Anybody got a 964 they don't want?

Anybody got a 964 they don't want?

Author
Discussion

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
quotequote all
Because I need it for one of these, just ordered biggrin


AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
quotequote all
avaF1 said:
wow. well done!
tell us mere mortals more about the ordering / customization process.......
assume you need to source your own 964? that alone is a task in this market
Ordering process for me has been simple so far.
I met Rob Dickinson, aka Mr Singer and had a good long chat.
Chris Harris turned up unexpectedly (not to see me I might add) so a good natter was also had.
Greg, Singers' UK servicing chap was an absolute pleasure and a mine of info, showed me all round the car in detail.
Furlongers have sent me the website config link and password.
And now I am stumped! Need to savour the whole experience and spend time with them looking at various materials and paint options.
Greg sources a donor 964 too.

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
quotequote all
Scooty100 said:
mollytherocker said:
I agree, except it will be under 20 years.
Nah I can't see anyone bothered to do that if they can blow 250k plus on a singer they clearly don't need the cash
Indeed. Daft idea

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
quotequote all
footsoldier said:
Andrew - I went through the same process a few months back, and am going to the factory later this month (mid family-holiday) to finalise spec, although I have a holding one in place.

Wasn't easy finding a good base car. Greg was looking, but I was lucky enough to get a tip-off on one being traded in last month.





Edited by footsoldier on Wednesday 1st July 22:29
Fantastic!
What are you going for?
Coupe, 4.0, 6 speed with lsd and ohlins is all I have "decided" right now

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
quotequote all
mollytherocker said:
Scooty100 said:
mollytherocker said:
I agree, except it will be under 20 years.
Nah I can't see anyone bothered to do that if they can blow 250k plus on a singer they clearly don't need the cash
Original good air cooled cars will be worth more than any aftermarket car.

Singer make incredible cars, that is in no doubt but the original cars will be worth more money.

Put it this way, anyone who buys a Singer over say, a 993 or 964RS is betting the wrong way.

However, if they dont care about money and just want to make a car that suits them then fair enough.
What is this "betting" nonsense?
We are talking about cars here.
Please, no talk of values and could have made more money blah blah on this thread. It is crass and pointless.

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
quotequote all
mollytherocker said:
AndrewD said:
What is this "betting" nonsense?
We are talking about cars here.
Please, no talk of values and could have made more money blah blah on this thread. It is crass and pointless.
I totally respect that.

You should buy what you want to buy.
beer

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
quotequote all
Cheers, I will share the progress when it gets underway but build won't start until early 2017 frown

Rob's band was the Catherine Wheels, he was the songwriter and singer. I haven't listened to any of their catalogue yet, I'm sure he'll throw in copies of the albums! smile

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
quotequote all
Thanks again!

These are the wheels. Singer have spent a lot of time getting this right and if you talk to Rob, the wheels and tyres make the car. They complement those gorgeous arches and work has been done on suspension and removing adverse potential of bigger wheels and lower ride eg to bump steer etc.

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
quotequote all
footsoldier said:
I'm making a deliberate effort to try to go for a more useable road spec, rather than the normal method of maxing everything! So, currently have the 3.8l engine and the G50 5-speed box. Going for more upgrades in the interior, and of course the silver fuel and oil caps.

As I said, I'll be finalising at factory in a couple of weeks, so I can see everything up close. The chances are I'll be at 4.0, 6 speed and maximum everything by the time I get home!

Not sure on colour yet, that's the hardest bit - I've got a brighter colour than normal Singer on order now, but planning to keep it for a long time (esp as it will be worthless...), so might revert to something more classic.
Good luck! I'm in Washington and Oregon next month I wonder if the family would mind a quick flight to California? smile
Doing first pass on colours and interior tomorrow!

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
quotequote all
MrVert said:
jeremyc said:
Approved. thumbup

Oh dear lord...that is beautiful.....cloud9
Agreed!
I'm tending to like the powder blue or this grey in the photo, with a bright interior

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
quotequote all
hufggfg said:
Wow! Huge congratulations! For those of us without a hope of ever being able to afford one, it's great to have guys buying them into the UK so that we'll be able to see them, and awesome that you share the details of the process on here, as I'm just we're all fascinated!

I really don't know what I'd do colour wise, would be torn between going with something "interesting" and something subtle to let the shape do the talking! I'd love to see one in a really deep inky blue... no idea if that exists, I should really go check on their gallery!
Cheers!

Just spent a couple of hours with Paul from Furlongers who are working with Singer in the UK on sales. He brought a huge box of material and colour samples.
So far we have put a few specs together, gulf blue with a two tone interior, and a light pastel gray and an ivory with shades of red/purple and houndstooth interior. Various details on weaved vs smooth leather, where is carpeted, etc. All the cars have the Porsche stickers on the outside rather than badges, and are 4.0 coupes with big brakes, 6 speed and LSD and the carbon bucket seats. Singer are able to produce detailed renders and so I'll put a few up when I get them. They offer 72 colours for the exterior but you can also do paint to sample so there is anything you like. We've gone for some carpet and leather options that aren't in the sample box but I am sure they can do those too. We got down to geeky details too, like do I want exposed bolt heads on the fuchs-style alloys or not. Fantastic!

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
quotequote all
Wozy68 said:
Well done OP

Might be a silly question but when they run out of 964s and it seems they like the flaired rear, considering what these cost, could they convert the 993 into one?

To me, the front of an earlier 911 and the suspension and rear of the 993, on paper at least seems like a good idea.
Thanks.
Not sure about the 993 question as they have done all their work on the 964. I think Rob's feeling is the 993 introduced the multi link rear suspension and he prefers the 911-ness of the trailing arm. Anyway, they produce such a small number of cars I doubt it makes a lot of difference to the 964 market. I would expect Singer to be working on other variants at some point though.

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
quotequote all
jeremyc said:
AndrewD said:
MrVert said:
jeremyc said:
Approved. thumbup

Oh dear lord...that is beautiful.....cloud9
Agreed!
I'm tending to like the powder blue or this grey in the photo, with a bright interior
This is good news, because I do have a track record of purchasing your cast off vehicles. wink
You might have to wait a while! smile

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
quotequote all
Pesty said:
for the right money and a passenger ride when you get it maybe smile
Sure - but what is the right money? Don't forget, I spent it all in California so I am penniless and to be taken great pity on, but I do do amazing passenger rides smile

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Monday 6th July 2015
quotequote all
Luke. said:
pork911 said:
i've no desire to spark a value for money or future values debate or whatever....firstly OP good on you x100, secondly (bespoke and string length aside) what is the ballpark figure for one?
Around £250k.
Bit more than that

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Monday 6th July 2015
quotequote all
As this was my thread originally, can we keep it off talk of money?

This is about the car and the experience!

smile

AndrewD

Original Poster:

7,538 posts

284 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
quotequote all
footsoldier said:
AndrewD said:
This is about the car and the experience!

smile
Big part of the experience for me: factory visit next Friday to finalise spec and confirm build date!

Andrew - are you still taking your Countach out this weekend? If so, I'll see you there to discuss...
Enjoy the visit! We are out in US in a couple of weeks so I will visit too.
And yes, see you at the Countach meet, look forward to meeting!