£52,500 SAGARIS

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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3580887.htm

very nice

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Lensey said:

£52k though?

I know it's a Bargain I much prefer it to the one they sold for £52k, the shame about cars like this though is they won't be used on the road but kept as investments,

speaking to the guys at TrackVRoad a lot of buyers of Sags now are more interested in storing them as investments rather than driving them which will only push prices higher and out of the reach of real TVR fans.

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JxT said:

alex_gray255 said:

Err... Well, I was told by a dealer that they expected them to hit 60k end of year. They have more than enough people after them

I think we'll see them go that high, agreed, but I dont think the whole market will shift up by £10k - £15k. I think it'll only be the c. 10 - 15 really good examples, low mileage and mint, which will go up and up for people who want to keep them as investments...

so what would a higher mileage Sag that has had no expense spared that's also just had a full respray and a 4.5 Supersport upgrade with 5 year warranty be worth?

I'd say it would be worth much more than the low mileage standard Cars that sell for £50k+

Edited by SAGRIFF on Thursday 26th January 18:04

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JonRB said:

SAGRIFF said:

so what would a higher mileage Sag that has had no expense spared that's also just had a full respray and a 4.5 Supersport upgrade with 5 year warranty be worth?

I'd say it would be worth much more than the low mileage standard Cars that sell for £50k+

You know it is the better bet, I know it is the better bet, but investors are obsessed with mileage. It's crazy but true.

I would rather pay £35/40k for a mechanical sound Sag thats been used rather than £50k+ for one that's been standing around for months on end,

then you still have £15k in your pocket for a rebuild/upgrade and a full respray, but more importantly you have more fun using it without worrying about stone chips, mileage.

Plus IMHO after the engine upgrade/warranty/new paint job the car would be worth £60k +

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TOV!E said:

Are you sure that most have had rebuilds, i thought these new engines were o.k.

mine is still going strong and 50k+, just can't stop driving it, maybe that's the trick to preventing rebuilds

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TVR_owner said:

Anyone with a really mint car that is happy to accept 45k please em me, but don't waste our time badly describing a very average car as anything else.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3574660.htm

this one was in fantastic condition when I was last at TrackVRoad before it sold not long ago, it's now back up for sale though i very much doubt they will drop the price,

Good luck finding a mint one with low miles for £45k

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TVR_owner said:

SAGRIFF said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3574660.htm

this one was in fantastic condition when I was last at TrackVRoad before it sold not long ago, it's now back up for sale though i very much doubt they will drop the price,

Good luck finding a mint one with low miles for £45k

Been and looked at it, Craig and Ian helped me have a good look at it, but.. doesn't fit the bill.

I'll find one, no rush. If it's a bit more, I'll pay more, but it must be very very good. Doesn't need to be at a dealer so the price becomes a little more realistic perhaps?

yes they did say you had been to look at one, didn't know it was this one, were you not keen on the colour/interior or was it something else?

maybe that sticker on it's rear

I know they sold the last 2 Sags at full price.

Edited by SAGRIFF on Friday 27th January 14:11

Edited by SAGRIFF on Friday 27th January 14:26

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sean j g said:

if people are buying them for investment why would it make any difference on time of year i understand they are a summer car and the market as a rule picks up toward the summer but as an investment surely it doesnt matter just my opinion i see these cars not achieving these type of prices specially in the current economic climate i hope i am wrong and jason does well with the cars he has and my old car as it is a good one!!! good luck jason and i know there are only around 160 sagaris left or there abouts but for a few grand more a gallardo or r8 etc would be more for me build quality etc that said i loved my sag and it is a lovely car!!!!

they sold this one for £52k,

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3209145.htm

I prefer your interior and yours has less miles, you didn't seem to do many miles in yours Sean,

as for a Gallardo or R8 i'd have a Sag over them any day unless it was a Superleggera and then you are talking £100k+,

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sean j g said:

having owned one for a while

you may have owned one for a while but judging by the mileage it had on it when it was at CN to the mileage on it now you never drove it

I think all TVR speed six engined cars will now start appreciating and especially so if TVR ever did get round to building new cars as they will be £100k+ and have mass produced crate engines in em,

all the bespoke TVR speed six engined cars will become very desirable in a few years.

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ray von said:

YRRunner said:

TOV!E said:

They won't".......There, its been said, (holds breath for insults)

Why don't Tuscan 2s full converts like mine make this sort of money, as they are less common than the saggy. And faster....

Coz no one really, truly likes the convertibles. My best mate had the choice of a few T2S's and elected to go with the Targa. It's a much nicer shape. In many peoples opinion, the drophead killed the lines of the Tuscan. TvR just sold their Spectraflair T2S Targa, but haven't been able to move the claret T2S Convert. And BTW, the values on 2005- T2S's have been rising steadily recently, just not quite as aggressively as the Sagaris. The Sag is the Sag. Yes more made than T2S's, but you have to compare how many Sags you're going to see on the road, compared to how many Tuscans (of all derivatives). I'll get my coat!

Don't think that's true. I've just picked the Sag up from HHC and they've got some in that are stunning. Must admit the 'wavey' dashboard sets them off. I could be tempted by a convertible very easily.

I agree, the T2 converts are beautiful, they will rocket in price in a few years.

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I went to see this car at CN, I'm sure it had over 5k on it then, sorry if i'm wrong.

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Seems the Griffith 500 is also doing well, according to this thread a 500 LE sold for £40k

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

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YRRunner said:

sean j g said:

i bought the car dec-2010 with 3200miles sold it nov-2011 with 5800miles 2600 in 11 months so i drove it a lot it was the previous owner who didnt drive it!!!!

2,600 miles in 11 months!!! Poor thing, you never even gave it a chance. Too loose and wild for you I guess, compared to the Noble

I do that mileage in a week on a Nurburgring trip

Edited by SAGRIFF on Saturday 28th January 22:05

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TVR_owner said:

I’m an enthusiast that likes to own mint unmolested examples of the marque,

they won't be that quick on track then

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TVR_owner said:

I find it a bit sad that on so many TVR PH posts now, one of the biggest focuses of attention is the perceived future value of the cars. Have we changed what we want from our cars becuase they seem to be bucking a trend?

Lets hope not.

as a Sag owner it's nice to know they are appreciating, it's not the be all and end all but it's good to know, though with running/servicing costs of cars that are used like mine it's peanuts compared to what I spend on it.

Edited by SAGRIFF on Sunday 29th January 10:42

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TVR_owner said:

SAGRIFF said:

they won't be that quick on track then

You're always welcome to try and stay in touch

how did you sort out the fuel starvation problems when on track, strange how TVR marketed the Sagaris as a more track focussed car but only fitted 1 fuel pick up especially when the T350 had 2,

I also had issues when I first got mine regarding set up, I didn't like the standard dampers/spring rates on track so fitted Nitrons but then couldn't get a decent set up I liked on track until I upped the spring rates,

because of these issues (to be fair my set up issues were down to my inexperience) my Sag was nearly 5 seconds a lap slower than my Griff 500 around Oulton, even your old sparring partner "the pie man" was quicker than me.......

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sean j g said:

but mate the noble was in a different league to sag!!!! , build quality, i had s--t on the tvr in all departments

I did laugh out loud when I read that, a good friend of mine had a M12 and it spent more time in Chris Neils garage than his

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Sags selling like hot cakes

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3505193.htm

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Does seem that any Sag them or TrackVRoad have sells quickly, I suppose it's the piece of mind you get from these TVR indys,

where cars being sold buy non TVR specialists don't seem to sell.

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JxT said:

Targarama said:

Of course we'd never hear if the McLaren or Lamborghini broke down, can't ridicule them!

I love the M600, pity it is £100k too expensive for my wallet though!

Exactly. If Top Gear, Evo, etc tell us about some brands' cars breaking, then they will never get another Ferrari / Lambo / etc to test..... its the unwritten rule.

Chris Harris' Jalopnik article comes to mind...

http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

I hope the M600 sells a decent amount... its a proper car, for proper enthusiasts, with the right level of electronic aids.

I remember years ago when I think it was 5th gear testing a Tamora and a Coxster, from memory the coxsters engine blew or something like that and the Tamora was faultless throughout the test, though they didn't make a big deal of the coxsters problems, just imagine if it had been the other way round.