V12 - how steady is she when cold?
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Been trying to help a fellow Rapide owner here as he doesn't think his car is running quite right and seems not to be getting much help from (continental) dealer: 'every engine is different sir'...
I'm not sure his car isn't running right really, and that this 'issue' is just a trait, so just asking fellow V12 owners if they too have an occasional surge or 'hunt' when the car is stone cold? I'm usually reversing out the garage with the door mirrors folded in with zero throttle when it blips from 900rpm to 1200rps now and again so this isn't helpful! But I just took it as a characteristic rather than a fault or issue...?
So... does your V12 think its stalling and blip the throttle for you when first stone cold now and again too?
Thanks
I'm not sure his car isn't running right really, and that this 'issue' is just a trait, so just asking fellow V12 owners if they too have an occasional surge or 'hunt' when the car is stone cold? I'm usually reversing out the garage with the door mirrors folded in with zero throttle when it blips from 900rpm to 1200rps now and again so this isn't helpful! But I just took it as a characteristic rather than a fault or issue...?
So... does your V12 think its stalling and blip the throttle for you when first stone cold now and again too?
Thanks
I know David's is a manual is yours a manual too Matt?
Also to help Pierre mine starts stone cold and runs at 1100rpm, is at 900 rpm within about 40" and then settles at below 750rpm when at operating temperature. Sound std? I will get a couple of hundred rpm surge now and again as I tap her into gear and the revs naturally drop due to torque converter drag - she may 'auto' blip it then so this could be down to autos and is std?
Also to help Pierre mine starts stone cold and runs at 1100rpm, is at 900 rpm within about 40" and then settles at below 750rpm when at operating temperature. Sound std? I will get a couple of hundred rpm surge now and again as I tap her into gear and the revs naturally drop due to torque converter drag - she may 'auto' blip it then so this could be down to autos and is std?
pete1212 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkfW3TutJoE&fe...
tomorrow i am getting it polished.
That is so definitely not right Pierre. Its about 90% more extreme than what mine does in increasing her revs 150-200rpm once for every one start-up in six maybe. I'll be watching her closely now though and annual service due so will ask them to have a look. If any Aston V12 feels 'rough' or lumpy then you are right to pursue this like you are as they are the smoothest engine you can buy!tomorrow i am getting it polished.
Edited by pete1212 on Monday 16th May 19:20
I also booked mine in for a pro polish and a CQuartz coating top up too
pete1212 said:
this is what the person said:
"But if I was you I would NOT use ceramic at all. I only use it for winter protection. For a car like AM and XK that is rarely driven, wax is MUCH better. It gives you the same benefits and is a pleasure to use.
Also Cquartz has a polish now that has the ceramic in it. In most show cars this is enough. And yes it has a very good shine more than any coating.
I recommend a good wax in your case."
"This is the alternative I was talking about.https://carpro.uk.com/collections/pa...cts/essence250
One thing to keep in mind about 2 year finishes like Cquartz is that you cant put anything on top of it like wax. And you eventually have to take it off, which requires a lot of polishing. It really meant for people who dont want to wax a car every 3 months. I want to! So I have some regrets about using Cquartz.
The way all these coatings work is simple. If you put pure nano ceramic on your car, it will fall off in a few washes. So they mix it with glue that sticks it to your car. The ceramic will fall off the glue too, but takes over a year. The glue stays longer and has to be removed by polishing."
"Incidentally, cquartz is Fantastic for wheels, you will never have difficulty cleaning brakedust off.
If you want show winning shine coatings are not for you. They are not bad, but they dont give that dripping wet look on Black cars that is so beautiful."
I bought a nano combining ceramic and wax, and it was dry, hard to apply, I gave up, i use the karnauba wax which is much more easy to apply.
O/T I hate waxing cars! I also find the paint soft on the Aston and easily marked. Ceramic coatings harden the surface to resist scratches and waxes from bees bums or palm trees do not I'm beyond delighted with the lasting shine, beading and results and low maintenance regime (just spray 'Reload' every 6 months). I also know an expensive wax can look amazing "But if I was you I would NOT use ceramic at all. I only use it for winter protection. For a car like AM and XK that is rarely driven, wax is MUCH better. It gives you the same benefits and is a pleasure to use.
Also Cquartz has a polish now that has the ceramic in it. In most show cars this is enough. And yes it has a very good shine more than any coating.
I recommend a good wax in your case."
"This is the alternative I was talking about.https://carpro.uk.com/collections/pa...cts/essence250
One thing to keep in mind about 2 year finishes like Cquartz is that you cant put anything on top of it like wax. And you eventually have to take it off, which requires a lot of polishing. It really meant for people who dont want to wax a car every 3 months. I want to! So I have some regrets about using Cquartz.
The way all these coatings work is simple. If you put pure nano ceramic on your car, it will fall off in a few washes. So they mix it with glue that sticks it to your car. The ceramic will fall off the glue too, but takes over a year. The glue stays longer and has to be removed by polishing."
"Incidentally, cquartz is Fantastic for wheels, you will never have difficulty cleaning brakedust off.
If you want show winning shine coatings are not for you. They are not bad, but they dont give that dripping wet look on Black cars that is so beautiful."
I bought a nano combining ceramic and wax, and it was dry, hard to apply, I gave up, i use the karnauba wax which is much more easy to apply.
Edited by pete1212 on Tuesday 17th May 07:21
Now what is this clack clack noise?
pete1212 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm0GeNFDouA&fe...
its this noise second 9 and 27. it happen with the AC off too when i start the car.
Is air con off?its this noise second 9 and 27. it happen with the AC off too when i start the car.
pete1212 said:
I will be curious to see your car after you do the c quartz, its a very cheap and light polish I will have done, it won't last, i may need to look at a c quartz , I have 4 or 5 spot where the paint s gone, very small but i rather have them fixed before a c quartz dont you have any?
There will always be marks on the car - Mclaren rear tyre added Welsh stone chips at the moment! Just touch up as best as possible. Here's a video of the CQuartz (quel coincidence )! This was shot about 18 months ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CER4wuvR36Q Shje's having a very light detail and top-up this week.Edited by pete1212 on Monday 23 May 18:09
Edited by Ken Figenus on Monday 23 May 21:16
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