EVO Test Manual V12S
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And from Xcar, video review ; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FMwp2bNBLv4
jonby said:
Agreed. Question is though, when you do master it, is it better, similar or worse than the box in V12V - I have no definitive opinion on the answer to that question, but my inclination from reading the reviews is that it's probably no better than V12V box
I love the coolness & quirkiness of dog leg boxes. I've enjoyed driving a couple of cars 20 odd yrs ago with such boxes. But as someone who already has a manual V12V, I've been a little underwhelmed by the reviews. Can't stress enough that until I drive one, I won't definitively have an opinion, because I disagree with most reviewers' condemnation of the V12VS flappy paddle box (which I have driven)
Dont think of it as a 7 speed, think 6 speed manual with two first gears.I love the coolness & quirkiness of dog leg boxes. I've enjoyed driving a couple of cars 20 odd yrs ago with such boxes. But as someone who already has a manual V12V, I've been a little underwhelmed by the reviews. Can't stress enough that until I drive one, I won't definitively have an opinion, because I disagree with most reviewers' condemnation of the V12VS flappy paddle box (which I have driven)
My DBS manual feels like it would be a better car if 2nd, 3rd and 4th were closer together, and that it seems is what the V12SM seems to be offering.More rowing!
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Seriously? Wouldn't you prefer a box that was silky smooth? Makes shifting a joy rather than a chore. I like boxes that allow you to instinctively slot into the proper gear without having to 'think' about it. No blown shifts, just enjoyable rowing.
Smooth yes.The instinctive part I think will come with time. I'm only guessing but I think most of the journalists reviewing the car were thinking too much about what gear they were in, and as a result not as smooth or direct as it could be or should be.
I always considered 2nd in my F40 as 1st and it worked a treat, that was gearbox that you had to learn to use, initially it was neither smooth or instinctive. Given time the whole process was smooth and instinctive, its just time.
I like to row my Defender, but friends drive it they ask how the hell its possible to drive smoothly! Its time in the seat.
Trying to justify the price is for me irrelevant.
Cars at the same price point? Car punching above its weight?
Rubbish. I have a 991 Turbo S and it is very fast, thing is to exploit that tech you need to driving the car as if you wanted kill yourself or other road users. It still lacks excitment.
So for the same money I can buy a monster V12 manual, its unique, along with a last hurrah!
If you try and look at it logically, its not for you.
But tech??
A Purdey shotgun hasnt changed much in nearly 100 years, its never needed too, even though technology has moved on.
Some cars are the same.
Cars at the same price point? Car punching above its weight?
Rubbish. I have a 991 Turbo S and it is very fast, thing is to exploit that tech you need to driving the car as if you wanted kill yourself or other road users. It still lacks excitment.
So for the same money I can buy a monster V12 manual, its unique, along with a last hurrah!
If you try and look at it logically, its not for you.
But tech??
A Purdey shotgun hasnt changed much in nearly 100 years, its never needed too, even though technology has moved on.
Some cars are the same.
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