New Discovery Sport - Who's ordered?

New Discovery Sport - Who's ordered?

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smudger911

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Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I hear / read more details and official launch may be tomorrow?

Has anyone brought a build slot or have more details on specs etc?

smudger911

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Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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hilly10 said:
I do not think the order book is open yet
Not officially. However my local LR dealer were quite happy to take a refundable deposit.

They seem to think they will have a demo Sport in December.

Launch pics look good, JLR can do little wrong imb atm


smudger911

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Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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hilly10 said:
I agree I thioght I was looking at a updated Evoque.
+1.

Seems there is lots of confusion over whether the 'Sport' is a new Evoque or new Discovery....

smudger911

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Thursday 4th September 2014
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Triple7 said:
It's a great looking SUV, but a bit underwhelming. Looks like what the Freelander refresh should have been 2 years ago.

So what chassis is this using? The Evoques, plus new rear?

I had a deposit on one, but too in love with my Macan to go back to LR for this.
Triple, and therein lies the fun. We've run a RRS and 3x new FL2's over the last 8 years. Good experiences from all however we will be looking at the Macan, Cayenne and possibly a new RRS and of course the Disco Sport.
On that note, LR will have static displays of the DS around the UK during Sept and Oct.
My deposit holding dealer seems fairly confident they will have the demo vehicle in December to drive.

smudger911

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Friday 12th September 2014
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Phil. said:
Some dealers will have DS for a day before Jan 15 and are organisng viewing events. Invitation only. Mine has such an event in late Sept.
My dealer where I have a confirmed order for HSE spec have also advised the same. The dealer principle seems fairly sure they will have their first demo DS in December so looking forward to driving then.

Re. existing engines and the new JLR units. Certainly agree the existing 2.2 is somewhat 'unrefined'. That said it works very well and having run 3x for over 180,000 miles they are fairly trouble free. FWIW, I'm more comfortable taking a new DS with the old engine - I'll let someone else test the new engine before ordering a second and replacement HSE DS with the new motor 6 months after launch.

smudger911

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Friday 12th September 2014
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yellowbentines said:
Good call actually smile
Seems some dealers are now off loading their FL2 demo units with up to a £10k discount. Based on some having only 1k miles that would tell me the market for used FL2's into next year as the DS starts delivery will be fairly soft....!

smudger911

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Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Phil. said:
Here's another one in the flesh. Looks a bit better than the one above IMHO.

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic20787.html
Good find! The only item I'm not liking so far is the analogue dials (rpm and speedo) on the dash - may be the production models will have the lcd type as per the full fat Disco and RRS?

smudger911

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Thursday 27th November 2014
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jamiesonmurray said:
Triple7 said:
As for delaying order, I wouldn't dealer would have to submit build into the system when the think the car will turn up for you requested delivery dates. In the end if there is a surge in demand, you could have to wait a long time. If I were you I would ask them to keep your car unregistered until you need it. They would want to be paid, so would depend on your relationship...
I have just had an email today from my dealer stating the order system is now live and can i send him my colour and spec choices,
trouble is, i wanted to see one in the flesh first, they'll have one to look at in a week or two, but i'm stuck out at sea, and the internet connection here on the ship is so bad, there is no way the configurator will load up,

" I used to be indecisive,, but now i'm not so sure"
Once ordered there is always some leeway to changing your spec or cancelling.
Mine is spec'd and a confirmed order tho I haven't driven or seen one in the flesh. That said we are booked for an extended test drive 19th Dec so any fine tuning to the order will take place post the drive.

smudger911

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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Phil. said:
Like the new video of the DS. Same colour as my order but I also have the Black Pack with black wheels and other bits:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/heq142be7yg
Yep, that's pretty good and gives a good overview of the whole package and looks very much like a smaller RR Sport.

Looking forward to driving one in the next couple of weeks.

On that note, has anyone driven the Macan S Diesel?

smudger911

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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Triple7 said:
Yes, I own one, but I'm pretty confident the DS cannot be compared to the Macan. We are looking to replace our FL2 with the DS and expecting it to be a much more refined product to the one we drive now. On the other hand, the Macan is a proper SUV which is actual Sporting, but on the DS it is merely a name and in JLR speak is used to term a more basic/functional model, over say a RR or the soon to be Discovery replacement.

Test drive in DS in Jan '15.
Triple, that's good feedback and I would agree the outgoing FL2 (imo having had 3) was / is crying out for some refinement. Engine, road noise and handling being the main areas.

Our order is for a DS HSE, the equiv Macan S is approximately another 8 ~ 9k so probably time for a drive of the Macan to see the difference - and see if the dogs fit in the back smile

smudger911

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Monday 22nd December 2014
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My wife and I managed alittle under 100 miles in a DS HSE on Saturday courtesy of JLR & our local LR dealer. The distance was a mixture of A & B roads – no off roading or anything close to getting it muddy!

The DS had the 9 speed auto which works well with the existing SD4 engine and surprisingly JLR have managed to remove the annoying half second lag from the FL2 which is present if you intend to pull away quickly.
Engine noise is reduced in the cabin with smooth changes up and down. There is still a certain amount of road noise as with the FL2. Ride over rutted and pot holed B roads is very good – air suspension doing its job very well. Back to the interior – usual gadgets and switch gear that you would expect on an HSE model. The extra 2x seats in the boot area are tiny and imb for those emergency trips but useful all the same.
The overall feel of the DS seems less solid than the existing FL2, and there were several squeaks and rattles coming from the boot area. We were told by the JLR rep these vehicles are 98% Production models and those small issues will be ironed out pre customer deliveries and I have no doubt these will be rectified.
While the DS is ok and a reasonable drive we both came away feeling underwhelmed. In the flesh the DS looks very similar to Kia or Nissan’s soft roaders and has (for us anyway) lost it’s appeal. We don’t doubt they will sell by the boat load, yet after the drive neither of us felt we must must complete our order and take delivery asap… If you are not a badge snob then a Nissan or other manufacturer would do the same job and you could save between £15k ~ £20k in the process – just donning my flame suit after that last sentence 

smudger911

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Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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Phil. said:
Out of interest, since you're comparing with your from FL, have you driven the Evqoue similarly to the DS and if so how does it compare?
Yes had an Evoque for 3 days as a loaner. Feels more solid than the DS did although similar visibility due to the reduced amount of glass in the DS vs the FL2

smudger911

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Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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unrepentant said:
smudger911 said:
Ride over rutted and pot holed B roads is very good – air suspension doing its job very well.
Disco Sport doesn't have air suspension.
I am misinformed by the LR rep then - he waffled on for 5 mins on how the air suspension works. Having checked the specs you are correct! Apologies.

smudger911

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Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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HarryW said:
smudger911 said:
My wife and I managed alittle under 100 miles in a DS HSE on Saturday courtesy of JLR & our local LR dealer. The distance was a mixture of A & B roads – no off roading or anything close to getting it muddy!

The DS had the 9 speed auto which works well with the existing SD4 engine and surprisingly JLR have managed to remove the annoying half second lag from the FL2 which is present if you intend to pull away quickly.
Engine noise is reduced in the cabin with smooth changes up and down. There is still a certain amount of road noise as with the FL2. Ride over rutted and pot holed B roads is very good – air suspension doing its job very well. Back to the interior – usual gadgets and switch gear that you would expect on an HSE model. The extra 2x seats in the boot area are tiny and imb for those emergency trips but useful all the same.
The overall feel of the DS seems less solid than the existing FL2, and there were several squeaks and rattles coming from the boot area. We were told by the JLR rep these vehicles are 98% Production models and those small issues will be ironed out pre customer deliveries and I have no doubt these will be rectified.
While the DS is ok and a reasonable drive we both came away feeling underwhelmed. In the flesh the DS looks very similar to Kia or Nissan’s soft roaders and has (for us anyway) lost it’s appeal. We don’t doubt they will sell by the boat load, yet after the drive neither of us felt we must must complete our order and take delivery asap… If you are not a badge snob then a Nissan or other manufacturer would do the same job and you could save between £15k ~ £20k in the process – just donning my flame suit after that last sentence ?
Thanks for the unbiased real world feedback, not driven one myself but sat in one and kicked its tyres. Sad really as I really wanted it to be a step improvement over the FL2 and from what you are saying it isn't and certainly not that of a £40k car. I said at the time it makes the 5 door Evoque look good value....
Quite surprised it's less solid than the FL2. I will still try one when they arrive, ever hopeful, but I suspect I will come to the same conclusion. What are the options in the medium SUV market?
I'm now waiting on the Merc GLC which is out next summer, I expect the quality of that and Mercedes willingness to deal may sway me. I Actually quite like the Outlander, it's very good value compared to the DS, just that is now being replaced end of next year. Q5? Wouldn't give Audi a penny of my money personally. X3? maybe, but 12 month wait for them now.
Kia? Sorento, the ZdS actually looks like it a lot IMHO! There's a lot to commend it, but it's not for me. Evoque? Too small inside with low roof line, shame they didn't put a Evoque-esk quality interior in the DS....
Harry, all I can say is go and drive one and make your own mind up. It's good, but not £40k+ good imho although I am sure it will bring new blood into the brand.