XJR (X300 flavour)

XJR (X300 flavour)

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theironduke

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Monday 8th October 2012
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So I got a pleasent surprise on the insurance front (was previously looking at 4.0 Sports) and am thinking "in for a penny"....

What do I need to know?

I've heard fuel is horrendous but I've just sold my TVR so am used to silly MPG, plus it will only be a weekend car!

theironduke

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Monday 8th October 2012
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Jaguar steve said:
Rust will be the main concern. Check all over the body especially the rear wheel arches,round the front and rear screens,and bottoms of the doors and wings.
A hard driven xjr will have shagged its brakes, tyres and suspension components but the engine and driveline should be good for 100k with reasonable maintainence.
Parts prices are not unreasonable. Insurance is usually cheaper than Ze Chermans too.

Essential to buy the very best example you can find. Have a look on carsandclassics, and the Jaguar World magazine classifieds. Joining the JEC might be a good move too
Thanks matey. Been looking at x300's for a while, but until today thought an "R" would be a no go! so familiar ish with the foibles of them in general. Guess it's just a case of looking even harder than usual, bearing in mind they are likely to have been driven harder!

Are the brakes unique to the XJR or the same as the 4.0 cars? also same question re. shocks and general suspension bits. Also is the gearbox the 4 speed unit or the 5 speed switchable as per 4.0 cars?

theironduke

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Monday 8th October 2012
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a8hex said:
The suspension on the XJR's is much harder. They don't give the magic carpet ride you expect of a Jaguar.
If you look on Jag Lovers you'll find copies of the brochures. Not sure whether the gearbox is the same as the 4L but it isn't the Mercedes unit that the SC V8 4.0's got.
try http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/xjr95.html
"...with moderate use of the accelerator the supercharged units fuel economy and behaviour can be virtually indistinguishable from that of the conventionally aspirated 4.0 AJ16."

Porkies from Browns lane or just very optimistic??!!

theironduke

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Tuesday 9th October 2012
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a8hex said:
Then you hit seventy with WOT and you understand the bit from Star Treck.
What does WOT mean...?

theironduke

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Tuesday 9th October 2012
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SpeckledJim said:
Wide Open Throttle
ahhhhhh

My best guess was maybe World Of Torque!


theironduke

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Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Wallet Opening Tragedy

theironduke

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Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Just spotted an LPG converted car in the PH classifieds..

Would LPG be a good thing? I know it will save a few pennies but will it put people off? non originality etc?


theironduke

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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theironduke

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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SpeckledJim said:
theironduke said:
Been for sale for quite a while. Lovely spec.
Pretty much my ideal spec... The LPG puts me off though frown

theironduke

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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judas said:
theironduke said:
SpeckledJim said:
theironduke said:
Been for sale for quite a while. Lovely spec.
Pretty much my ideal spec... The LPG puts me off though frown
It was sold a while back. Why the seller doesn't take the ad down is a mystery to me.
Thats that one off the list then!

currently asking for more info about this one...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-JAGUAR-XJR6-SUPERCH...

and this one....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJR-Straight-Six-...

theironduke

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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SpeckledJim said:
theironduke said:
Thats that one off the list then!

currently asking for more info about this one...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-JAGUAR-XJR6-SUPERCH...

and this one....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJR-Straight-Six-...
Big fan of both. Narrowly prefer the red one, but really like both.
Not much in it is there! 10k in miles, both lots of history....

Blue one has a few mods, good or bad? and no tax

Red one has a shorter MOT and a bit of drive away tax BUT less toys (relaly want the Harmon Kardon stereo)

Oh and both are miles away frown blue one is manchester and red is leicester. I'm in worcester frown

Price wise the guy selling the blue one, trade vs private for red, says he will sell it for 2k without tax.... Planning on seeing the red one before the auction ends.

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Only up the road in B'ham... not sure I could live with the colour though!

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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SpeckledJim said:
theironduke said:
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Only up the road in B'ham... not sure I could live with the colour though!
I promised myself an XJR in 1994 or 5 after I came away from the NEC with a poster of one in that colour. Couldn't do it now - gotta be red, blue, silver or black for me.
Yep, know what you mean. I like the "Ice Blue" (I had a Celebration XJS in the colour) and the red as per the red car above. Antigua blue is also nice but as far as colours go those are about the only three! Obviously black just looks the absolute dogs wotsits!

theironduke

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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judas said:
theironduke said:
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Only up the road in B'ham... not sure I could live with the colour though!
Don't bother - it's a complete heap. Went to see it last weekend and my first comment as we pulled up next to it was "Er, should we just go straight home?"

One tyre was flat, rusty wheel arches and generally very sorry looking in the cold light of day.
Thanks for that! The colour was making me think twice anyway and looking at their stock my spidey sense was tingling!

Have to wonder with some "dealers" dont you frown

Its this kind of thing that puts me off driving long distances to see cars. For example the blue one above is 2.5 hours away while the red one is 1.5. The latter isn't too bad but the first, thats a day essentially! frown

theironduke

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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judas said:
theironduke said:
Not much in it is there! 10k in miles, both lots of history....

Blue one has a few mods, good or bad? and no tax

Red one has a shorter MOT and a bit of drive away tax BUT less toys (relaly want the Harmon Kardon stereo)

Oh and both are miles away frown blue one is manchester and red is leicester. I'm in worcester frown

Price wise the guy selling the blue one, trade vs private for red, says he will sell it for 2k without tax.... Planning on seeing the red one before the auction ends.
The red one is nice, but not perfect. Manifold is blowing, there's some bubbling at the bottom of both arches where they meet the sills. Paintwork is a bit tired but could be brought back to life without an awful lot of work. It's nice, honest car though.

I'm still umm-ing and ah-ing over whether to bid or not.
Have you seen the red one then...?

I was planning to go up but if you have.....could you share intel. PH'er/PH'er smile

theironduke

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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judas said:
theironduke said:
Thanks for that! The colour was making me think twice anyway and looking at their stock my spidey sense was tingling!

Have to wonder with some "dealers" dont you frown

Its this kind of thing that puts me off driving long distances to see cars. For example the blue one above is 2.5 hours away while the red one is 1.5. The latter isn't too bad but the first, thats a day essentially! frown
Your spidey senses were spot on hehe

Their 'lot' is a piece of fenced-off wasteland covered in hardcore and sorry looking cars at the end of their lives frown
Jesus.... Oh and i've PM'd you smile

theironduke

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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judas said:
theironduke said:
Have you seen the red one then...?

I was planning to go up but if you have.....could you share intel. PH'er/PH'er smile
See, therein lies a problem. I quite fancy it myself, but I'm going to see a few more before the auction ends and if none of them pan out I was going to throw an bid on and cross my fingers. While giving intel to a fellow PH'er is absolutely the right thing to do, giving intel to an ebay competitor is quite another!

wink

There's not much more to tell really. It's a nice honest car that needs a bit of work. It's nice and clean underneath (at least compared to the other sheds I saw), wheels and tyres all good. I didn't get to drive it but got a 15 minute ride around the local B roads and there were no worrying noises.

The owner was adamant that they would not be accepting offers to end the auction early.

However, if I bid and you win it I will be most put out... grumpy
Thanks smile I'll be honest I think it'll be going above my budget....I told myself 2k so I guess it already has!

theironduke

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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judas said:
theironduke said:
Jesus.... Oh and i've PM'd you smile
Replied smile
Got to love PH, thanks matey smile

Oh and fill your boots with V8's! I'm limited to 6 bangers only wink

theironduke

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Thursday 11th October 2012
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Nice fleet!

This will be my third cat! I had a rough 2.9 manual XJ40 at about 22 which I didn't keep long and then a few years later a STUNNING 4.0 Celebration XJS, the only car I regret selling frown

For me the X300 has to be either Sport trim or and XJR, call me vain but I like the black exterior trimming, dark wood and the sports seats. I'm 27 and not quite ready for the wood and chrome of a Sov'!

And since I found a favourable insurance quote the idea of a supercharger is really appealing! I'd still be very tempted by a 4.0 Sport though but no nice ones about frown

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Friday 12th October 2012
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George7 said:
Just a quick question, as I don't want to create a whole topic for it, but I've seen a manual XJR for sale. This is the ultimate spec for me, and considering I'm 21, is somehow insurable for not too much. The catch is, it has 220k miles. Is buying an XJR with this many miles a terrible, terrible idea? It's just that you don't often hear of the standard ones going past 200k very often, let alone the supercharged one!
I think i've seen the same car, highest mileage X300 i've ever spotted! Out of interest who is your best insurance quote from? I'm young ish too (27) and would just be interested to know smile