Michelin Pilot Road 3 Update...

Michelin Pilot Road 3 Update...

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Mr OCD

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Wednesday 5th September 2012
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I cannot find the forum post I put up about using these tyres on my 03 5PW R1 ... the main reason for fitting them is that I do a vast amount of miles commuting so needed tyres that were up to sensible mileage yet provide plenty of grip on ride outs with the NW crew.

Now on the previous set of tyres (Dunlop Qualifiers) I got a lousy 3100 miles from the rear ... the front wasn't far behind ... that was when the bike was new to me therefore wasn't using its performance as I do these days... so I suspect a rear Qualifier would be good for around 2500 miles now in my hands...

So you can understand why I am absolutely amazed with the PR3's ... as this week they past 12,000 miles ... yes let me say that again.... TWELVE THOUSAND MILES ...

Don't get me wrong the front tyre is squirming around a bit over white lines, bad surfaces when on the brakes and you need a tiny bit more effort to get her to turn in but the tyres do not look squared off like previous rubber has done ...

Unbelievable to be honest... it looks like I will be buying another set biggrin

Mr OCD

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y2blade said:
These will be going on the FireBlade next....EVERYTHING I've read says they are superb tires,
I didn't read into the hype at all as just suspected it would be another ST tyre like some that I have used before ... but the PR3 is leagues ahead of anything else out there at the moment. Absolutely immense!

They will be getting replaced in the next week or two but are still perfectly legal... around 1mm left before the 1mm limiters.

Mr OCD

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y2blade said:
I've not been reading the hype.
I've been reading END-USER reviews.
Cool... where? - I have not seen many of them yet as it is still a relatively new tyre to the market.

Mr OCD

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moanthebairns said:
This ^

They are ok in the dry but amazing in the wet. I couldnt ride with anything else now.

My set have done 6 k and there is plenty of life left in them. (im only 10.1/2 stone mind you)

People ive met at various pit stops called me a liar when I say ive done that kind of mileage on them as they think they look new.
I actually took them down to the tyre place to show them... I'm sad enough to run an app on my phone that records my fuel mileage and has the ability to record tyre mileage as well so could verify it.

I'm 14 stone kitted and the bike weighs 174kg.

I've had no real complaints in the dry although obviously they aren't as sticky as a pure sports tyre when cracking on hard but for the road they are fine.


Mr OCD

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moanthebairns said:
is it the mcn app?

Yup, the tyre is far better than me in the dry anyway so its not an issue for me on the road.

and id sooner have a tyre that excels in the wet any day as that is when like most riders I need the most help from a tyre.

They are dear which I think puts alot of riders off but they more than pay for themselves in lifespan.
No it's an app called 'Road Trip'... very useful too...

Totally agree!

Indeed I have been quoted £270 for replacements...

Mr OCD

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y2blade said:
Mr OCD said:
y2blade said:
I've not been reading the hype.
I've been reading END-USER reviews.
Cool... where? - I have not seen many of them yet as it is still a relatively new tyre to the market.
They came to market last Sept iirc, lots of people have ridden on them.
There's this thing called the internet.......


http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sa=X&ei=7jh...

There are even video reviews too:
http://www.google.co.uk/#q=michelin+pilot+road+3+o...


HTH smile
Always the wise ass eh? wink

Plenty of reviews on the web but most of them have been for initial fitment and a couple of thousand miles applied with comments... as the tyre is barely a year old I've yet to see any thorough reviews on mileage from a fully used set.

IIRC there was a suggestion that they would not last as long as PR2's due to the sipes...

Mr OCD

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Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Yazza54 said:
Are they as good as PR2 in the dry?

R1 has powers on but I doubt they will last long.
The same ... which is what everyone was bhing about at release date as they felt they should have improved dry performance as well but I've never found dry performance lacking on any tyre TBH ... but then I've only ridden on bike tyres in the last few years!

How much mileage do you do Ryan?

I'd love to try some Power Pure as heard good things about them... but doubtful if I would see 4k from the rear.

If yours are the non-2CT powers then you will be lucky to see 3k...

Edited by Mr OCD on Wednesday 5th September 12:53

Mr OCD

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smack said:
y2blade said:
These will be going on the FireBlade next....EVERYTHING I've read says they are superb tires,
Remember they are Sports Touring tyres, not sticky sports rubber that get better the more abused and hotter they get. The PR3 will cope, but be out of it's zone.
Very common opinion from people running 'sticky sports' rubber on the road who have not tried current ST rubber for themselves.

I have a lot of mates back home who ride bikes... they have been riding for a great deal longer than me and dismissed all ST rubber for that same reason. Until one day last year one of the lads got fed up of replacing tyres every 2000 miles and gave the PR3's a try ... he couldn't tell any difference between the 'sticky sports' rubber and the PR3 on his litre sports bike on the road and now won't shut up about how good they are ...

Guess what most of them are using now ... yep ... PR3's ... smile

Mr OCD

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Wouldn't mind those tyres Si please... smile

Mr OCD

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Yazza54 said:
Yeah but what about the tyres
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Si is soooo gonna kick your ass sunshine biggrinwink

Always wanted to try the pures out myself but didn't want to spunk £300 on tyres that will only last me a couple of months.., Perfect opportunity to do so now.

Cheers Si smile

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Sunday 9th September 2012
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Purity14 said:
I just got 17k out of my PR3's on my SV650.
Including an alps/italian trip.
They are 0.5 above the wear markers, about to be replaced with the same again.
Insane!!! Any pics?

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Sunday 9th September 2012
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LoonR1 said:
It'll be interesting to see what Mr OCD thinks of the "lightly" scrubbed set he picked up off me.
Indeed... I'm actually little weary about fitting them as I love the feel of the PR3's on the R1 but I'm going to fit them next weekend (ran out of time yesterday) and give them a good run... If I'm not keen will put them on Wife's bike and get me a new set of PR3.

Out of curiosity what pressures did you run? Apparently common complaint of lack of feel from front is due to low pressure. The LLT means they need higher pressures than usual...

Lightly scrubbed? I dread to think what heavily scrubbed is... wink

Mr OCD

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Sunday 9th September 2012
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LoonR1 said:
Standard 36 front and 42 rear on the road.

Something like 24 front and rear cold on track.
Road pressures are fine but track seems a bit low? I use 29-30 on track myself...

I've got another fking puncture! frown

Mr OCD

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Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Evidence... smile






Mr OCD

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Wednesday 12th September 2012
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moanthebairns said:
your rear tyre has a bad wart on it, Id get it down to the gum clinic pronto.biggrin
biggrin ... Puncture repair..,

Mr OCD

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Wednesday 12th September 2012
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That looks like it has been run at low pressure... What tyre pressure have you been running?

smack said:
My rear last year at less miles than OCD's wink



Dead from a piece of metal that resulted in 2 exit wounds on the inside, otherwise it was close to the TWI's.

Mr OCD

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Thursday 13th September 2012
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smack said:
All the nicks started in the last 1k miles on it's life, when it was near it's end. But the current on I have on at the moment started to get small nicks last weekend after long runs on French motorway.
Yep that is what is happening to mine ... already fixed one puncture ... now got another (very very slow) but noticing lost's of nicks appearing in the tyre ... it seems to be shredding a bit as well.

They are coming off Saturday.

Mr OCD

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Thursday 13th September 2012
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'Lightly scrubbed'


Mr OCD

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LoonR1 said:
What? They are lightly scrubbed whistle
rofl

Mr OCD

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Monday 17th September 2012
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Herman Toothrot said:
Worth it though if they last twice as long, which from every ones experience they should. I must admit I'm rather surprised people have got as high as some have.
What pressures do you run them at?