Moto gp Silverstone -- spoilers--

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Here we go then our home round.

Gp- Will a pissed off Marquez walk over the rest of the field, will pedrobot continue his winning streak (not certain if 1 race can be classed as a winning streak) or will lorenzo have flash backs from last year and beat Marquez?

Moto2- Hopefully kalio gives rabat a good fight, fingers crossed lowes gets on the podium.

Moto3- How the fk do you guess the winner in this class, will fennati return to form, will masbou grab another win, will bastianini get on the podium again.

Campers loaded, spot of lunch then i'm off to silverstone.

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What a great 5 days i've had at silverstone.

In the pits thursday and redding was a total gent we watched him come out the garage and get mobbed, he didn't moan he signed had photos taken until he worked his way thru the whole crowd, total gent.

Crutchlow was pretty good with the fans, however his constant moaning is getting boring now, just shut the fk up and see out your final races, at one point they were interviewing him dovi and iannone , crutchlow's saying how bad the bike is despite the fact the other riders have spanked him in qualifying.

Bradley Smith, is quite hyper no make that very hyper must be a nightmare to travel with.

Biggest supprise of the weekend was the moto2 race was actually good, i wanted kalio to win to close the points up but fair play to rabat he raced his ass of to get that win.

Next year who knows where we'll end up but i hope it's silverstone, the track not be the best to spectate from but get in beckettts,copse,club and you get to see the bikes for a few corners , plus they have ine infrastructure they have the camping,toilets already in place.

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Rawwr said:

egor110 said:

Bradley Smith, is quite hyper no make that very hyper must be a nightmare to travel with.

Two questions:

1) Did you see him on stage at the Day of Champions auction and;

2) how much did you want to punch him in his little ginger head?

Yes at day of champions , no I wouldn't go as far as wanting to punch him.

I thought he'd be quite a quiet chap like dovi, kiyo but he was the complete opposite.

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Fleegle said:

Yazza54 said:

One thing about crutchlow - surely there's no chance he's got all the new bits that dovi and iannone are benefiting from now he's confirmed he's jumping ship? It's pretty clear who Ducatis golden boys are, just because Dovi keeps out qualifying cal doesn't mean the Cals bike isn't st.

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We all know how Cal and Dovi used to battle it out on track when they were both at Tech 3 on very similar bikes, so it doesn't take rocket science to understand what has gone on at Ducati.

I was actually surprised that Dovi didn't start dropping off towards the latter part of the race like normal. They've obviously found something that has improved it

The track was cold so the softs lasted longer?

Am I the only one who thinks cal should just shut up slagging off ducati for the remaining few races and enjoy the pay check?

If he's not getting new parts he's only got himself to blame as he won't use the softs.

Roll on next year a new ducati , all italian line up and cal on a honda making excuses when redding beats him

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Keeping on the ducati theme, chaz davies was around Thursday , wonder if he's after the pramac ride?

Also josh brookes , can't see him getting a gp ride though, age and the fact he's still chucking the bike away like a teenager.

I did photograph #46 unfortunately it wasn't bridewell

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Lincsblokey said:

Johno said:

Ducati have publicly said Cal isn't getting the parts. Dovi AND Iannone are.

Dovi didn't have brake issues because he had the brakes that Cal didn't.

Cal was clever in having the opt out clause, now he has to prove he can get results with a better bike as there's little doubt it is a better bike.

Redding will only ride a full fat RCV when someone finds 3.5m to pay for it. As much as Lincsblokey tells us Marc van der Strassen is minted, he won't personally pay the fee, it's not how he goes racing, so someone else has got too.... who is the big question.

MR VDS wont pay out of his own pocket, what he will do is stump up the money until new sponsorship deals come into force at seasons end, Bortholomey was quite open in saying they are already 90% there and honda have given the MVDS team, and only them, until the next round to place the order as it is HRC's preferred option.

As for Cal, lets not forget he wasnt getting the development parts BEFORE he signed for LCR, so nit a chance he will now, reading between several lines, iannone & dovi had a new swingarm, new forks, brakes and yokes to adjust rake & trail, as well as engine mapping developments, so that could account for the increase in pace.

with regards to his LCR deal, im keeping quietly confident he will shut the doubters up, you dont lose pace overnight, nor do you get a HRC supported ride of your crap, at the end of the day Cal has ALWAYS been vocal since his R6 cup days, and always will be, some dont like it, yet love the fake PR smile of other riders, the same bunch of riders of whom one got caught being very nastily vocal about a fans child he had just been asked to have a picture with at silverstone on friday...

Regarding cals riding style perhaps he just refuses to change his riding style to suit the bike.

One thing that stands out this year is riding style evolution , I was photographing from luffield and everyone knows marquez gets his elbow down but lorenzo does just as much, he's changed his riding style to try and remain competative.

I thought cal was pretty good with the fans in the pits , at one point he signed loads of stuff and was about to ride off and he must of noticed he'd missed a child who'd been waiting so he stopped signed something did a selfie for the kid and then rode off.

Re redding and marc vds its not just the cost of the hondas they need to find its the cost of freight,staff travel they have to budget for as they'd be a new team, this is why aprilla would like gressini to run there factory team as it would save them a huge amount of money.

Haven't aspar chucked there name in the hat for the hondas also? I was amazed how big there hospitality was,dwarfed the honda and yamaha efforts.

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I think most Brit's love a fighter, they don't have to be winning just need to be fighting and trying and at the moment cal seem's to be on cruise control.

Not that i blame him , why risk injury when next years going to be THE year your competative , whereas redding constantly gets his bike into places it shouldn't be and smith is constantly pushes until he goes to far and crashes.

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graphene said:

egor110 said:

Regarding cals riding style perhaps he just refuses to change his riding style to suit the bike.

Cal has said in recent interviews that he has struggled to adapt his style, and that he reverts to his normal (M1) style when he is struggling. This means he is not exploiting the speed.

I hope he gets it together before the end of the season because everyone wants to see him going in to 2015 feeling (more) condident, whatever the team situation. However, it is possible that if he has struggled with adapting to the Ducati (and still has so many undiagnosed problems with the bike), then he may struggle with the Honda, too.

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Thing is rossi decided he needed to re learn his riding style post 13 season so over the winter he beavered away to learn to get his elbow down, lorenzo really impressed me how much he gets his elbow down, obviously he's got his head down and worked at changing his riding style.

Not cal though , cal rides cal's way and if it doesn't work the bikes st, lets hope the lcr suits cal's style because the excuses are wearing thin.

Edited by egor110 on Monday 1st September 14:08

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Centurion07 said:

Rawwr said:

All he has to do on the LCR is score more points than Bradl, surely?

Bradl's hardly set the world alight though has he, otherwise he'd still be on that bike, so I don't see that beating Bradl's tally is much of a benchmark.

Like one or two others, I think he's going to have to smash Bradl's tally and/or be very, very close to getting on the podium on something like a regular basis to have any chance of staying on a competitive bike.

At the end of the day there are currently only 6 works bikes out there, 4 if you discount Ducati as there's no way they'll ever have him back, and of the other 4, none of them are being ridden by guys Cal can beat on a regular basis and therefore replace, so next year is likely to be as good as it ever gets for him again in Grand Prix racing.

Cal is also going to have to beat redding on the same bike, at present cal on a factory bike can't beat redding.

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graphene said:

egor110 said:

Cal is also going to have to beat redding on the same bike, at present cal on a factory bike can't beat redding.

Yeah, but just saying "factory" bike doesn't mean much. Besides, he has finished ahead of Redding in numerous races, so your statement is factually inaccurate, too.

Obviously factory bike does mean a lot to Cal, think back to the end of 2013 when only a factory seat would do,none of this satellite machinery with there feeble pay would do for Cal factory was his only wish.

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Johno said:

egor110 said:

Obviously factory bike does mean a lot to Cal, think back to the end of 2013 when only a factory seat would do,none of this satellite machinery with there feeble pay would do for Cal factory was his only wish.

You really do have a downer on the only Brit to have been successful in MGP for years don't you.

As cal said at the time, when was the last time you saw a satellite bike win a race? 2006, Tiger Toni and none since.

Riding a hand me down bike in MGP where the rules keep changing is not like it was at the end of the 500's era when satellite bikes regularly made wins. The development curve is different and the changing rules don't help the situation.

Yes he's going to earn more money, but inn a career than can be ended very quickly I don't begrudge any rider the chance.

Your argument seems to be he should earn less for his family and his future and be happy getting the odd result rather than trying to secure his financial future and see if the only factory seat available to him could lead to more results.

But no, much easier to say he moved for the money only.

If I offered you the chance to do whatever job you do now, same risks, same hours, same description, but for 5 times the salary. What would you say? No

I have no downer as you put it on crutchlow and even if i did i'm sure he couldn't give a fk what a few random people on a forum think.

Now onto your last paragraph , if you offered me more pay for same job then yes i'd take it but what i wouldn't do is slag you off at every opportunity.

If i took your money and after a year left you i'd keep quiet keep my head down and get on with the job, and you know that as a employer that's what you'd expect of me .

I truly believe next year redding is going to be matching crutchlow and then there will be yet more excuses as to why it's not happening for him.

Lastly why won't cal adapt his riding style to suit the ducati? Rossi and Lorenzo have all re learnt there riding styles to try and keep up with marquez yet cal thinks he knows better.

Edited by egor110 on Tuesday 2nd September 14:08

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Wow a lot to reply to but lets clarify a few things:

You don't have to agree with me , it's fine we can both have opposite views, i'm sure people who's job is racing a motorcycle couldn't give a flying fk what a postie or someone who may of raced in some small race series.

He changed his style on the Yamaha, he changed his style to suit the new tank on it, the new brakes etc etc

Did he not get the new tank try it for a few races then return to the original tank?

What he has said I believe is that he did adopt a different style and it didn't work, add in mech failures, broken promises, injuries, broken relationships etc ... Why bother any more.

Because that's his job, as you said earlier if someone offers you more money for the same job of course you'd go for it, if i took the money and gave up because it got a bit hard i'm sure i'd be shown the door.




I do not hold with this argument that any rider can change their style fundamentally, adapt to the bike, the conditions and the tyres yes, but fundamental change doesn't happen, or at least very very rarely.

They have to change, Marquez has come along and pushed everything forwards, if the established riders don't change then they'll be left behind as the moto2/3 riders turn up.

As you so aptly describe Rossi and Lorenzo have, what have they changed? Lorenzo struggles with being on the edge of the tyre longer than others, but he hasn't changed that, it's an issue he has to manage with tyre choice and set up. What is Rossi doing so differently than before? Please enlighten me.

You look at Lorenzo now and his style is totally different to previous years, he now gets his elbow down the same as marquez something he's been beavering away at as the season has progressed.

Now you can disagree with me it's fine, however i'm basing my opinion on still photos i've taken of them both at various corners around silverstone over the past gp's and now lorenzo is taking the same lines as marquez not the more knee down upright style he was taking the same corners in 2012,2013.

Now get on and start the bsb thread.