, bar the £125k ali bodied ones. Even AC's own repos all use LS motors now.
The likes of Dax, AK and Pilgrim all have a design at the rear where it falls away too quickly compared to the real car, and the Pilgrim especially has an difficult front end.
The UK ones also have really odd interiors with the dash and trans tunnel merging. They also generally have chevy 305ci's in them, as they are cheap and plentiful. As well as hateful 17" wheels! (Sorry owners with these!)
So I was only really left with the American made reps (well the shells are done in South Africa). The two companies making the majority of these been Superformance and Backdraft.
Superformance are very nice cars, but the suspension design is of their own making and can be err a little interesting. Backdraft basically ripped the geo from a E36 M3 and used that on their own chassis. I'd have happily had either, LHD wasn't a problem for me.
Now the search was a tough one, very few of these cars are in the UK, and when they get offered through a dealer, they end up being a huge price. Then you can add in the fact its impossible to see one atm and it made it stressful.
Then I randomly found on on car and classic, which was local but had no price. Spoke to the owner, he said all the right things (sadly he got clobbered by Covid), so I've bought it unseen. Hopefully collect it this week!
Short spec:
Backdraft Cobra 427 SC
Imported 2017
5000 miles since it was built
Period correct bright work
Extra passenger roll hoop
Painted stripes
Stainless side pipers
15" wheels
Smeding Performance 427 V8. (Stroked Ford Windsor from 351ci to 427ci) 65kg lighter than a big block
500bhp/500lbft
Built Tremec T500 gearbox
Custom independent rear suspension with Torsen LSD.
Collected it,......
3 Weeks Ago.....
The paperwork is mental. Even have the copies of the payments cheques for the body ex engine from the USA.
First job was getting all those stickers off:
CO2 aware in this household....
Well... I’ve still not driven it and I’ve broken it...
Was going through all the boring check stuff to make sure it wouldn’t fall apart when I first take it out.
When checking the clutch range of movement the slave cylinder s**t it’s self. Only a £30 part though so no biggie. Better then it happening when I’m out and about!
Also look at the harness’s, they are from a 1971 aircraft. I'm not using those!!
Week 2.............
TRS harnesses ordered.
As well as what I assume to be the correct slave cylinder too. The broken one is still on the car and I can’t be bothered to take it off atm.
Hopefully have the first drive next weekend, weather dependant.
Engine shots.... its a bit bling for me. Wi'll be making it look more original in the future.
Photo of the car from when it lived in California!
Some parts have come!
New clutch slave cylinder
Bonnet gas strut
Steering wheel frameless button holder
Brass adapter for the vac gauge
Still awaiting:
High temp clutch fluid
Funk motorsport clutch and brake line heat protection
TRS Harness'
Also ordered:
Classic switch label set
1960 Lucas single push switches
Clutch slave cylinder done!
As you can see it was a right t**t to bleed.
I’m glad my guess at a 1991 Landrover Defender slave cylinder was right though!
Clutch all re set and it nice to use!
Rolled out of the garage for its maiden drive.
Well.....
Bad points:
It runs lean on acceleration
The near side front break squeals all the time
The tyres had 16 psi in them
It’s too low on the front and the tyres rub
Steering is a proper effort at low speed
Good points:
LHD is fun!
It’s sounds biblical
It’s actually nice to drive
The Mrs loves it
It’s a f**king Cobra
It shakes like a badass at idle
All the little fixes I’ve done have make it better
All in all I’m calling it a great success!!
Neighbour update:
3rd noise complaint today...
So after much reading I set about re setting the carb....
Carb update:
Took the jets, metering rods and springs out.
Found it was set to:
12% Lean cruise
15%!!!!!! Lean throttle
No wonder I had issues.
Now set to:
4% Lean cruise
6% Rich throttle
So hopefully that helps.
If not, I can go to:
0% Cruise
15% Rich throttle
The current 21% swing in rich fuelling should sort me.
Some photo's of how it stands now.
Oh yeah, also fitted all the funk motorsport heat proofing to my clutch and brake lines that pass the manifold.
The lean saga continues.
Carb all set up, idles fine, drives on light throttle fine. Lean as hell with any proper throttle.
So popped round the parents in it, Dad wanted to see it running.
Had the bonnet open, started it, running happily but....
Fuel pressure was through the floor, knocked the engine off and its back up to where it should be. The bloody fuel pump is on its way out!
So to distract me from making this thing fuel injected.... I finished the interior.
When I got it, I didn’t really show the interior. It had a Nismo wheel FFS....
So here are some before:
And now, with new wheel, switch gear, labels and the daft carbon fibre panel painted black:
This Week............
I caved.....
Holley Sniper EFI unit
Just ordered an 044 pump which will 'just' about keep up with the fuel needs of 7000cc at full chat.
Sniper on and half the wiring done.
This is going to be an adventure....
This weekend
So today was eventful.
First off my new pump and filter sit very low! Low enough that I think they need a shield making.
Other than that, got it all plumbed up. Ran the pump and fuel every where. The one bit of hose I hadn’t changed was leaking. Typical.
Sorted that.
Finished the wiring off for the sniper. Do all the settings, set the wizard off to make a map and..... all it’ll do is crank, no rpm signal.
Test everything no issues, odd.
Have a route for a better tach signal under the dash and what’s that? A bloody MSD programmable ignition unit. Who knew. Took the tach signal off that.
Boom she starts, straight into a happy idle. Within 2 mins the guy from 6 doors down was on the drive, I told him to sod off and checked for any more leaks.
All been well, time for a test drive. Within a mile I nearly lost a wheel. The cap nuts had bottomed out on the studs, so they could wind them selves out. Mrs came to my aid and I swapped the cap nuts for some open ones, sorted.
By now the car was in warm and was idling at 2000 with the idle valve closed, checked for air leaks, none. Weird. Quick google and I hadn’t adjusted the hot idle screw. Idiot. Quickly sorted that and off I went for it to self tune.
After 20 mins or random driving, for the first time ever I gave it all it had...
HOLY f**king s**t
This thing is fast. From a roll it left an easy 50m set of 11’s in 3rd gear.
Did a bit more driving, got cold, went home.
LOVE IT.
Edited by Waitey on Wednesday 28th April 09:05
Edited by Waitey on Tuesday 21st February 09:58
boxy but good said:
Brilliant write up.
Thank you.
I must ask though, What is the story behind the crushed exhaust on the garage wall ?
I bought a 300bhp Ford Duratec Engine for a Westfield I built. I got the exhaust with it. As you can see it'd been in hell of a shunt. I keep it as art!Thank you.
I must ask though, What is the story behind the crushed exhaust on the garage wall ?
Ambleton said:
I'm sure my toy isn't anywhere near as loud as yours, but I've found the best way to appease folk is to take them out in it.
We have some more senior neighbours across the road and they brought their grand kids over the other day to watch and gawp as I fired her up, let it warm up for 10mins and head out.
Once they've experienced the joy they bring they realise that a bit of noise every now and then is no biggie.
Sadly I have a long standing issue with this neighbour. It started when I was building Westfield in the garage, 4 years ago!We have some more senior neighbours across the road and they brought their grand kids over the other day to watch and gawp as I fired her up, let it warm up for 10mins and head out.
Once they've experienced the joy they bring they realise that a bit of noise every now and then is no biggie.
Oddly now, there are 3 people with AMG's that are loud near me and I get blamed for their noise too.
He lives SIX houses down too!
MrBig said:
What a machine!! When I was reading I was thinking to myself "why go to so much trouble to avoid the UK kits" and then I saw the pictures and got it straight away.
It looks absolutely stunning, enjoy.
I am intrigued though, how is it registered as a 64 car? Presumably that's not when it was built?
In the USA you can apply for a historic title. The Ford Windsor Engine in this is a 1964. So it got awarded 1964 US Title. It looks absolutely stunning, enjoy.
I am intrigued though, how is it registered as a 64 car? Presumably that's not when it was built?
When it was imported, the DVLA would only go off its official South Carolina title which was a 1964 Ford based Historic vehicle title.
was8v said:
Wash that brake fluid off the tarmac ASAP with plenty of soap it will slowly eat its way through the tarmac. Put something down next time!
The cobra is just beautiful, you did the right thing the other reps are a dogs dinner.
The drive is a write off, after fuel line split on a Westifeld over it, and dumped 20l of 99ron onto it about 3 years ago. The cobra is just beautiful, you did the right thing the other reps are a dogs dinner.
Then I left a leaky Alfa 159 parked in the same spot for 4 months.
I block it out now.
Sf_Manta said:
Waitey said:
This weekend
So today was eventful.
First off my new pump and filter sit very low! Low enough that I think they need a shield making.
Other than that, got it all plumbed up. Ran the pump and fuel every where. The one bit of hose I hadn’t changed was leaking. Typical.
Sorted that.
Finished the wiring off for the sniper. Do all the settings, set the wizard off to make a map and..... all it’ll do is crank, no rpm signal.
Test everything no issues, odd.
Have a route for a better tach signal under the dash and what’s that? A bloody MSD programmable ignition unit. Who knew. Took the tach signal off that.
Boom she starts, straight into a happy idle. Within 2 mins the guy from 6 doors down was on the drive, I told him to sod off and checked for any more leaks.
All been well, time for a test drive. Within a mile I nearly lost a wheel. The cap nuts had bottomed out on the studs, so they could wind them selves out. Mrs came to my aid and I swapped the cap nuts for some open ones, sorted.
By now the car was in warm and was idling at 2000 with the idle valve closed, checked for air leaks, none. Weird. Quick google and I hadn’t adjusted the hot idle screw. Idiot. Quickly sorted that and off I went for it to self tune.
After 20 mins or random driving, for the first time ever I gave it all it had...
HOLY f**king s**t
This thing is fast. From a roll it left an easy 50m set of 11’s in 3rd gear.
Did a bit more driving, got cold, went home.
LOVE IT.
I nearly spat my drink all over the screen laughing at the responce to the neighbor bit and the "HOLY ***" moment. I remember my first ride in the proto 620R when i was working at Caterham (Thanks Dan), all i could do was laugh like a mad man as he belted it up from 2nd to 4th and well past 120mph... One of my best days at work So today was eventful.
First off my new pump and filter sit very low! Low enough that I think they need a shield making.
Other than that, got it all plumbed up. Ran the pump and fuel every where. The one bit of hose I hadn’t changed was leaking. Typical.
Sorted that.
Finished the wiring off for the sniper. Do all the settings, set the wizard off to make a map and..... all it’ll do is crank, no rpm signal.
Test everything no issues, odd.
Have a route for a better tach signal under the dash and what’s that? A bloody MSD programmable ignition unit. Who knew. Took the tach signal off that.
Boom she starts, straight into a happy idle. Within 2 mins the guy from 6 doors down was on the drive, I told him to sod off and checked for any more leaks.
All been well, time for a test drive. Within a mile I nearly lost a wheel. The cap nuts had bottomed out on the studs, so they could wind them selves out. Mrs came to my aid and I swapped the cap nuts for some open ones, sorted.
By now the car was in warm and was idling at 2000 with the idle valve closed, checked for air leaks, none. Weird. Quick google and I hadn’t adjusted the hot idle screw. Idiot. Quickly sorted that and off I went for it to self tune.
After 20 mins or random driving, for the first time ever I gave it all it had...
HOLY f**king s**t
This thing is fast. From a roll it left an easy 50m set of 11’s in 3rd gear.
Did a bit more driving, got cold, went home.
LOVE IT.
Look forwards to seeing more on this, and would suggest looking to swap to the pancake filter style with a filter cap if you can get a low rise to fit, those triangular ones rob quite abit of power from what i've seen on Engine Masters from HR magazine. May well need some more 'tuning' once you swap them over.
EDIT - one of these:
Edited by Sf_Manta on Tuesday 27th April 16:40
I want to get the bay looking more original. Which will probably mean ditching all the shiny bits any making it look like a normal Windsor again.
Jonny TVR said:
Looks really good.
I have a 427SC on build at DB427. I'm basing mine on CSX3049.
It will have a 580 bhp Southern Automotive 427 ci side oiler engine.
It will be a left hooker.
My previous one was based on an AK427. See below. It had the windsor engine like yours. It sounded like two Harleys .. one on each side of you.
If it was me I would get rid of the passenger hoop but thats only cosmetic. Looks great.
I was offered your old car by a place in Malton.I have a 427SC on build at DB427. I'm basing mine on CSX3049.
It will have a 580 bhp Southern Automotive 427 ci side oiler engine.
It will be a left hooker.
My previous one was based on an AK427. See below. It had the windsor engine like yours. It sounded like two Harleys .. one on each side of you.
If it was me I would get rid of the passenger hoop but thats only cosmetic. Looks great.
I'll be going down the engine bay route you old one had too.
In regards to the second hoop..... I originally wanted one with just the drivers one....but
Mrs Waitey feels far happier in it with one over her head, which I can't argue with, and this car was bought on her suggestion for s to spend time in together.
Congrats on the DB427. I emailed Dave a bit when I was looking. I just couldn't get the man maths to go that far!
samoht said:
Very cool, the depth of your knowledge shows through, clearly a Cobra Connoisseur.
The quote about Backdraft taking the geometry from the E36 M3 is interesting - presumably this has double wishbones upfront though, rather than the E36's McPherson struts? Or not?
Will be interested to hear your driving impressions once you get more miles in it.
Might not be overly clear but yes, its running a McPherson strut at the front.The quote about Backdraft taking the geometry from the E36 M3 is interesting - presumably this has double wishbones upfront though, rather than the E36's McPherson struts? Or not?
Will be interested to hear your driving impressions once you get more miles in it.
Armchair_Expert said:
One question - who is Mickey Thompson?
https://www.mickeythompsontires.com/drag-tires
The rear uses all E36 pars, inc the Diff, diff cradle, trailing arms, spring mounts and lower arms.
Edited by Waitey on Tuesday 21st February 09:38
t show sometimes, good to see there are still some good forum go'ers.Paul S4 said:
Really like your Cobra.
A few years ago I recall watching a series with that vet chap (Mark Evans ?) who built a replica. He fitted the side pipes mainly for ground clearance....apparently he wanted to use it for farm visits (!!)
It's only my opinion....but weren't the early Cobra fitted with the rear pipes...?
And as far as the sound issue, I once had a 1970 Elan S4SE that I fitted a stainless steel twin pipe rear box to....it looked OEM but against all advice from a classic Lotus mechanic pal, it was too loud and caused a few neighbour issues. Also it was too loud for my long road trips up to Scotland....
so in the end I reverted to a standard Sprint rear box which was much better and kept everyone happy.....!!
Yes the early cars, with the smaller V8's ran the pipes under the cars. A few years ago I recall watching a series with that vet chap (Mark Evans ?) who built a replica. He fitted the side pipes mainly for ground clearance....apparently he wanted to use it for farm visits (!!)
It's only my opinion....but weren't the early Cobra fitted with the rear pipes...?
And as far as the sound issue, I once had a 1970 Elan S4SE that I fitted a stainless steel twin pipe rear box to....it looked OEM but against all advice from a classic Lotus mechanic pal, it was too loud and caused a few neighbour issues. Also it was too loud for my long road trips up to Scotland....
so in the end I reverted to a standard Sprint rear box which was much better and kept everyone happy.....!!
The 427's esp the race ones carried side pipes.
InitialDave said:
Nice project, 3 series based, never heard of that before.
Interesting you mention the bodies being from South Africa, seems to be a lot of experience with GRP there, Noble had their stuff made out there too, IIRC.
Only 3 series parts are the suspension, brakes and diff. Good idea really. Interesting you mention the bodies being from South Africa, seems to be a lot of experience with GRP there, Noble had their stuff made out there too, IIRC.
seefarr said:
What a wonderful thing. I've been a passenger in one with a warm Chev 350 that would also happily light up the tyres at seemingly any speed / gear even on a warm day. I think it's a feature.
One sticker was covering a mark in the paint.... (I knew that'd be the case)... the other 50 were just there for fun. Waitey said:
When I got it, I didn’t really show the interior. It had a Nismo wheel FFS....
What were they thinking with the 1400 stickers on the side and the wheel? Presumably the next step was a massive hydro handbrake for sick drifting action? Good job on rescuing it!The last owner said the wood wheel was slippery. Which they are but you get used to it.
It did come with a fake wooden wheel. I wasn't using that!
Searider said:
Interesting that the fuelling was so far out.
You'd think that whoever built it in the States would have got that set up properly - then strange that the guy you bought it from didn't notice anything wrong!
I’m sure it was fine when it came to the UK. The last owned said it was running rich when he got it, so he changed the carb and altered the pumps fuel run. You'd think that whoever built it in the States would have got that set up properly - then strange that the guy you bought it from didn't notice anything wrong!
Sadly it was VERY restrictive and that has weakened the pump. He should have left it alone.
Rather than just change the pump, I’ve spent 10x the cash and gone to EFI. Haha.
Still my little test drive showed the change to EFI was 100% worth it.
This week:
So on to mocking up where the pumps and filters can live.
For the test run, they were all just on where ever they'd fit, which isn't ideal for flow, seeing leaks or servicing.
So I'm looking at moving them all to be in one place, underslung off the diff mount.
I did a quick mock up with some ali hole board, hose in place of AN fittings and lots of cable ties.
Its hard to photo, but they look a lot lower than they are, in reality they are higher than both the sump and the gearbox bell housing. They are around 20cm from the ground.
I think though, I'll get them mounted to some ali plate then build in a stand off with a skid plate below them.
The other option is to go up into the boot with them, but then you are asking the pump to draw upwards all the time and I think I'd see starvation issues.
I could run a 1.5l swirl in the right hand side of the boot. Run the 044 straight off it. Use my weakened Gates pump as a lift pump under no pressure. The return line already goes near that side of the boot.
Hmmmmmm
MaxpeedingRods surge tank is here. How they make them for £25 is beyond me. Its REALLY good quality.
Fuel system re done and I have 3 leaks.
Two of the outlets on the top of the tank.
The underside of the fuel filter.
Been at it 7 hours today. Trying to be tidy. So those leaks can wait till tomorrow.
Finished.
Used copper hardline where I could up to the boot.
Took the leaking joints apart.
On the fuel filter the copper ring had a nick in it. The ones on the tank that leaked just needed the mating faces cleaning up.
On the lift pump the electric fittings were push on, not really liking those I tapped them to M5 thread and put a lock nut on.
Tidied all that up and sorted the wiring and it fired first time.
Also junked the stupid oil breather lines and fitting some Moroso oil recirc caps.
Happy days. Just need some sun now.
So on to mocking up where the pumps and filters can live.
For the test run, they were all just on where ever they'd fit, which isn't ideal for flow, seeing leaks or servicing.
So I'm looking at moving them all to be in one place, underslung off the diff mount.
I did a quick mock up with some ali hole board, hose in place of AN fittings and lots of cable ties.
Its hard to photo, but they look a lot lower than they are, in reality they are higher than both the sump and the gearbox bell housing. They are around 20cm from the ground.
I think though, I'll get them mounted to some ali plate then build in a stand off with a skid plate below them.
The other option is to go up into the boot with them, but then you are asking the pump to draw upwards all the time and I think I'd see starvation issues.
I could run a 1.5l swirl in the right hand side of the boot. Run the 044 straight off it. Use my weakened Gates pump as a lift pump under no pressure. The return line already goes near that side of the boot.
Hmmmmmm
MaxpeedingRods surge tank is here. How they make them for £25 is beyond me. Its REALLY good quality.
Fuel system re done and I have 3 leaks.
Two of the outlets on the top of the tank.
The underside of the fuel filter.
Been at it 7 hours today. Trying to be tidy. So those leaks can wait till tomorrow.
Finished.
Used copper hardline where I could up to the boot.
Took the leaking joints apart.
On the fuel filter the copper ring had a nick in it. The ones on the tank that leaked just needed the mating faces cleaning up.
On the lift pump the electric fittings were push on, not really liking those I tapped them to M5 thread and put a lock nut on.
Tidied all that up and sorted the wiring and it fired first time.
Also junked the stupid oil breather lines and fitting some Moroso oil recirc caps.
Happy days. Just need some sun now.
Edited by Waitey on Monday 19th June 09:34
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