which engine-trans combo you suggest?????
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Hello everybody, my name is George and Im located in Europe.
I would like to start building a super-car style car and Im on a research,
in order to find out which engine-transmission combination is good for my project....
About a recent super-car style model, that are V8 or V12 midengined RWD semi automatic
instead of using original engine set (cause I don't have the money for that)
they had suggested me to install a GM 5.3L LS4 engine (that I can find it on the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP).
It's on 303hp, that can arrive to 650hp with some modifications and besides that,
it has transmission that has automatic or paddles shift mode,
I can set it on the rear wheels of the car without changing or modyfing anything
and by this way, gives the effect of a real super-car.....hahahah.....
But besides that, do you have any other option to suggest me?
And if in case,
I would like to build an older super-car concept,
that have V8 or V12 engines with manual transmission,
which combo you suggest?
for example: Pagani Zonda has a V12 S600 Mercedes-Benz engine....
(I think it's the W120 model) that it's a very good option
but I don't know on which transmission I could fit it on.....
P.S
Im looking for the best value for money in low prices,
and besides that I would like to avoid to manufacture adapters and etc...etc...
Thanx for your atention,
waiting your replies
I would like to start building a super-car style car and Im on a research,
in order to find out which engine-transmission combination is good for my project....
About a recent super-car style model, that are V8 or V12 midengined RWD semi automatic
instead of using original engine set (cause I don't have the money for that)
they had suggested me to install a GM 5.3L LS4 engine (that I can find it on the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP).
It's on 303hp, that can arrive to 650hp with some modifications and besides that,
it has transmission that has automatic or paddles shift mode,
I can set it on the rear wheels of the car without changing or modyfing anything
and by this way, gives the effect of a real super-car.....hahahah.....
But besides that, do you have any other option to suggest me?
And if in case,
I would like to build an older super-car concept,
that have V8 or V12 engines with manual transmission,
which combo you suggest?
for example: Pagani Zonda has a V12 S600 Mercedes-Benz engine....
(I think it's the W120 model) that it's a very good option
but I don't know on which transmission I could fit it on.....
P.S
Im looking for the best value for money in low prices,
and besides that I would like to avoid to manufacture adapters and etc...etc...
Thanx for your atention,
waiting your replies
Edited by George75 on Monday 11th April 15:39
All the answers are cheap so far and I thank you very much for your interest my friends.
The only thing is, that beside the last answer, all the others are for manual.
The Hilly's option sounds very interesting for manual...
And of course I prefer another option besides Pontiac, because I can not find these parts in Europe and that's why I'm asking you If there is any other option,but I'm talking about a Mid engined RWD set up that will have automatic mode and paddle shift mode also....
The only thing is, that beside the last answer, all the others are for manual.
The Hilly's option sounds very interesting for manual...
And of course I prefer another option besides Pontiac, because I can not find these parts in Europe and that's why I'm asking you If there is any other option,but I'm talking about a Mid engined RWD set up that will have automatic mode and paddle shift mode also....
stevieturbo said:
Every single one of the suggestions so far are for mid engine rwd setups.
So you want an actual automatic transmission ? If you're after anything fancier, again you're beyond the scope of both simple and cheap.
No doubt there will be Audi's out there with auto boxes....but most will have some form of electronic control which will mean you probably need the entire car to get all wiring and controllers from them.
thanx Stevie for your answer,So you want an actual automatic transmission ? If you're after anything fancier, again you're beyond the scope of both simple and cheap.
No doubt there will be Audi's out there with auto boxes....but most will have some form of electronic control which will mean you probably need the entire car to get all wiring and controllers from them.
I don't have a problem if it is an Audi, with auto box (Im a fun of the German technology),and I could buy the rest of the parts that you suggest, but will these sets, with the automatic trans,
will have also paddle shift mode? (always for a mid RWD....)?
Edited by George75 on Wednesday 13th April 01:26
Edited by George75 on Wednesday 13th April 01:27
PositronicRay said:
4.2s were all quattro. However you may be able to hook a 4.2 up to a 3.7 trans.
2.8 v6s were just under 200bhp, 3.7 v8s were about 260bhp, 4.2s around 300bhp
ok, we can hook an Audi A8 4.2L engine to a 3.7 trans....2.8 v6s were just under 200bhp, 3.7 v8s were about 260bhp, 4.2s around 300bhp
will it be a mid RWD set up?
the trans you suggest is the ZF 6HP26 tiptronic,right? are these two together,work for mid- RWD???
Edited by George75 on Wednesday 13th April 01:24
Edited by George75 on Wednesday 13th April 01:28
Edited by George75 on Wednesday 13th April 01:29
Fastdruid said:
It's not advised. To "convert" the quattro 01E to 2wd you weld up the centre diff. That however doesn't make it equivalent to the 2wd 01E as the hollow input shaft of the quattro is not as strong as the solid one on the 2wd. After all it's only designed to take half the torque. It's also sticks the engine *way* higher than the G50 (or UN1, although that's not as "strong") and isn't invertible like the UN1 and G50.
Anyway my advice is go with what everyone else does. LS and gearbox of choice. I say this as someone who has gone off the beaten track and the trouble is that while you might find the engine cheap the additional costs and grief ramp up. An LS engine with a transaxle in a mid-engined RWD car is a solved problem. You can buy it off the shelf. You have people with experience with doing it.
Trying to get for example a modern FSI Audi working with an autobox and you are looking at a world of hurt and a mass of costs.
which semi auto trans with paddle shift mode can fit on an LS engine?Anyway my advice is go with what everyone else does. LS and gearbox of choice. I say this as someone who has gone off the beaten track and the trouble is that while you might find the engine cheap the additional costs and grief ramp up. An LS engine with a transaxle in a mid-engined RWD car is a solved problem. You can buy it off the shelf. You have people with experience with doing it.
Trying to get for example a modern FSI Audi working with an autobox and you are looking at a world of hurt and a mass of costs.
and on which LS engine?
what about the engine of Pagani Zonda?
As far as I know, Zonda was using the engine of the Mercendes-Benz V12 S600
I think is the W120 edition but Im not sure....
and in the begining,
the cars were manual and afterword they were DCT....
does anyone knows, which tranny they are using?
for the manual or the DCT ?
As far as I know, Zonda was using the engine of the Mercendes-Benz V12 S600
I think is the W120 edition but Im not sure....
and in the begining,
the cars were manual and afterword they were DCT....
does anyone knows, which tranny they are using?
for the manual or the DCT ?
stevieturbo said:
So...from a cheap simple LS....to a Pagani Zonda engine ?
Then from a manual to an auto and maybe back to a manual again ?
So is the engine/drivetrain to be a £5k build...10k build...50k build...100k build ?
Yes, unfortunatelly I haven't decited yet, if the kit car Im gonna build,Then from a manual to an auto and maybe back to a manual again ?
So is the engine/drivetrain to be a £5k build...10k build...50k build...100k build ?
it's gonna be manual or a recent model that has DCT or semi-auto tranny....
By the way, the S600 engine we can purchase it with a couple of thousand of euros from e-bay.....
it's not very expensive, that's why Im intresting on that....
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