Nearly side swiped earlier
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Had to brake hard or the car would have been side swiped, you stupid woman!!!!
https://vimeo.com/106851667
https://vimeo.com/106851667
I think we've all been there, but if she does it to you again tomorrow.... 
The road is a 50 limit at that point and is not 70 until half a mile up the road, I had moved over into the outside lane doing 50mph to allow other cars from the left to merge onto the inside lane, I did have my eye on the van all the time just incase it did pull straight over, I did add a little throttle but soon let off when there was an incling that it could just pull straight into my lane, when she carried on coming into my lane I then had to avoiding action, I personally think she was totally in the wrong and she was lucky that I was in full control of her bad driving.
For the past 39 years of every working day I have negotiated the exact move she was doing as that is the route I would normally take to get home and I always look over my right shoulder to check, she didn't, That evening I had to post a letter and had to take a slightly different route home.
For the past 39 years of every working day I have negotiated the exact move she was doing as that is the route I would normally take to get home and I always look over my right shoulder to check, she didn't, That evening I had to post a letter and had to take a slightly different route home.
Edited by snowwolf on Tuesday 23 September 17:58
I am quite a mild mannered person and when I did get beside the van and see it was a young woman driver I didn't make any make any verbal or bodily suggestions, I will go and get the memory card out the car now and if it's not been recorded over I can give you that proof as it also has an inside facing camera!
V8HSV600HP said:
If you are in the outside lane ...It is still your responsibility to slow down to let the vehicles on to the carriage way. It is 70MPH for a reason on motorways. I know you were doing less than 50 MPH at the time. Their speed was faster then yours, so why did you speed up as both smaller vehicles entered the motor way?"
I never wrote he was doing 70mph.* I could see he was doing under 48 mph. at the beginning by the end he was doing over *63 mph see my point. (50mph limit) He reduced by 3 mph when he saw the van change lane. Snowolf accelerated when he saw the vehicles? He was behind the vehicle(van) coming onto the dual carriage way. Look at the figures on his own video. If he kept at 50 or less she would never have been so close to him. He actually attributed to the potential collision. Because he closed the gap by trying to accelerate past.
They, the Clancy van and snowwolf were both 50/50 responsible. He should have seen the problem earlier instead of accelerating.
Look at the video again please.
That is my respectful opinion. My ex police driver instructor taught me well and wisely to read vehicle movement. It is what kept me alive all these years. I do not mean any harm to anyone, it is my opinion.
everyone survived to live another day.
PS I wonder how much grief you gave her as you drove past her. Shame we do not see that on the video.
I never wrote he was doing 70mph.* I could see he was doing under 48 mph. at the beginning by the end he was doing over *63 mph see my point. (50mph limit) He reduced by 3 mph when he saw the van change lane. Snowolf accelerated when he saw the vehicles? He was behind the vehicle(van) coming onto the dual carriage way. Look at the figures on his own video. If he kept at 50 or less she would never have been so close to him. He actually attributed to the potential collision. Because he closed the gap by trying to accelerate past.
They, the Clancy van and snowwolf were both 50/50 responsible. He should have seen the problem earlier instead of accelerating.
Look at the video again please.
That is my respectful opinion. My ex police driver instructor taught me well and wisely to read vehicle movement. It is what kept me alive all these years. I do not mean any harm to anyone, it is my opinion.
everyone survived to live another day.PS I wonder how much grief you gave her as you drove past her. Shame we do not see that on the video.
You shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush, in your words
"PS I wonder how much grief you gave her as you drove past her. Shame we do not see that on the video"
I glanced over as I passed, as you can see I was below the speed limit of 70
https://vimeo.com/106956733
"PS I wonder how much grief you gave her as you drove past her. Shame we do not see that on the video"
I glanced over as I passed, as you can see I was below the speed limit of 70
https://vimeo.com/106956733
Edited by snowwolf on Tuesday 23 September 19:03
ARAF said:
I quite agree. Driving without due care and attention (on her part), and it was your defensive driving that avoided an accident.
Very easy to say what you should have done after viewing the video one or more times, but hindsight doesn't happen in real time.
You are dead right on that one ArafVery easy to say what you should have done after viewing the video one or more times, but hindsight doesn't happen in real time.
robbyd said:
Completely the van's fault - no-one could argue otherwise. But think what would have happened if you hadn't moved to L2 Mick!
I had a learner pull out from parked position on me a couple of weeks ago; brief indicator and go. Only after some horns when I was alongside to evade him did he stop, and apologised at the next junction... As someone said earlier, probably the last time they didn't check over shoulder...
Rob
Can understand Rob, when I glanced over and see it was a young lass and she had obviously known she had done a wrong un and knew I was next to her, I just thought that was a lesson to always look over her shoulder to check, and she probably will from now on, it may have been different if it had been a motorcyclist in my cars position ????I had a learner pull out from parked position on me a couple of weeks ago; brief indicator and go. Only after some horns when I was alongside to evade him did he stop, and apologised at the next junction... As someone said earlier, probably the last time they didn't check over shoulder...
Rob
ArnieVXR said:
Don't get me wrong Stiggy, I've seen the light when it comes to driving like a girl (must be one of the most sexist adverts in history). And I've learned it through experience,so I'm with you in that. It's just that no matter how hard I try, there's plenty of people out there who really don't.
I like the idea of being a thief (insurance). Sadly, most consumer insurance companies run a COR of 100%, which means that (after operating costs) they pay out everything they take in. So your lovely premiums end up paying for van drivers who don't look when they pull out.
As for 'the pigs', I'm guessing you hate them so much you'd not dial 999 if a burglar was in your house? And you don't see the irony in the conclusion that the (white people in the) Met Police are institutionally racist. Racism being the pre-judging of people based on the colour of their skin.
Staying on thread, that horn is cr*p.
Yes the horn is crap!!!! that's a must to change, I have never seen it, is it in the boot? LOLI like the idea of being a thief (insurance). Sadly, most consumer insurance companies run a COR of 100%, which means that (after operating costs) they pay out everything they take in. So your lovely premiums end up paying for van drivers who don't look when they pull out.
As for 'the pigs', I'm guessing you hate them so much you'd not dial 999 if a burglar was in your house? And you don't see the irony in the conclusion that the (white people in the) Met Police are institutionally racist. Racism being the pre-judging of people based on the colour of their skin.
Staying on thread, that horn is cr*p.
I see all the key points when I was approaching that junction, use it every day so quite aware of all the idiotic movements that happen there, the Clancy van was always top of my list, I thought the van was going to stay in the inside lane that's why I started to accelerate, which was very briefly because I was more aware the driver did not know I was there, I also knew there was no one behind if I needed to brake, which I did as the van veered sharply to get in outside lane.
Just like to point out, its far easier to see all what was going to happen in the video as you all knew what is going to happen because of the header, but at the end of the day she did not do what we were all preached at "Mirror Signal Manoeuvre" but if you have blind spots look over your shoulder, she didn't
Just like to point out, its far easier to see all what was going to happen in the video as you all knew what is going to happen because of the header, but at the end of the day she did not do what we were all preached at "Mirror Signal Manoeuvre" but if you have blind spots look over your shoulder, she didn't
Aldi drivers are 
s anyway so that's very typical of what you had happen to you Wigan
s anyway so that's very typical of what you had happen to you Wigan wiganhsv said:
drivers these days just drive in a little bubble and aren't aware of what is around them, you see it when people are in the middle and 3rd lane, no idea of the traffic around them, they just see the car in front, and not looking through the car in fronts window to see the rest of the traffic, or use their mirrors to see what is behind. This happened to me on Friday when i was driving people to church,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4a9V35zOI&li...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4a9V35zOI&li...
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