Iiyama screens still good?

[Mr Whippy]

I used to have the older Pro CRT's in the late 90's and early 00's and was always impressed, especially their aperture grill models in 19 and 21 sizes.

But then they seemed to go cheap, and I've never really read the greatest reviews on their products.

They have a great looking new 30" display

XB3070WQS

That looks like it could be a great buy, and it's a decent 16:10 screen so nice for photo editing etc with that extra height.

It's also a bargain price at around £500.


But would you?


It's just out, but I'm in the market for a new bigger higher res screen... hmmmm.


Any thoughts/advice on Iiyama LCD's from recent years would be much appreciated!

Thanks

Dave

[Mr Whippy]

bhstewie said:

Not sure on where Iiyama rank these days but FWIW see if you can try one first. I have bloody good eyes but a guy at work got a 27" Dell Ultrasharp and the resolution is simply too high IMO - it might be a bit better on a 30" but that's a lot of screen to be sat 12" away from.

I've used 30" before, Apple Cinema displays, so I'm happy with the size and pixel density.

Trying one seems the hardest part. Hardly anyone sells these screens these days, never mind this latest 30" display.

The 27" high end versions seem to rate well for the money though, with many Mac owners buying them and saying they're as nice as their 27" Apple displays of twice the price.


Maybe I'll just have to wait a bit for reviews to start appearing... or people start buying and rating them!

Oh for a local shop that sells things, to be able to go look at hardware in these days.

Dave

[Mr Whippy]

I'll agree on that.

Their decent 27" IPS screens are about three times the price of the cheap ones.

I think the 2779QS is about £400.

They used to do the Vision Master Pro which kinda made it clear it was a high end product, and Dell do their UltraSharp which suggests a higher end screen too.

But Iiyama currently have no method for buyers to know they're getting a good monitor... so their top end screens just blend into the cheapy ones I suppose.


As much as I'm not a fan of Apple, I do wish manufacturers would take more note of their clear product naming strategy.

It's really not clear how good any Iiyama product is except looking at the price, which is just dumb.


Tempted to go for one of the 27" screens. Also slightly tempted to get 3x 27" 1080p ones too for a driving simulator type setup.

Dave

[Mr Whippy]

I'm not sure about back-light bleed either.

I see people mention it a lot but in practice I've never really noticed it. Nor ghosting on early LCD in games, nor input lags, or all the other things people can spot under controlled conditions... but seem to melt away in actual use.

I think I've seen back-light bleed on all screens if I force the issue.


I've read people mention back light issues with that Iiyama screen, but then many have mentioned it and said it's no worse than other screens... so I'm not really sure if it is actually worse than you'd imagine or if people just got on a band-wagon with this specific screen.


A shame really that these manufacturers can't get their act together with decent prices/QC, when Korean monitors seem fairly well regarded for a fraction of the price.

Dave

[Mr Whippy]

Seeing the monitor is the impossible part these days though. No longer can you just buy on trust like you say, cost and brand mean nothing any more.
Unless you are willing to stump up for the Cinema Display or equivalent super-top end models.

4K would be a waste for me I think as the pixels would get too small I'd just be zooming back in to make them bigger again hehe. Pixel density seems about right at 1440p on 27", or the 1600px on 30"... for my needs any way.


Think I might go for a Korean 27" screen and an Iiyama... whichever turns out better I'll get another three of then sell my 24" ones.

Dave

[Mr Whippy]

I've not done the sums, but this is just widening a 27" 1440p screen to 34" diagonal isn't it?

So no more vertical height or pixels... that is kinda what I'm after more than anything. Editing 1024px texture sheets is already a pain with 1200px after your task-bar and app bar are added into the mix.


I'd prefer to see more 30" type 1600p screens than these wider ones. Unless everyone has turned to into cats hunting for laterally scurrying creatures, surely some vertical FOV is much needed for gamers too!?

Dave

[Mr Whippy]

Zad said:

I suspect curved screens will go the same way as 3D and "4 colour" ones. If the original image isn't photographed or rendered with a curved image plane, then it won't look as good. I'm sure it will look amaaaaaazing to start with, but I imagine it would be a huge pain for CAD or Photoshop.

This is something I never understood with the bendy screens.

In theory it makes sense, but the projection is flat. As you widen your FOV, and this is quite an extreme example, you're just gonna get really horrible distortions at the corners, while the sides will apparently stretch too.

OK on a 16:9 screen or similar it might not be terribly noticeable or that bad, but when you get to these FOV levels it's going to be pretty bad I think.


And for productivity I can't see any major plus points either. I'd rather have more in a forward square kinda arc, than a wide oblong thin one that needed me to move my head left/right more during my processes.
We see more vertical stacking for pure productivity beyond a certain point, than wider and wider stacking.


Dave