Twin turbo,s dump valves ?

Twin turbo,s dump valves ?

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mighty kitten

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Sunday 10th April 2016
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Not really a problem but my 1uzfe twin turbo has two blow off valves each vac line going to the same point in the plenum and compressors connected straight to the wastegates . Gates are adjustable . They are definitely dumping one before the other and I'm running 6 psi




Not run twin turbos before so I'm thinking I need to put a guage line on each compressor to wastegate line and adjust the preload on the lazy one to balance them or am I missing something ??? Tia

mighty kitten

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Sunday 10th April 2016
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Rigged them up and one has a leak so they were 3psi apart . These are some weird hybrid kkk for Amg and il struggle to find one but the leak was through a vent in the body so bodged a little something in to shut it up and wound them off to crack at 7 psi and they are opening nicely together now


I was expecting to hear the leak through the valve but it's quiet just need to track down a replacement



mighty kitten

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Monday 11th April 2016
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they look like crimped on diaphragm covers so might be able to use a v band clamp to replace it with and try and repair the leak which can't be major as I'm not hearing anything through the valve stem .

mighty kitten

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Monday 11th April 2016
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It was leaking through the little vent hole in the body which I've plugged for now with a bit of ally welding rod . It's got to be the diaphragm split inside but I'd expect the leak to come through the valve guide now which it actually is with some leak detector spray on the valve stem but very very slight and they are cracking open nicely .
Pretty sure the turbine side is early 90,s Merc 250d but haven't seen anything and the numbers on the comp are drawing a blank. I've sent photos to kkk in the hope they can shed any light or il have to to some creative mods to get it to bolt on with a diaphragm from something else

mighty kitten

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Monday 11th April 2016
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Pulled it to bits and it its all good inside which is a bit of s bummer but with my glasses on I can see a hole where I'd stuck a Tig rod to plug the "leak "


Close inspection of the other one and a quick twiddle with a 2mm drill bit and it's the same so bit of a boo boo pulling the other one to bits but it will crimp back together with a bit of a tool to crush it in the vice .
Upshot is they have a bleed orifice and even with the preload backed right off they crack at 11 psi which is too much so the holes need plugging properly to bring it down to 7 psi

mighty kitten

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Monday 11th April 2016
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Lucky escape there and bleed holes tapped to m3.5 and plugged . 7.5 psi and fully open at 10 psi .




mighty kitten

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Tuesday 12th April 2016
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The bleed holes are 0.3mm and They came from a company doing r+d on turbos so most likely these were prototypes for something that never materialised as none of the numbers make any sense to kkk . Comp side is Porsche 944 turbo so late eighties but turbine housings are still a mystery .

mighty kitten

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Tuesday 12th April 2016
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Microsquirt with edis 8 ignition and Saab 345cc injectors.
Set myself a budget of £150 max spend per month 3 1/2,years ago and 5k later turned this


Into this



No intercooler but has water meth and its stock 10-1 comp so 8 lb to start with and maybe more with the meth as the air flow around the motor seems to be doing some intercooling

mighty kitten

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Saturday 16th April 2016
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Il know more at the end of the month when it's on the Dyno . Stock compression is going to be the issue more than turbo size and I've booked a day to do it so we can get some road testing in as I have some intercooling from the airflow over the engine and turbos so the Dyno might produce lower results ,

I think I'm a bit lighter than a cobra at 860kg with fuel and driver so I just want a very safe tune with 7-10 psi . i don't seem to need to use boost very much but I'm sure that will change once it's safe to wring it's neck .


mighty kitten

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Saturday 16th April 2016
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Weather turned out to be good so grabbed try Laptop and a mate and went out for a few hours . Very conservative ign map and in the 11,s in boost its a different car at 7psi with both blowers behaving properly . Worked up to 6k in boost and sounds happy with air temp peaking at 50c at 6000 rpm . Im looking at adding a second air temp to the inlet manifold to see what effect the meth has and put an led in the dash so I can see when it's triggered

mighty kitten

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Sunday 17th April 2016
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The water meth jet is after the ecu ait so it will see what's actually happening . ive set the protection at 70c to bring in the soft rev limiter but it's got nowhere near yet and the meth is triggered at 50c with some hysteresis so I doubt it's sprayed yet .

mighty kitten

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Sunday 17th April 2016
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Pulled the trigger temp down to 50 c and Tps to 40% as I'm not really needing much to spool it to 7 psi ,
Blowers and manifolds off today to give them a good rub on a machined block as they're both chuffing a little now they've been heat cycled for a few weeks

mighty kitten

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Monday 18th April 2016
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unless you have some sort of interface to see what the Lexus ecu is doing its going to be a shot in the dark getting it tuned safely and why I went with aftermarket although very basic ecu . Just getting rid of the std manifolds will net 30+ hp on the 1 uzfe .
Starting my build now I doubt I would bother with turbos as the car is light enough and the torque available is always enough without any boost to scoot along on public roads ,

mighty kitten

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Sunday 1st May 2016
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Just to wrap this up I took the car over to Bailey performance on Saturday and before adding the meth /water we got 350/380 lb ft at 8 psi and 14 deg advance all in . Meth spray didn't add any power neither did a bit more ignition so the only way up is boost but it's more than enough for now .