Electric Assisted Turbocharger
Discussion
I am currently at uni studying Mechanical Engineering. I was wondering what people thought about the idea of introducing an electrical motor or a motor/generator unit ( similar to the system used in the current generation of TC'd F1 cars) at the shaft of a turbocharger for current downsized TC'd petrol driven engines, with the focus on being able to improve the engines transient response with a quicker spool up time.
Would it be possible to introduce such system while still being able to keep the standard 12V battery system, as opposed to switching to a 48V system as some manufacturers are now turning to? I know with a high powered turbo the required power would definitely not be able to run on a 12V system, but if the focus is on a smaller engine (1.0-1.6l) using a small turbo, could this be feasible to use within affordable vehicles?
The work I have currently seen tends to be focused on high powered diesel engines (SQ7) and on high end vehicles (Bentayga), but I cannot find much work revolving around smaller engines. I would like to find out if I am wasting my time, and should maybe focus on bringing such system to slightly larger engines.
Thanks
Would it be possible to introduce such system while still being able to keep the standard 12V battery system, as opposed to switching to a 48V system as some manufacturers are now turning to? I know with a high powered turbo the required power would definitely not be able to run on a 12V system, but if the focus is on a smaller engine (1.0-1.6l) using a small turbo, could this be feasible to use within affordable vehicles?
The work I have currently seen tends to be focused on high powered diesel engines (SQ7) and on high end vehicles (Bentayga), but I cannot find much work revolving around smaller engines. I would like to find out if I am wasting my time, and should maybe focus on bringing such system to slightly larger engines.
Thanks
Edited by pogba on Tuesday 12th April 17:59
Thanks for your reply!
Could you give me some help with 2.) please, I am struggling to figure out how to calculate an approximation for the power a turbo would consume.
As I want to focus on small downsized engines, I will use a max value similar to a ford ecoboost turbo - 250,000 rpm....I know power is dependent on torque and rpm, then I am stuck...
Should I be looking at the power consumed by the turbo in terms of power a turbine will extract from exhaust gasses? or is that over complicating it and I should be looking at how much power is required to simply spin a turbine ?
If it is the latter, could you possibly throw some common turbo turbine dimensions/weights at me in regards to a similar one used in the ford 1.0l ecoboost?
So find the torque first, then find the power value in hp using- rpm*T/5252, then convert this into kW, right?
I realise this is probably really simple, so I apologise for my dopiness
Could you give me some help with 2.) please, I am struggling to figure out how to calculate an approximation for the power a turbo would consume.
As I want to focus on small downsized engines, I will use a max value similar to a ford ecoboost turbo - 250,000 rpm....I know power is dependent on torque and rpm, then I am stuck...
Should I be looking at the power consumed by the turbo in terms of power a turbine will extract from exhaust gasses? or is that over complicating it and I should be looking at how much power is required to simply spin a turbine ?
If it is the latter, could you possibly throw some common turbo turbine dimensions/weights at me in regards to a similar one used in the ford 1.0l ecoboost?
So find the torque first, then find the power value in hp using- rpm*T/5252, then convert this into kW, right?
I realise this is probably really simple, so I apologise for my dopiness
Edited by pogba on Thursday 14th April 03:17
Edited by pogba on Thursday 14th April 04:47
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