2.0 TFSI burning oil - new engine?
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Evening all!
A friend recently spoke to me about a problem with 2009 Q5 2.0 TFSI with an S-Tronic gearbox and about 85,000 miles on the clock.
The car has been owned by only him and his Dad before, doing mainly city and motorway miles. Sampling his driving his style is smooth, gentle and not exactly speedy!
The car has the occasional slightly over due service and not all of it is Audi main dealer and the car is out of warranty.
Now his problem.
For about the last year, he's excessive oil consumption. Taken to his main dealer this time, they initially replaced a sensor, but to no avail.
Since then, they have replaced a couple of other engine items, the last costing my friend about £350, but again no resolution. The exact items so far replaced escape my mind at present.
They performed what was described to him as a 'consumption test', and he should have run the for about 650 miles.
The car managed only 240 miles before requiring a top up of oil.
The dealership have now informed him the car's bottom end bearings (big end) are on their way out, and they would have to replace the engine.
This has been priced at a whopping £9,500! He has an Audi UK contribution of £2000 on the table.
Now, a little bit of Googling showed up a batch of 2.0 TFSI engines from 2009 had problematic piston rings/pistons, which caused excessive oil consumption.
I told my friend he could try to bargain for a higher contribution from Audi with perhaps and additional good will from the local dealer, but I did suggest that may not be possible as the car hasn't always been serviced by an Audi Main Dealer.
I did also suggest he do some homework into local Audi specialists for a rebuild of his existing engine as it may be potentially cheaper.
What I am please after from the learned folks in PH's Audi corner is clarification or correction of my "bad batch" findings and wether or not my friend could get any thing more as a contribution from Audi - could be a known issue, and therefore a case of pride for Audi to offer more.
Is a replacement truly the only option, or are there specialists who could undertake some guaranteed work?
Any recommendations? My friend is in the Guildford and Wandsworth areas.
Many thanks in advance,
Darren
A friend recently spoke to me about a problem with 2009 Q5 2.0 TFSI with an S-Tronic gearbox and about 85,000 miles on the clock.
The car has been owned by only him and his Dad before, doing mainly city and motorway miles. Sampling his driving his style is smooth, gentle and not exactly speedy!
The car has the occasional slightly over due service and not all of it is Audi main dealer and the car is out of warranty.
Now his problem.
For about the last year, he's excessive oil consumption. Taken to his main dealer this time, they initially replaced a sensor, but to no avail.
Since then, they have replaced a couple of other engine items, the last costing my friend about £350, but again no resolution. The exact items so far replaced escape my mind at present.
They performed what was described to him as a 'consumption test', and he should have run the for about 650 miles.
The car managed only 240 miles before requiring a top up of oil.
The dealership have now informed him the car's bottom end bearings (big end) are on their way out, and they would have to replace the engine.
This has been priced at a whopping £9,500! He has an Audi UK contribution of £2000 on the table.
Now, a little bit of Googling showed up a batch of 2.0 TFSI engines from 2009 had problematic piston rings/pistons, which caused excessive oil consumption.
I told my friend he could try to bargain for a higher contribution from Audi with perhaps and additional good will from the local dealer, but I did suggest that may not be possible as the car hasn't always been serviced by an Audi Main Dealer.
I did also suggest he do some homework into local Audi specialists for a rebuild of his existing engine as it may be potentially cheaper.
What I am please after from the learned folks in PH's Audi corner is clarification or correction of my "bad batch" findings and wether or not my friend could get any thing more as a contribution from Audi - could be a known issue, and therefore a case of pride for Audi to offer more.
Is a replacement truly the only option, or are there specialists who could undertake some guaranteed work?
Any recommendations? My friend is in the Guildford and Wandsworth areas.
Many thanks in advance,
Darren
Edited by iluvmercs on Wednesday 2nd July 02:11
Thank you all for the replies thus far. Very much appreciated 
He is thinking about changing the car and Audi have offered about a third below what they would offer if the car was fine.
If he was to part ex it at another manufacturer's main dealer, I would assume their own checks will show the engine as being problematic as it's Audi's system.
I would further assume all kinds of legal implications if a car was part ex'ed but the owner didn't declare a known issue.
To answer some of the queries....
Audi told him the bottom end requires work, for which they have told him they would replace the engine.
My own Googling led me to discover a bad batch in 2009 where bad piston/piston rings caused his symptoms of excessive oil consumption.
As far as I know the car has used Audi recommended oils.
I think a compression was done as part of the tests.
Not ideal situation and I suspect he will be taking a bath on either part ex or rebuild/replacement.
Darren
He is thinking about changing the car and Audi have offered about a third below what they would offer if the car was fine.
If he was to part ex it at another manufacturer's main dealer, I would assume their own checks will show the engine as being problematic as it's Audi's system.
I would further assume all kinds of legal implications if a car was part ex'ed but the owner didn't declare a known issue.
To answer some of the queries....
Audi told him the bottom end requires work, for which they have told him they would replace the engine.
My own Googling led me to discover a bad batch in 2009 where bad piston/piston rings caused his symptoms of excessive oil consumption.
As far as I know the car has used Audi recommended oils.
I think a compression was done as part of the tests.
Not ideal situation and I suspect he will be taking a bath on either part ex or rebuild/replacement.
Darren
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