Is a cam upgrade worth the money?
Discussion
blue666uk said:
When you say full exhaust, I assume you mean headers as well, as they're a must to get the full benefit of the cam. Otherwise, with full exhaust and uprated cold air intake, you already appear to have most of the supporting mods, so if thats you're bag, go for it, I very much doubt you'll regret it. You could get a FAST intake as well, but thats small beer in terms of gains, over the other mods and the cam itself (though it does give some tasty engine bay bling).
Although I have a cam, I can't really comment subjectively on the difference it makes solo as I also had a lot of other stuff done at the same time, but know those that have gone that route, generally haven't regretted it, especially if you go for the more aggressive cam option.
Thanks for the response.Although I have a cam, I can't really comment subjectively on the difference it makes solo as I also had a lot of other stuff done at the same time, but know those that have gone that route, generally haven't regretted it, especially if you go for the more aggressive cam option.
That's right I have the headers.
So what's the deal? More low end torque and a decent idle sound?
How much did you pay to have it done and where?
Phillphill said:
How good with spanners are you?
How lairy do you want a cam?
Are you planning on doing anything else?
Realistic prices are (if you can install yourself - it isn't overall a difficult either, more time consuming)
Tune/mapping - you NEED this, car will fire up after install and run but it must be mapped. Depending where you are and how far you can travel (not far on a untuned car). For example Wortec can map for iirc £550 + vat
Most tuning shops in the USA do deals on cam kits, giving you everything you will need to change the cam.
For example a cam (most are made by Comp to each shops own specs) are $175-$300
Valve springs (you must change depening on specs) are anywhere from $100-$300
You will need new pushrods these are normally about $70-$80
You will want a new crank seal, crank bolt and waterpump gaskets which are a few bucks.
shop around, most of the shops will help out including your shipping. TSP, Maryland, Speedinc are a few, Summit racing are helpful too
Some may disagree but I would change the Oil pump if you are a higer mileage engine given your 90% of the way there to do so and also the timing chain.
You can simply swap cams without doing the pump and chain
I swapped my cam out last year, I went for a Speedinc SI5 cam, its a good size 231/237 with .595 lift.
Heres the sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ddO7M_pE8
Totally transformed the car, and a mega hot day dyno pull it put down 450hp/480ftlb. The rest of the mods on the car were an old K&N, AAS headers and half a Wortec exhaust as one silencer had fallen off!
Cams make a big difference, yes you have improved power and future modifications like heads/fast intake will help improve those power gains but the characteristics of the car change too (for the better), the sound and how the power is delivered
You need to think about your budget and where you want the power modifications to progress too. I ran my car with just the cam for around 6 months and I have now bought heads and a Fast 102 to help bring the power up more (its addictive)
There are good deals out there for heads and cam packages too
Hope that makes sense!
Thanks. Can you send me links or names of places that will do these deals?How lairy do you want a cam?
Are you planning on doing anything else?
Realistic prices are (if you can install yourself - it isn't overall a difficult either, more time consuming)
Tune/mapping - you NEED this, car will fire up after install and run but it must be mapped. Depending where you are and how far you can travel (not far on a untuned car). For example Wortec can map for iirc £550 + vat
Most tuning shops in the USA do deals on cam kits, giving you everything you will need to change the cam.
For example a cam (most are made by Comp to each shops own specs) are $175-$300
Valve springs (you must change depening on specs) are anywhere from $100-$300
You will need new pushrods these are normally about $70-$80
You will want a new crank seal, crank bolt and waterpump gaskets which are a few bucks.
shop around, most of the shops will help out including your shipping. TSP, Maryland, Speedinc are a few, Summit racing are helpful too
Some may disagree but I would change the Oil pump if you are a higer mileage engine given your 90% of the way there to do so and also the timing chain.
You can simply swap cams without doing the pump and chain
I swapped my cam out last year, I went for a Speedinc SI5 cam, its a good size 231/237 with .595 lift.
Heres the sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ddO7M_pE8
Totally transformed the car, and a mega hot day dyno pull it put down 450hp/480ftlb. The rest of the mods on the car were an old K&N, AAS headers and half a Wortec exhaust as one silencer had fallen off!
Cams make a big difference, yes you have improved power and future modifications like heads/fast intake will help improve those power gains but the characteristics of the car change too (for the better), the sound and how the power is delivered
You need to think about your budget and where you want the power modifications to progress too. I ran my car with just the cam for around 6 months and I have now bought heads and a Fast 102 to help bring the power up more (its addictive)
There are good deals out there for heads and cam packages too
Hope that makes sense!
Phillphill said:
How good with spanners are you?
How lairy do you want a cam?
Are you planning on doing anything else?
Realistic prices are (if you can install yourself - it isn't overall a difficult either, more time consuming)
Tune/mapping - you NEED this, car will fire up after install and run but it must be mapped. Depending where you are and how far you can travel (not far on a untuned car). For example Wortec can map for iirc £550 + vat
Most tuning shops in the USA do deals on cam kits, giving you everything you will need to change the cam.
For example a cam (most are made by Comp to each shops own specs) are $175-$300
Valve springs (you must change depening on specs) are anywhere from $100-$300
You will need new pushrods these are normally about $70-$80
You will want a new crank seal, crank bolt and waterpump gaskets which are a few bucks.
shop around, most of the shops will help out including your shipping. TSP, Maryland, Speedinc are a few, Summit racing are helpful too
Some may disagree but I would change the Oil pump if you are a higer mileage engine given your 90% of the way there to do so and also the timing chain.
You can simply swap cams without doing the pump and chain
I swapped my cam out last year, I went for a Speedinc SI5 cam, its a good size 231/237 with .595 lift.
Heres the sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ddO7M_pE8
Totally transformed the car, and a mega hot day dyno pull it put down 450hp/480ftlb. The rest of the mods on the car were an old K&N, AAS headers and half a Wortec exhaust as one silencer had fallen off!
Cams make a big difference, yes you have improved power and future modifications like heads/fast intake will help improve those power gains but the characteristics of the car change too (for the better), the sound and how the power is delivered
You need to think about your budget and where you want the power modifications to progress too. I ran my car with just the cam for around 6 months and I have now bought heads and a Fast 102 to help bring the power up more (its addictive)
There are good deals out there for heads and cam packages too
Hope that makes sense!
Thanks. Can you send me links or names of places that will do these deals?How lairy do you want a cam?
Are you planning on doing anything else?
Realistic prices are (if you can install yourself - it isn't overall a difficult either, more time consuming)
Tune/mapping - you NEED this, car will fire up after install and run but it must be mapped. Depending where you are and how far you can travel (not far on a untuned car). For example Wortec can map for iirc £550 + vat
Most tuning shops in the USA do deals on cam kits, giving you everything you will need to change the cam.
For example a cam (most are made by Comp to each shops own specs) are $175-$300
Valve springs (you must change depening on specs) are anywhere from $100-$300
You will need new pushrods these are normally about $70-$80
You will want a new crank seal, crank bolt and waterpump gaskets which are a few bucks.
shop around, most of the shops will help out including your shipping. TSP, Maryland, Speedinc are a few, Summit racing are helpful too
Some may disagree but I would change the Oil pump if you are a higer mileage engine given your 90% of the way there to do so and also the timing chain.
You can simply swap cams without doing the pump and chain
I swapped my cam out last year, I went for a Speedinc SI5 cam, its a good size 231/237 with .595 lift.
Heres the sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ddO7M_pE8
Totally transformed the car, and a mega hot day dyno pull it put down 450hp/480ftlb. The rest of the mods on the car were an old K&N, AAS headers and half a Wortec exhaust as one silencer had fallen off!
Cams make a big difference, yes you have improved power and future modifications like heads/fast intake will help improve those power gains but the characteristics of the car change too (for the better), the sound and how the power is delivered
You need to think about your budget and where you want the power modifications to progress too. I ran my car with just the cam for around 6 months and I have now bought heads and a Fast 102 to help bring the power up more (its addictive)
There are good deals out there for heads and cam packages too
Hope that makes sense!
xover said:
Phillphill said:
How good with spanners are you?
How lairy do you want a cam?
Are you planning on doing anything else?
Realistic prices are (if you can install yourself - it isn't overall a difficult either, more time consuming)
Tune/mapping - you NEED this, car will fire up after install and run but it must be mapped. Depending where you are and how far you can travel (not far on a untuned car). For example Wortec can map for iirc £550 + vat
Most tuning shops in the USA do deals on cam kits, giving you everything you will need to change the cam.
For example a cam (most are made by Comp to each shops own specs) are $175-$300
Valve springs (you must change depening on specs) are anywhere from $100-$300
You will need new pushrods these are normally about $70-$80
You will want a new crank seal, crank bolt and waterpump gaskets which are a few bucks.
shop around, most of the shops will help out including your shipping. TSP, Maryland, Speedinc are a few, Summit racing are helpful too
Some may disagree but I would change the Oil pump if you are a higer mileage engine given your 90% of the way there to do so and also the timing chain.
You can simply swap cams without doing the pump and chain
I swapped my cam out last year, I went for a Speedinc SI5 cam, its a good size 231/237 with .595 lift.
Heres the sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ddO7M_pE8
Totally transformed the car, and a mega hot day dyno pull it put down 450hp/480ftlb. The rest of the mods on the car were an old K&N, AAS headers and half a Wortec exhaust as one silencer had fallen off!
Cams make a big difference, yes you have improved power and future modifications like heads/fast intake will help improve those power gains but the characteristics of the car change too (for the better), the sound and how the power is delivered
You need to think about your budget and where you want the power modifications to progress too. I ran my car with just the cam for around 6 months and I have now bought heads and a Fast 102 to help bring the power up more (its addictive)
There are good deals out there for heads and cam packages too
Hope that makes sense!
Thanks. Can you send me links or names of places that will do these deals?How lairy do you want a cam?
Are you planning on doing anything else?
Realistic prices are (if you can install yourself - it isn't overall a difficult either, more time consuming)
Tune/mapping - you NEED this, car will fire up after install and run but it must be mapped. Depending where you are and how far you can travel (not far on a untuned car). For example Wortec can map for iirc £550 + vat
Most tuning shops in the USA do deals on cam kits, giving you everything you will need to change the cam.
For example a cam (most are made by Comp to each shops own specs) are $175-$300
Valve springs (you must change depening on specs) are anywhere from $100-$300
You will need new pushrods these are normally about $70-$80
You will want a new crank seal, crank bolt and waterpump gaskets which are a few bucks.
shop around, most of the shops will help out including your shipping. TSP, Maryland, Speedinc are a few, Summit racing are helpful too
Some may disagree but I would change the Oil pump if you are a higer mileage engine given your 90% of the way there to do so and also the timing chain.
You can simply swap cams without doing the pump and chain
I swapped my cam out last year, I went for a Speedinc SI5 cam, its a good size 231/237 with .595 lift.
Heres the sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ddO7M_pE8
Totally transformed the car, and a mega hot day dyno pull it put down 450hp/480ftlb. The rest of the mods on the car were an old K&N, AAS headers and half a Wortec exhaust as one silencer had fallen off!
Cams make a big difference, yes you have improved power and future modifications like heads/fast intake will help improve those power gains but the characteristics of the car change too (for the better), the sound and how the power is delivered
You need to think about your budget and where you want the power modifications to progress too. I ran my car with just the cam for around 6 months and I have now bought heads and a Fast 102 to help bring the power up more (its addictive)
There are good deals out there for heads and cam packages too
Hope that makes sense!
I have the tools but not the space nor time to do it since I live in a city.
How many hours does it take to fit the cam?
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