buying a Range Rover L405 - bloody dealers

buying a Range Rover L405 - bloody dealers

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grand cherokee

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Monday 10th November 2014
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I'm now wanting to buy a L405 about a year old so talking about £70K plus - no finance needed so effectively cash

spoken to a few dealers and the sales staff are dreadful - they know fk all about the cars they have in stock

simple question like does it have rear view camera system - answer, don't know MATE i'll have a look????

Tata best address this problem of lazy sales staff

grand cherokee

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Tuesday 11th November 2014
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many thanks for your suggestions - I will ring these dealers and see what stock they have - the problem is I do not want black and the vast majority of cars are black - also want a light (ivory) interior

my current L322 is Tonga Green with Ivory interior and the light colour makes it 'feel' more spacious - I've been in a new L405 with all black interior and it was like being in a cave

I've no problem buying 'over the phone' if they can provide photographs/service record/build sheet etc

I assume sales staff get paid commission so their lack of interest is staggering

what sort of discount would you expect for a 4.4 V8 priced at say £77,500 - no trade in and 'cash'?

grand cherokee

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Tuesday 11th November 2014
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bit of an update

found a possible car at the dealership who service my L322 - 2013 4.4 SDV8 in Baltic Blue with 14K miles for £72.500

sadly, all black interior but it has extras that I want like electric deployable tow bar - so got to weigh up pros and cons

grand cherokee

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Thursday 13th November 2014
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Aeroresh said:
There are plenty out there if you want used, just search autotrader.

In terms of discount on a used car it depends how much its been offered for surely. Best deals can be had going in a couple of days before the quarter or year end in my experience!

Regarding dealers I dont think Id ever rely on a dealer to know what theyre talking about.....that goes for any brand not just JLR....dont they all have back up cameras though?

One thing that may be worth considering, dealers get commission on selling finance. Ive not done it for a while but last time I bought a Mercedes on finance to take advantage of a dealer contribution scheme.

I settled it within the 14 day cooling off period and everyone was a winner!
well, used Autotrader and rung about a few cars

sadly they know bugger all about the cars and tell me to read the LR web site?

fk me £70K plus to spend and I get this st??

makes me wonder why spend this sort of money on a car that the dealers do not care about? -- maybe they are too complacent selling cars to failed bankers?

because for the life of me I cannot understand their attitude


Edited by grand cherokee on Thursday 13th November 13:50

grand cherokee

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Friday 14th November 2014
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come on guys please play nicely

I think its pretty widely accepted that most Range Rover sales people in the UK are not really very knowledgeable about the cars and rely on the cars to 'sell themselves'?

I know people in other fields who work in sales and they are really under pressure/stress to sell in very competitive markets - Range Rovers are in a class of their own and have no real competitors hence the attitude found in many dealerships

a director at one dealership admitted it annoyed him that his sales team did not have to 'work' to earn their commission etc - customers just come to them wanting to spend money!

grand cherokee

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Friday 14th November 2014
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during my searches I'm amazed that front fog lights are an extra on all models apart from the Autobiography?

they were standard on the L322

in my 2013 brochure they are £140 extra - but can they be retro fitted - ie does the bumper have the necessary 'cut outs'?

seems crazy that on an £80K plus car you have to pay for front fog lights?

grand cherokee

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Friday 14th November 2014
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Mastiff

thanks for the camera info - much appreciated

managed at last to get a 2013 catalogue which has some of the old colours I like inc Baltic Blue and Aintree Green

dealerships run out of catalogues within days as chancers collect them to sell on Ebay!

grand cherokee

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Friday 14th November 2014
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found a possible car - any feedback on the Marshall Group please?

grand cherokee

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Friday 14th November 2014
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car in question is Nara Bronze with Almond interior

not a combination I'd considered but looks very nice

big plus point is panoramic roof and deployable side steps (with a bad hip these are a godsend)

never asked for a discount but mats/load liners etc offered

grand cherokee

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Saturday 15th November 2014
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Aeroresh said:
Mines nara, love the colour and its ivory inside which provides a nice contrast (although a bugger to keep clean!)

If you think £140 for fog lights is bad its £30 for an extra large washer bottle!
bloody hell - £30 for a larger washer bottle is taking the pish - why not simply supply a large bottle?

my current car is Ivory and despite shooting/fishing 5/6 days per week I keep clean simply by putting anything dirty in the boot liner - lol!

now if you have kids I can see a problem

I've put a deposit on the car and will view next week but I get good 'vibes'

grand cherokee

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Saturday 15th November 2014
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well I thought 'old fashioned customer service' had gone

imagine my surprise when Martin from Marshall's Cambridge offered to bring the car to me next Friday - that's service (few hundred miles round trip)

well done to Martin and Marshall's Cambridge



Edited by grand cherokee on Saturday 15th November 11:08

grand cherokee

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Friday 21st November 2014
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quick update

have viewed and driven the car today

bought subject to sorting out a few extra's being supplied

excellent service from Martin at Marshall's - happy to allow a full and proper test drive and allow paintwork inspection by my 'detailer'

compared with my L322 - its in a new league, which it should be given its a new car VS a nine year old car

the engine is refined and fast

but its more the ride and handling that impressed me most - I'm not exactly a slow driver but bends I took at say 30mph in the L322 I could take at 45mph in the L405 with no body roll

lots of nice 'toys' but particularly like the power tailgate

sadly no preheat which for me was superb - going out at 5am in the winter I simply pressed the remote and twenty minutes later I got a fully de-iced and warm car

not a deal breaker as where I live I can safely start the car and allow it to warm up at home