Uber low mileage 3.2 G50 Carrera for sale
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Hi Wozy. Don't disagree I'd prefer to buy one that has a few more miles i.e. a car one does not feel guilty using. Having said that i'd happily drive the wheels off the 32000 mile car at JZM. I can't imagine many of the 75000 odd variants made of this model are in the sort of condition these cars are - most of them are rust buckets. Also these are real Porsches. A new 991 C2s is what a £100k nowadays hence the 12k mile G50 Carrera doesn't look so expensive against a new Porsche and its a far more analogue/special experience. Close your eyes in any modern 911 and you could be driving any old box saloon.
As other more intelligent PHers than me have pointed out this crash isn't coming anytime soon. Far too much cash floating around in the system for this to happen. Loans at 3% etc. Banks literally giving money away at the moment.
Just playing devils advocate for a second we have all benefited from this Porsche phenomenon. What was you 993 worth a few years ago? Maybe £15k? Today £35k! I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth lol....
As other more intelligent PHers than me have pointed out this crash isn't coming anytime soon. Far too much cash floating around in the system for this to happen. Loans at 3% etc. Banks literally giving money away at the moment.
Just playing devils advocate for a second we have all benefited from this Porsche phenomenon. What was you 993 worth a few years ago? Maybe £15k? Today £35k! I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth lol....
Scooty100 said:
9e 28 said:
I wouldn't even consider the 2nd one EGTE said:
...then they have to spend mega-bucks rebuilding the engine, replacing the bushes and hoses that have perished, fixing the rust that's been hidden with filler and then finding the car's slower than a TD Skoda (just like the EVO editor is doing) and then being unable to drive it because of the value it loses.
Not sure why anyone would think this is a good idea, other than using the classic bubble mentality of 'some great fool will pay more'.
Do not agree with this. I bet a time warp 60,000 or 30,000 3.2 Carrera or 964 C2 which are now a minimum of 25 years old are in far far better like for like condition than most 30,000 or 60,000 mile 996 and 997.Not sure why anyone would think this is a good idea, other than using the classic bubble mentality of 'some great fool will pay more'.
The JZM car is mint with zero rust. Thats why someone has just paid £74,000 for it.
The old cars if looked after properly will live far longer than us or their newer siblings. Have you ever looked round a mint air cooled car? Just pull the door handle and close the door. That will give you an idea of well built these old things are.
g7jhp said:
9e 28 said:
Do not agree with this. I bet a time warp 60,000 or 30,000 3.2 Carrera or 964 C2 which are now a minimum of 25 years old are in far far better like for like condition than most 30,000 or 60,000 mile 996 and 997.
The JZM car is mint with zero rust. Thats why someone has just paid £74,000 for it.
The old cars if looked after properly will live far longer than us or their newer siblings. Have you ever looked round a mint air cooled car? Just pull the door handle and close the door. That will give you an idea of well built these old things are.
You wouldn't own a 3.2 Carrera and 964C2 would you? The JZM car is mint with zero rust. Thats why someone has just paid £74,000 for it.
The old cars if looked after properly will live far longer than us or their newer siblings. Have you ever looked round a mint air cooled car? Just pull the door handle and close the door. That will give you an idea of well built these old things are.
g7jhp said:
9e 28 said:
Have you ever actually looked under a 996 or 997? The corrosion on engine, suspension components will make you fall of your chair. I do have water-cooled by the way and have been looking for a nice 7 GT2/GT3 or 993 C2 for a while so not stuck on one set of cars or tother. Even started going weak at the knees of a beautiful 996 turbo X50 JZM have in Lapis Blue then came to my senses i.e. already had a turbo so why buy another but my its a time warp example they currently have
Yes.Some of the nuts and bolts used on the 996/997 are a poor quality and it's best to swap when doing work around the car. However they are fantastic in other areas and well protected from bodywork rust unlike the 3.2 and 964.
I ran my 3.2's in all weathers and they did need attention as they do rot. Likewise the 964 tends to get it around the rear lights. My 993 was a solid car, but didn't have the soul of the 3.2 that it replaced or the one that replaced it.
The 997 and 997 turbo's are fantastic and a performance bargain compared with these earlier cars.
A 996.2 C2 or still an interesting buy if you can get past worrying about the engine!
rubystone said:
996s are so much better protected from corrosion than their predecessors. I've done a fair amount of work on air cooled 911s I've owned over the years and the 996 I own now has them beat in so many areas. Rusty captive nuts in bellows? Seized bolts in tinware?
Would I spend £74k on a low mileage 3.2? I don't think it's special enough to be honest. I'd rather spend that on a 2.4T, but that's just me, I guess? I am sure that no one buys these cars expecting them to be quick though!
For sure at that money I'd be looking at an F430Would I spend £74k on a low mileage 3.2? I don't think it's special enough to be honest. I'd rather spend that on a 2.4T, but that's just me, I guess? I am sure that no one buys these cars expecting them to be quick though!
g7jhp said:
9e 28 said:
Well it looks clean but I don't personally like guards red. It has standard not sports seats, non-standard steering wheel (although a nice one) and looks a little low at the rear wheels.I certainly wouldn't pay £70k for it, but it is period and all the items mentioned are easily rectified, apart from the seats.
^^^^ Thought long and hard about that one. Did you not consider it too?
Heres a lovely old modded higher mileage targa for more money than a concourse ultra low miles original G50 coupe. You wonder which asylum the vendor has been let loose from.
http://www.precisionporsche.co.uk/cars-for-sale/
And its not a 930 lol!
Heres a lovely old modded higher mileage targa for more money than a concourse ultra low miles original G50 coupe. You wonder which asylum the vendor has been let loose from.
http://www.precisionporsche.co.uk/cars-for-sale/
And its not a 930 lol!
In the last 18 months I believe this car was sold by JZM for £35k ish. Avantgarde then sold for £69,995. Its now up for £79,950. Extraordinary!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
9e 28 said:
I do apologise. This car is £90,000 not £70,000. Christ on a bike. 
The Red Devil said:
in the real world that's worth half of that........
Wholeheartedly agree but can you realistically buy them for half that in the real world? I almost had an argument with the vendor when he told me how much it was. I thought £70k but thats another concourse winning car he hasn't put up for sale with approaching 60,000 miles! WTFThe Red Devil said:
9e 28 said:
Out of interest how much is the low mile 964 tip cab you have for sale? Looks lovely
Its away, a truly lovely car, originally a Honk Kong vehiclehttp://www.jdclassics.co.uk/showrooms/Porsche-930-...
Contacted JD Classics on this lovely 1978 911 turbo (not sure what LM stands for). Its been restored so expected it to be in region of £75 to £100k tops as LHD. £335,000
So asked what the 1983 MB 500 SL (again restored not original) standing next to it was up for. £125,000
Seriously £90,000 for a low miles 3.2 G50 from HK with no sports seats and £335,000
for a 1978 911 turbo which is a truly awful drive (i realise there's more to it than how it drives but for me thats more important than looking amazing).
Its not even amusing any more. I shall refrain in the future. Certain dealers like JZM and 911V keeping it real but even dealers we've bought from in the past like Hairpin have lost the plot IMO. JD Classics some fantastic stock but living in la la land on their more run of the mill stock.
Contacted JD Classics on this lovely 1978 911 turbo (not sure what LM stands for). Its been restored so expected it to be in region of £75 to £100k tops as LHD. £335,000
So asked what the 1983 MB 500 SL (again restored not original) standing next to it was up for. £125,000
Seriously £90,000 for a low miles 3.2 G50 from HK with no sports seats and £335,000
for a 1978 911 turbo which is a truly awful drive (i realise there's more to it than how it drives but for me thats more important than looking amazing). Its not even amusing any more. I shall refrain in the future. Certain dealers like JZM and 911V keeping it real but even dealers we've bought from in the past like Hairpin have lost the plot IMO. JD Classics some fantastic stock but living in la la land on their more run of the mill stock.
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