Helmet cam ******

[Prizam]

Well, after around 6 months of having cctv bolted to my head i have now had something happen that morally bothers me.

Idiots on mobile phones is very common, but today had one coming at me on the wrong side of the road, round a blind corner. I managed to stop, a foot away from the curb and she still almost hit me.

Car packed full of Ikea st, both driver and passenger just looking down at there phones.


It is on head cam, good video quality but you cannot make out the diver on her phone (You can the passenger).

I am minded to send it in to plod. For two reasons.

1. i am fed up of people prioritizing face book over driving
2. if this is in anyway representative of her normal driving then she really does need a good telling off.


Do i report it and become one of "them", if so... how ?

[Prizam]

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[Prizam]

Ok, ready for the non event wible cam warrior comments.


The issue is not what happened, but what was a foot away from happening because she was being an idiot and face txting instead of driving.

Video is muted because of my choice language
Video is a shot clip because nothing else happened. I rode away after.

https://youtu.be/AdfqUobs6-w

[Prizam]

Prof Prolapse said:

Whilst you've not done anything illegal, to me it looks like you were riding too fast and barely compensated for her illegal and completely retarded driving.

No offence.

I came to a complete stop a couple feet from the curb and waited for her to run me over whilst debating in my mind if I should bail from the bike all together.

Please tell me what else i should have done?

[Prizam]

The video quality i have is better. For some reason youtube killed it.

you can just about make out both driver and passenger. And there phones.

[Prizam]

To be honest, if she apologised, crapped her self or even made an attempt not to run me down, i would feel better about it.

On closer inspection of the full quality video, she has a passenger in the car, covered in boxes holding a phone up to her. They are both groping at it.

[Prizam]

spookly said:

My reaction would have probably involved a glove/boot and a wing mirror.

Typically, as soon as the danger had passed, I wished I had done exactly this.

[Prizam]

Prof Prolapse said:

But you slowed down very little if at all for a bend. You could have given yourself more time if you were riding slower.

I'm not disputing who is legally at fault, I'm just offering genuine criticism. Besides, isn't it a GS? Surely the sensible option, would have been to mount the kerb and carry on?

I do like that corner, nice smooth tarmac.

Kerb did cross my mind, needs a slightly greater angle of attack to get up it without falling off though


Point taken though, i guess going a bit slower, in hindsight, would have allowed a little more space. But i really wasent going that fast.

Edited by Prizam on Thursday 6th October 12:03

[Prizam]

Bailey93 said:

Jazoli said:

Now I have seen the footage, report her, then put the camera in a drawer, or if you must on your bike, putting it on your helmet is stupid, do you really want it punching through your helmet if you fall off?

If you wear cheap crap on your head maybe? but surely it would just snap off, although ill contradict myself by saying I mount on my bike to reduce helmet drag [as the actress said to the bishop]

Agreed, i don't subscribe to the idea that it will cause any issues. At the least, it is at jaw level. The camera (Stealth drift 2) is quite small and not like one of those go-pro bricks, i have never noticed any drag and you forget it is there when riding.

The camera is attacked by a small clip on mount that in turn is simply stuck to the helmet with some padded sticky tape. Should it take an impact that does not break it off, then the base of the pad is as large as the camera so spreads the load over the same area anyway.

[Prizam]

Helmet designer said:

Giro’s Eric Richter said: “We studied this issue thoroughly, including significant testing at our in-house DOME test lab with both Go-Pro and Contour units. Our mounts cause no significant additional loads for the neck nor brain rotation due to well designed breakaway features.”

Michael Grim of Specialized said: “We believe that a good GoPro mount should “break away” in an impact. We think this is the main thing. There is still risk that the camera could still cause injury, but not worse than rocks, eyewear, etc. There is always risk of injury in an accident, regardless. So, it’s always best to keep the rubber side down.

“From our experience, so far, most of the adhesive mounts do break away fine. It seems a bigger problem that cameras get knocked off and lost. So, tethering the camera may also be wise, while still providing the breakaway feature. We think it’s a bad idea to have a camera “hard mounted or bolted” to the helmet, as this may increase risk by adding leverage to rotation in an impact.”

[Prizam]

freddytin said:

Please ,please ,please post the footage with complete audio for extra rant factor ....I'm sure you're saintly compared to some on here ...MTB

Mr PP is having a laugh about your speed . One thing I am curious about ..Did you give her a toot on the horn ?

I usually give it a miss as I don't want to have them shocked and swerve in the wrong direction as they awake from their slumber

No tooting, didn't have time and hands were busy enough.

I think i simply exclaimed "WTF", most of it would be wind noise anyway. lol

[Prizam]

RemyMartin said:

Fit a discrete camera on the bike with a constant rewrite loop. If you need footage for an accident it's there. 99% forget and you won't care and you won't a) look like a cock with a camera on b) won't exacerbate any head injury should the worst happen c) become a self righteous prick.

ETA. In my opinion your riding looked ok, report the micra.

Thanks RE the riding.

I did trial mounting it on the bike first. But it picks up all the vibrations from the bike. It is also never looking where you want it too so really does not see anything. It also makes your cornering look like you are on a race track, so to the untrained, makes you seem like a loon.

[Prizam]

Update - Finally found some time to call it in. Details taken and passed to "Traffic Officers Team". Scary thing is, they know who i was from my mobile number. Yikes.

[Prizam]

Pothole said:

Prizam said:

Update - Finally found some time to call it in. Details taken and passed to "Traffic Officers Team". Scary thing is, they know who i was from my mobile number. Yikes.

You've called them before.

I really don't think i have. I did once pop in to a police station to report a stolen bicycle though. I guess they are not completely clueless after all.

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Willy Nilly said:

Had the car hit you, there would be no arguing about who was to blame by your positioning in he road, so what use would the camera have been?

Had you no had the camera, you would have just muttered about it for a few minutes and forgotten about t. Instead you wasted a load of time down loading it, posting it on here and reading this ste.

Take the camera off your helmet and get on with your life.

A couple of years ago, i would have been with you on this.

However, in the last 2 years i have had some one cut in to me on the motorway. We collided, by the grace of massive motorbike i managed to stay on. Thankfully he fessed up, but could have quite easily been a 50/50 on insurance.


I have had a school run mum numpty come belting round a parked car on a tight road right at me. I missed her with an emergency stop, but my footing let me down and i dropped the bike. She drove off... until she saw that other people had stopped and were talking too me. Fearing that they would be a "witness" to her, she came belting back, stopped diagonally across the road and started giving it the verbal. About how i "Road raged" her, and how she had kids on the car... Poor single mummy etc... And then even phoned the police. Thread is some ware here.


After that incident i sucked up the repairs to my bike (Cylinder head scratched) and got me a head camera.

I hate it hate it hate it!

But you know what, in the "Almost incident" last week, the most likely scenario had she hit me, would be to drive off. Leaving me with a broken bike at the side of the road, and maby more broken with me. Even if i had witnesses, they would be unlikely to have her plate.

With the camera, insurance and the coppers could nail her to the wall. As it stands, i just hope the coppers give her a good telling off. Driving like that is far too common and really needs stopping before she does some real damage.

[Prizam]

Well, to close this one off....

I reported to 101, details taken. Will pass it on.

Several days later, nothing. Phoned them up again, this time they asked me to email them video evidence. The email address they gave did not work.

Trawled the crap out of there site (Which kept crashing giving an IIS 2003 error, clearly running in a cupboard some whare), no other email addresses.

I did find an on line form to fill out... that was last week, nothing.


So, in conclusion. The coppers couldn't catch a cold. In fact, its worse than that. When everything is handed to them on a plate they ant even be arsed to sniff at it.