E70 X5 - x30d vs. x40d vs. x50d

E70 X5 - x30d vs. x40d vs. x50d

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hygt2

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Saturday 23rd May 2015
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We are looking to buy a 7-seat version of the E70 X5 with a diesel engine.

Amongst the 3 engines (x30d, x40d and x50d), given they are all 3-litre diesel
1) which is the most reliable?
2) what are the servicing and repair costs for each of them?
3) what are the weak points of each engine?

I see the performance between the x30d and the x40d is quite similar, and then there is a big jump to the x50d. Given they are all 3-litre, I worry about the extra stresses on the internals (injectors, turbos, DMF, emission controllers, etc.)

We are looking at 4-6 year old cars at 40k-60k miles. We look to add another 120k miles on to it in 6 years, and see it as the end of life for the car. Is that reasonable?

Thanks in advance.

hygt2

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Fox- said:
The 50d started in 2012 and the cheapest are an eyewatering £40,000 (Which I can't see as being worth the money surely) so you are probably looking at the 30d and 40d.
True ... we saw an x50d at car giant which is advertised at £39,500. However, a 3L diesel pumping out 386 bhp seems a lot to me. My idea of a lower stress engine would be like my 996T, which is 3.6L giving 420 bhp, where at over 106k miles is still very healthy and reliable (compression tested at every plugs change, original turbos, etc.).

hygt2

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Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Wills2 said:
Even the 50d only has 168hp/tonne so not that powerful compared to its 2.3tonne curb weight, better off getting the 40d or even 30d and appreciate the space and comfort etc.....
Thanks all for replying. Sounds like the x40d 7-seater is the sensible choice to go for.

Anything specific I should look for if I buy at 40-60k miles and then adding 120k to it over the next 6 or so years, therefore reaching 160k-180k miles? What are the consumables like (price and longevity) beyond the standard servicing menus items? For example, air pump for suspension, all rubber bushes / control arms, ball joints, alternator, turbos, torque converter, autobox, shock absorbers, etc., etc.

Cost beyond the menu service price is a factor as I like all mechanical bits to be in tip top condition. On my 2003 170k W220 S320L CDi, my expectation is every time it goes into a specialist the invoice will be 4-figure as there is always something which is a bit worn.

hygt2

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Thursday 28th May 2015
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Thanks roofer and Cheib for your input. I am thinking not to have extended warranty on a BMW as I would be servicing it at a specialist, just like my S-Class and 996T now.

I ran my 996T with extended warranty up to 10 years old and the S-Class without warranty. Obviously on the 996T all the service and repair has to be done by OPC and all parts has to be genuine Porsche. For example, fitting a Bosch S5 battery instead of a Porsche branded one void the warranty, ditto (Pagid) brakes and (TRW) suspensions parts. Whereas on the Merc I use specialist and OEM parts. Tyres I always use N- / MO- rated on these cars.

Comparing the very long-term average annual costs, both costed about the same at c. £2,500 per year.

Would you kindly explain why AUC / extended BMW warranty at this stage please? Is there something I don't know about the F70 diesel's reliability?

(For example, I would never ran a M96/M97-engined 996/997 without an OPC warranty because of the probability of bore scoring, resulting in repair costs in excess of £8,000 + VAT)