murcielago roadster---in a bright colour
Discussion
hi will
thanks for summarising the uk murcie roadster situation
I know the orange VVS roadster very well---it is a very good car at a very good dealer , and may well have been the one, had fate not intervened and decreed otherwise
mark's car is of course lovely---I lusted after it when it was advertised 3 years ago by tom Hartley, but I was not in a position to move at that stage
I do not know you Will, or your car, but I hope that you are both thoroughly enjoying each other
I saw jon's old car at the cliveden do about 3 years ago , and it too was very nice
sometimes these old cars sit around , unknown to the outside world, waiting for a new owner.
14 years ago, I was after a one owner countach, and I was told, repeatedly and definitively, that such a car did not exist in the uk
The only other person who kept faith in this unpromising mission was Jason Barker, who was at that time the sole salesman at the then Lamborghini London
I was totally over-joyed when he finally succeeded , but it took him 3 years
(the sole previous owner had had 5 countachs, and the factory offered him the choice of a 25th anniversary or a 88 1/2 ; and each of these with or without the wing at no extra cost----he chose the 88 1/2 without the wing )
we had got to know each other well by then , and I think it was his last sale for LL, and he just charged the SOR price plus £800 for transport and insurance !!
Thank-you Jason--I still owe you more than one , and wish you well
And here's hoping that history will repeat itself
hi again mark
you are quite right in appreciating your lp640's historic engine , but don't forget its space-frame chassis (the murcie does have a space-frame does it not?)
my wife and I had lunch with valentino balboni in july 2013 , and he tells a lovely story of bizzarinni massaging the power and torque figures for the prototype engine
equally as special , was meeting up with signor marchesi in june 2014 just outside Modena.
Marchesi is now in his 80's , and each countach spaceframe was handbuilt in his factory--2 spaceframes were hand-welded each week, by a group of 14 men
To my mind, these hand-welded chassis are just as special as those iconic engines
thanks both, once again, for your responses
thanks for summarising the uk murcie roadster situation
I know the orange VVS roadster very well---it is a very good car at a very good dealer , and may well have been the one, had fate not intervened and decreed otherwise
mark's car is of course lovely---I lusted after it when it was advertised 3 years ago by tom Hartley, but I was not in a position to move at that stage
I do not know you Will, or your car, but I hope that you are both thoroughly enjoying each other
I saw jon's old car at the cliveden do about 3 years ago , and it too was very nice
sometimes these old cars sit around , unknown to the outside world, waiting for a new owner.
14 years ago, I was after a one owner countach, and I was told, repeatedly and definitively, that such a car did not exist in the uk
The only other person who kept faith in this unpromising mission was Jason Barker, who was at that time the sole salesman at the then Lamborghini London
I was totally over-joyed when he finally succeeded , but it took him 3 years
(the sole previous owner had had 5 countachs, and the factory offered him the choice of a 25th anniversary or a 88 1/2 ; and each of these with or without the wing at no extra cost----he chose the 88 1/2 without the wing )
we had got to know each other well by then , and I think it was his last sale for LL, and he just charged the SOR price plus £800 for transport and insurance !!
Thank-you Jason--I still owe you more than one , and wish you well
And here's hoping that history will repeat itself
hi again mark
you are quite right in appreciating your lp640's historic engine , but don't forget its space-frame chassis (the murcie does have a space-frame does it not?)
my wife and I had lunch with valentino balboni in july 2013 , and he tells a lovely story of bizzarinni massaging the power and torque figures for the prototype engine
equally as special , was meeting up with signor marchesi in june 2014 just outside Modena.
Marchesi is now in his 80's , and each countach spaceframe was handbuilt in his factory--2 spaceframes were hand-welded each week, by a group of 14 men
To my mind, these hand-welded chassis are just as special as those iconic engines
thanks both, once again, for your responses
this thread is turning out to be very useful , as it is beginning to provide concrete numbers for uk murcie roadsters , which in turn means that a potential buyer can then decide what the chances of finding a decent car are
joyzipper and atlantisweb--thamks for the 640 tip--but I don't think that this is the car for me
as you say there are quite a number of murcie roadsters on the PH sales site just now , and some of these have been on offer for a long time now
the very good cars ,like Mark's and Jon's old car, have been intensely scrutinised by fastidious potential owners prior to purchase as Mark describes above, and are already in private hands, and are not likely to be sold again anytime soon
A less than good car is a time-bomb, and clearly, just not worth the bother
What I have learnt from this thread is that I am unlikely to find a decent murcie roadster in a bright colour.
Which in turn means , waiting for an aventador to come within reach OR just being very happy with my 355
my wife and I were at Cliveden in august, on the day that the ppi was being done on the murcie roadster with black wheels, that I was keen on
that morning, when I drew back the curtains, there was a beautiful white aventador with black wheels and red callipers parked in the courtyard
I had previously never liked white cars , and had abhorred black wheels , but this car was just stunning.
Black wheels were just that much more acceptable after seeing this aventador
Will and Mark , keep enjoying your lovelies
joyzipper and atlantisweb--thamks for the 640 tip--but I don't think that this is the car for me
as you say there are quite a number of murcie roadsters on the PH sales site just now , and some of these have been on offer for a long time now
the very good cars ,like Mark's and Jon's old car, have been intensely scrutinised by fastidious potential owners prior to purchase as Mark describes above, and are already in private hands, and are not likely to be sold again anytime soon
A less than good car is a time-bomb, and clearly, just not worth the bother
What I have learnt from this thread is that I am unlikely to find a decent murcie roadster in a bright colour.
Which in turn means , waiting for an aventador to come within reach OR just being very happy with my 355
my wife and I were at Cliveden in august, on the day that the ppi was being done on the murcie roadster with black wheels, that I was keen on
that morning, when I drew back the curtains, there was a beautiful white aventador with black wheels and red callipers parked in the courtyard
I had previously never liked white cars , and had abhorred black wheels , but this car was just stunning.
Black wheels were just that much more acceptable after seeing this aventador
Will and Mark , keep enjoying your lovelies
dear stain, f1ten and will, thanks for your replies
f1ten and will , thanks for the offer of a ride--something I would like to take up one day, and supporting the ''bears'' is always good
believe it or not, I've only ever driven 2 murcies, and then only for about 5-10 minutes each, on the same day---as you say , what's not to like
having said that , if I were ever to be invited onto mastermind, my chosen topic would have to be either countach or murcielago---and that may be the root cause of my problems
I buy to keep very long-term, and I think that this fact made me more OCD than the average punter, maybe too much more so.
Having found one I wanted, I tried to sort out the issues that any second hand car is bound to have.
There were significant peripheral issues , but these were easily overcome with good-will on both sides.
PPI'ed
4 x 400 mile round trips to see the car
Paid for it
My pretty hand-writing all over the service book!!
All stops pulled out by the dealer to have car delivered to my house bang on time ,exactly as agreed.
PX 355 sitting on the driveway ready to go
Small issue which led to the car being incontinent and shutting itself down on arrival
I totally panicked , and threw the toy out of the pram (my wife's words !!)--- definitely my bad, as they say.
( when the average age of the cars you are used to is 21 years old, with the oldest being 26, and the youngest into double figures, these new-fangled contraptions with e-gear etc are quite frightening to a Luddite)
so there you have it
in some ways I feel that I have experienced murcie ownership already
it would be a fair criticism of me, to say that I should have been prepared for small issues with a second-hand lambo , purely through having owned a countach for 14 years , and I would be the first to say that sympathy and apologies should rightly go to the dealer....but there is no accounting for panicking when faced with a dashboard rainbow
so I am now looking into this new-fangled Aventador thing
no doubt it will have even more dashboard lights to frighten me with
the nice thing with the countach, is that the only electronic part of any cost is the ignition box , and you can set your watch by when it needs replacement--every 12 years. (currently on the 3rd box , and this time its a msd unit and not a marelli , so here's hoping for greater longevity)
sadly Will , the funds for it will definitely not be available for this x'mas or the next , but they tell me its the journey and not the destination that counts
f1ten and will , thanks for the offer of a ride--something I would like to take up one day, and supporting the ''bears'' is always good
believe it or not, I've only ever driven 2 murcies, and then only for about 5-10 minutes each, on the same day---as you say , what's not to like
having said that , if I were ever to be invited onto mastermind, my chosen topic would have to be either countach or murcielago---and that may be the root cause of my problems
I buy to keep very long-term, and I think that this fact made me more OCD than the average punter, maybe too much more so.
Having found one I wanted, I tried to sort out the issues that any second hand car is bound to have.
There were significant peripheral issues , but these were easily overcome with good-will on both sides.
PPI'ed
4 x 400 mile round trips to see the car
Paid for it
My pretty hand-writing all over the service book!!
All stops pulled out by the dealer to have car delivered to my house bang on time ,exactly as agreed.
PX 355 sitting on the driveway ready to go
Small issue which led to the car being incontinent and shutting itself down on arrival
I totally panicked , and threw the toy out of the pram (my wife's words !!)--- definitely my bad, as they say.
( when the average age of the cars you are used to is 21 years old, with the oldest being 26, and the youngest into double figures, these new-fangled contraptions with e-gear etc are quite frightening to a Luddite)
so there you have it
in some ways I feel that I have experienced murcie ownership already
it would be a fair criticism of me, to say that I should have been prepared for small issues with a second-hand lambo , purely through having owned a countach for 14 years , and I would be the first to say that sympathy and apologies should rightly go to the dealer....but there is no accounting for panicking when faced with a dashboard rainbow
so I am now looking into this new-fangled Aventador thing
no doubt it will have even more dashboard lights to frighten me with
the nice thing with the countach, is that the only electronic part of any cost is the ignition box , and you can set your watch by when it needs replacement--every 12 years. (currently on the 3rd box , and this time its a msd unit and not a marelli , so here's hoping for greater longevity)
sadly Will , the funds for it will definitely not be available for this x'mas or the next , but they tell me its the journey and not the destination that counts
Edited by carspath on Sunday 26th October 00:00
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