Porsche itch won't go away....time for a C4S!?
Discussion
So once again my mind has swung to Porshe, even though iI was hoping to keep both my Vx and get a Porsche, it's financially not going to work out like that, so 996 GT3, 997 CS, Boxster S, Cayman S are all out the window, so i am now Seriously considering the 996 C4S !
Drove a very nice Lapis blue coupe yesterday and was very very surprised by how pointy, accurate and light, nimble it felt. Standard exhausts as well and it sounded great in my opinion, and overall feel and look was amazing, loved it! I was also surprised how fast it felt, it seemed much quicker than my vx off the line, and much quicker then at the gen 2 cayman s i had for a month, am i deluded?
I thought it did feel like it was the closet thing to the 996 GT3 you could get without getting a GT3, and for a lot less cash.
So now my dilemma, is should it be the cabriolet C4S or the coupe, love the looks of the coupe, but would miss the cab of my vx220...
Are there any known gremlins or major expenses with the power hood, it looks a complex bit of kit with potentially huge amount of things tat could go wrong, is there any performance reduction with the cab?
I understand the sat nab is vital spec, why is that, i was led to believe it's crap!?
any advice buying a C4S appreciated
Drove a very nice Lapis blue coupe yesterday and was very very surprised by how pointy, accurate and light, nimble it felt. Standard exhausts as well and it sounded great in my opinion, and overall feel and look was amazing, loved it! I was also surprised how fast it felt, it seemed much quicker than my vx off the line, and much quicker then at the gen 2 cayman s i had for a month, am i deluded?
I thought it did feel like it was the closet thing to the 996 GT3 you could get without getting a GT3, and for a lot less cash.
So now my dilemma, is should it be the cabriolet C4S or the coupe, love the looks of the coupe, but would miss the cab of my vx220...
Are there any known gremlins or major expenses with the power hood, it looks a complex bit of kit with potentially huge amount of things tat could go wrong, is there any performance reduction with the cab?
I understand the sat nab is vital spec, why is that, i was led to believe it's crap!?
any advice buying a C4S appreciated
What do people think is a fair price for a decent C4S cabriolet, the prices of both seem to vary quite a lot, I have seen cabs and coupes at 20k and some much higher, and some high 80k milers at £21,000, is £23-25k a good budget for a decent cab?
I am swaying towards the cab over the coupe, as will miss my vx220 open top motoring!
I am swaying towards the cab over the coupe, as will miss my vx220 open top motoring!
So, very excited as I am off tomorrow early to check out the exact spec car I am looking for. Based on advice from here, condition is everything, but on a 8/9 yr old car what is acceptable condition wise and what's not, what should put me off from the service history, it's a full OPC history, any other major points to consider?
Also, I'll get an independent inspection if all goes well, a Porsche dealer recommended RAC ? Is this correct, I thought a Porsche would be too specialist ? The dealer mentioned they have a guarantee with their inspection that they are liable if they miss something that then goes wrong, meaning they do a very thorough inspection????
Opinions on this?
Thanks for the advice, really helpful
Also, I'll get an independent inspection if all goes well, a Porsche dealer recommended RAC ? Is this correct, I thought a Porsche would be too specialist ? The dealer mentioned they have a guarantee with their inspection that they are liable if they miss something that then goes wrong, meaning they do a very thorough inspection????
Opinions on this?
Thanks for the advice, really helpful
The car is viewed at the weekend was very much not as described, missing bonnet sticker, front nose respray, lip on the discs, metallic smell from engine after driving, excess smoke from one tail pipe, heavy clutch, torn leather on seats.... i walked
so still hunting
few questions if anyone could help
Sills rusting, and paint rubbing off around top of windscreen on the cabriolet versions - is this common?
Bore scoring issues - I understand i need a horoscope check to check the bores, but what fault is this looking for, is this linked to the RMS issue, so if the RMS has been fixed, bore scoring won't occur? If not who's to say this issue won't happen 5 miles down the road after purchasing???
Should i only consider cars that have had RMS work carried out?
Also if RMS has been carried out would it mean the clutch HAS been replaced, would it be odd if it hadn't been replaced at the same time?
TBH, got my eye on two cabs currently that are in this position, well spec'd, all the toys, although interior colours not first choice, dark blue leather ( reminds me of my blue mk1 clio 172, way back! )
help appreciated
so still hunting
few questions if anyone could help
Sills rusting, and paint rubbing off around top of windscreen on the cabriolet versions - is this common?
Bore scoring issues - I understand i need a horoscope check to check the bores, but what fault is this looking for, is this linked to the RMS issue, so if the RMS has been fixed, bore scoring won't occur? If not who's to say this issue won't happen 5 miles down the road after purchasing???
Should i only consider cars that have had RMS work carried out?
Also if RMS has been carried out would it mean the clutch HAS been replaced, would it be odd if it hadn't been replaced at the same time?
TBH, got my eye on two cabs currently that are in this position, well spec'd, all the toys, although interior colours not first choice, dark blue leather ( reminds me of my blue mk1 clio 172, way back! )
help appreciated
yes it was the passenger side tail pipe!
Ok, so from what you guys are saying
1. Get the car inspected, bores checked
2. Then get a warranty, from Hartech or similar for the IMS issue / bore scoring - this has to be more cost effective than a slush fund, 18 grand for a new engine!!!!
3. Buy on condition and history, rather than mileage
So the RMS work is relatively minor and easily fixed as opposed to the Major issue of Bore Scoring....
thanks
Pretty much got my mind set on a cabriolet,hope the right car presents itself, potentially viewing a couple this weekend, both look really good, hopefully not just on the computer screen!
does the X51 pack, throw up any additional issue I should be aware of, as one of the cars has this, only just got my heard round IMS, RMS !!!!
I have seen a nice black coupe on 911uk, which has had a new engine at 60k miles, and has now completed another 20k on this engine, would this mean IMS issues have been eliminated from a NEW engine, or will it always be a problem of the 996 lump?
Ok, so from what you guys are saying
1. Get the car inspected, bores checked
2. Then get a warranty, from Hartech or similar for the IMS issue / bore scoring - this has to be more cost effective than a slush fund, 18 grand for a new engine!!!!
3. Buy on condition and history, rather than mileage
So the RMS work is relatively minor and easily fixed as opposed to the Major issue of Bore Scoring....
thanks
Pretty much got my mind set on a cabriolet,hope the right car presents itself, potentially viewing a couple this weekend, both look really good, hopefully not just on the computer screen!
does the X51 pack, throw up any additional issue I should be aware of, as one of the cars has this, only just got my heard round IMS, RMS !!!!
I have seen a nice black coupe on 911uk, which has had a new engine at 60k miles, and has now completed another 20k on this engine, would this mean IMS issues have been eliminated from a NEW engine, or will it always be a problem of the 996 lump?
i do love the c4s sound with PSE
and wanted a cab, Turbo cab too much, but found this, and wondered what people thought
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
and wanted a cab, Turbo cab too much, but found this, and wondered what people thought
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
I am looking at 2004 C4S and this is a 2002 turbo, around similar money tbh
Mileage on the turbo is quite a bit higher, but i am understanding from these forums, that as long as regularly serviced, the Turbo has no issues with 72,000 miles?
One of the C4S I am looking at is 60k miles....
Mileage on the turbo is quite a bit higher, but i am understanding from these forums, that as long as regularly serviced, the Turbo has no issues with 72,000 miles?
One of the C4S I am looking at is 60k miles....
hmmmm, this is tricky
finally in a position to get my first 911, and preferred the rawness of the C4S, even after driving two Turbo's initially, but now, armed with all the knowledge of the potential issues with a C4S..... i am not so sure!
are the Turbo's engines much more reliable, Clidfords are a good specialist? So it would be throughly checked, serviced etc before purchase?
finally in a position to get my first 911, and preferred the rawness of the C4S, even after driving two Turbo's initially, but now, armed with all the knowledge of the potential issues with a C4S..... i am not so sure!
are the Turbo's engines much more reliable, Clidfords are a good specialist? So it would be throughly checked, serviced etc before purchase?
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