ios 8 - rubbish
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So, until yesterday i had ios 6.
No problems except a couple of apps i wanted needed ios 8.
Being oartially sighted i was wary of the glary low contrast keyboard.
I checked out an iis 7 ioad at the airport and saw it had a great dark grey keyboard with bright thick white lettering.
Great i thought and downloaded ios 8.
Then discovered the dark grey keyboard was only on appstore.
Everywhere else it is the gkary white one.
I see notes now has no color - bkack on white with no lines.
Yahoo mail is black on white.
Apps run slower.
Safari takes a age to lad.
Opera renders slowly.
I switch karge text on for my cack eyesight, only to see text bigger but crunched up in contacts and safari bookmarks.
A real joke.
I wonder if anyone tests this rubbish.
Ios 6 to me was easier to read - less glary.
What is all this transoarant rubbish.
I eant to see what i want to see - not what is behind it.
Why would anyone want kettering in faint grey ?!
As i write this the keys on my keyboard are lighting up as the ti e delay between typing and the key turning grey is huge.
I gave up my iphone for a galaxy note.
Next year ill ditch the ipad and go the same route.
Apple seems all show and no content to me.
Just watched 12 keys light up grey after i finished typing. Ffs.
If the performance is that s
t on ipad 2 why did apple let me download it. T0ssers
No problems except a couple of apps i wanted needed ios 8.
Being oartially sighted i was wary of the glary low contrast keyboard.
I checked out an iis 7 ioad at the airport and saw it had a great dark grey keyboard with bright thick white lettering.
Great i thought and downloaded ios 8.
Then discovered the dark grey keyboard was only on appstore.
Everywhere else it is the gkary white one.
I see notes now has no color - bkack on white with no lines.
Yahoo mail is black on white.
Apps run slower.
Safari takes a age to lad.
Opera renders slowly.
I switch karge text on for my cack eyesight, only to see text bigger but crunched up in contacts and safari bookmarks.
A real joke.
I wonder if anyone tests this rubbish.
Ios 6 to me was easier to read - less glary.
What is all this transoarant rubbish.
I eant to see what i want to see - not what is behind it.
Why would anyone want kettering in faint grey ?!
As i write this the keys on my keyboard are lighting up as the ti e delay between typing and the key turning grey is huge.
I gave up my iphone for a galaxy note.
Next year ill ditch the ipad and go the same route.
Apple seems all show and no content to me.
Just watched 12 keys light up grey after i finished typing. Ffs.
If the performance is that s
t on ipad 2 why did apple let me download it. T0ssersNote to apple - i for one dont want your drab washed out glary colorless world.
I realise they dont i plement the grey keyboard as an option so that third oarty developers can do it instead. And the apple can take a cut through the appstore.
So i have to wait and hope for a decent keyboard.
Money grabbing buggers.
I realise they dont i plement the grey keyboard as an option so that third oarty developers can do it instead. And the apple can take a cut through the appstore.
So i have to wait and hope for a decent keyboard.
Money grabbing buggers.
Don said:
Every time any new OS is released there is bhing and moaning until people know how to use it.
iOS 8 is an incremental improvement over iOS 7. iOS 7 was dramatically different and better than iOS 6.
In two weeks, OP, you will be fine with it as you will have found the options and settings that suit you personally. People hated Windows 8. Now (with 8.1) its really very usable. What's the difference? Twelve months of people getting used to it.
User friendly is what you know...give it time.
With respect, im very good with an ipad.hing and moaning until people know how to use it.iOS 8 is an incremental improvement over iOS 7. iOS 7 was dramatically different and better than iOS 6.
In two weeks, OP, you will be fine with it as you will have found the options and settings that suit you personally. People hated Windows 8. Now (with 8.1) its really very usable. What's the difference? Twelve months of people getting used to it.
User friendly is what you know...give it time.
20 years it experience.
Im also very experienced about accessability features on an ipad.
There are a great number of eye problems out there.
Mine is just one of rhem.
Having an on off button for contrast is not much help.
Does every person need either liw or high? What about inbetween.
Its nice to have the option to increase. Text size,mbut not increasing the size of the space the text gies into makes text unreadable and overlapping on some pkaces.
Black writing on a yellow background vastly improves readability for people with poor sight. So where is it?
Light grey writing? No option to change?
Theyve paid lip service to accessability.
The ios 6 was easier to use. Good contrasting colots on the keyboard,
Now its like looking at a bright light.
But thats just accessability which i can handke.
I am using an ioad 2.
Do not uograde an ipod2 unless you want 10 second response times in safari and other web briwsers.
As i said i was typing in my post here. I finished typing.
And them watched as the keyboard tyoed the last 12 characters id pressed. Thats an impressive deoay."
And the third party keyboards - ive tried them all already.
Light red on bright red etc etc doesnt do anything for me.
Nice big thick bright letters on big keys with well defined surrounds.
Thats what poor sighted people would require in my experience.
If apple were serious about accessability they would have given some options on this.
No third party keyboards address people with poor vision now.
Theres very little extra accessability wise.
They obviously never consulted an expert on this.
Anyways at present unless i can get back to ios 6 or 7 this ioad now performs so badly its just an expensive games console for my daughter.
I did go on to the apple website to compkain.
When sekecting the ios the compkaint was about, the drop down didnt even give ios 8 as an option lol
For voice over and braille i do not use.
For contrast i see no difference.
For inverse colors - it inverses the whole ipad - even photos - why!?
For large text - it no longer fits where it is intended and becomes even harder to read.
No different color schemes.
No keyboard that would help.
LOW AND HIGH CONTRAST DOESNT EVEN AFFECT THE KEYBOARD.
Very little has changed since ios 6.
How difficult to include an option to change the background color or similar?
Its taken apple 4 years to allow third party keyboards.
The ipad is very good but could be suoerb if apple really bothered.
For contrast i see no difference.
For inverse colors - it inverses the whole ipad - even photos - why!?
For large text - it no longer fits where it is intended and becomes even harder to read.
No different color schemes.
No keyboard that would help.
LOW AND HIGH CONTRAST DOESNT EVEN AFFECT THE KEYBOARD.
Very little has changed since ios 6.
How difficult to include an option to change the background color or similar?
Its taken apple 4 years to allow third party keyboards.
The ipad is very good but could be suoerb if apple really bothered.
I will try and go back to previous ios.
But i was on ios 6 before so not sure if i would be going back to ios 6 or 7? Or maybe not possible.
Isafari and other briwsers are the wirst oarts of ios 8.
Other internet access is ok.
But 20 to 30 seconds to load a oage is a bit much.
Must be fixable by apple surely.
But i was on ios 6 before so not sure if i would be going back to ios 6 or 7? Or maybe not possible.
Isafari and other briwsers are the wirst oarts of ios 8.
Other internet access is ok.
But 20 to 30 seconds to load a oage is a bit much.
Must be fixable by apple surely.
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It does it appear from scouring the internet that this is a common problem.
My needs?
I would say baring in mind the variety and wide range of handicaps out there for visual impairements the customisation options are limited, laughable, and have changed very little in 4 years.
The major benefit is tne threee fingered double tap zoom.
Thats brilliant.
A huge difference could be made by a few ootions to customize colors.
Apple hasnt got that many apps that they have written themselves.
So how difficult or time consuming can it be.
CoinSl0t said:
Rubbish for your needs perhaps, seems to work more than adequately for the majority though (I'm a HTC owner so not an Apple fanboy).
For the record I updated my iPad 2 to IOS 8 and all seems well so far after a day or two of use. (I can't see any differences to be honest as I'm not a power user)
Loadin a webpage in over 20 seconds seems a bit excessive.For the record I updated my iPad 2 to IOS 8 and all seems well so far after a day or two of use. (I can't see any differences to be honest as I'm not a power user)
It does it appear from scouring the internet that this is a common problem.
My needs?
I would say baring in mind the variety and wide range of handicaps out there for visual impairements the customisation options are limited, laughable, and have changed very little in 4 years.
The major benefit is tne threee fingered double tap zoom.
Thats brilliant.
A huge difference could be made by a few ootions to customize colors.
Apple hasnt got that many apps that they have written themselves.
So how difficult or time consuming can it be.
V
Thanks for the so helpful comments though
PW said:
If it was so important, and you're so experienced, why did you do no research before updating to a completely new OS that you can't downgrade from?
If you're happy to switch to Android, a couple of apps can't be so critical, but you wanted them instead of a "working" ipad.
iOS is not the problem in this situation, hubris and haste are.
Add this lesson to your 20 years of experience or you'll make exactly the same mistake with the next Android update.
Silly me for expecting ios 8 to work.If you're happy to switch to Android, a couple of apps can't be so critical, but you wanted them instead of a "working" ipad.
iOS is not the problem in this situation, hubris and haste are.
Add this lesson to your 20 years of experience or you'll make exactly the same mistake with the next Android update.
Thanks for the so helpful comments though
ecsrobin said:
I would say that your device needs a reboot or apps closing. Not experiencing these issues on the same device.
There are so many disabilities I think apple have made a really good attempt to be inclusive, your just frustrated that it doesn't meet your needs.
Should apple do more? They won't do you think your in their demographic for selling devices? Will it hurt their profits not at all.
Can you do something about it? Like I said earlier you've stated your in IT and tech savvy so create an app/keyboard that suits your needs and you may end up helping others with a similar issue to yourself.
Is their any purpose on this thread other than to rant - NO
Ignoring everything i have written.There are so many disabilities I think apple have made a really good attempt to be inclusive, your just frustrated that it doesn't meet your needs.
Should apple do more? They won't do you think your in their demographic for selling devices? Will it hurt their profits not at all.
Can you do something about it? Like I said earlier you've stated your in IT and tech savvy so create an app/keyboard that suits your needs and you may end up helping others with a similar issue to yourself.
Is their any purpose on this thread other than to rant - NO
I assume you know little of the dissabilities to which you refer.
Maybe i should write ios 9 whilsy i am at it.
PW said:
It does work.
Silly you for presuming ios 8 would work how you, specifically of all Apple's millions of customers, want it to work.
What - you mean without crashes, freezes, overlapping text, screwed wireless, 20 second screen loads forbbriwsers, etc etc.Silly you for presuming ios 8 would work how you, specifically of all Apple's millions of customers, want it to work.
Many people have these issues apoarantly.
Or am i u reasonable to expect it to work correctly?
Check the forums on the net.
It does not work correctly on ioad 2
Durzel said:
The guy has got a point though.
With your particular requirements it would definitely have been prudent to ask questions about design and aesthetic changes before upgrading. Unless there was a specific app or feature you required arguably there isn't much point upgrading at all - especially given newer OS upgrades are likely to run slower on older hardware as a matter of course.
iOS 8 works - according to most peoples definitions of the word. If you've got an iOS (6) that fits like a glove for you, I honestly don't know why you'd choose to blindly upgrade and risk ruining it all.
Ipoint 1 - ios 8 has many problems that need fixing - bugs and oerformance.With your particular requirements it would definitely have been prudent to ask questions about design and aesthetic changes before upgrading. Unless there was a specific app or feature you required arguably there isn't much point upgrading at all - especially given newer OS upgrades are likely to run slower on older hardware as a matter of course.
iOS 8 works - according to most peoples definitions of the word. If you've got an iOS (6) that fits like a glove for you, I honestly don't know why you'd choose to blindly upgrade and risk ruining it all.
Point 2 its cack for people with poor vision. Fact
Point 3 shouldnt have upgraded
Point 4 last time with appple
Vipers said:
How did you downgrade? I tried the link on a couple of pages ago, but just can't find this on the bit in the instructions
"Open iTunes and choose the iOS device, which can be found to the left of iTunes Store button or at the top right corner"
Just can't find the iOS device anywhere on the screen.
Download tne ios file onto your pc from the internet."Open iTunes and choose the iOS device, which can be found to the left of iTunes Store button or at the top right corner"
Just can't find the iOS device anywhere on the screen.
Connect device to pc and start itunes.
Hold home and reset keys for 10 secs.
Release the reset key only.
This will put you into recovery mode - screen will change on device. Message will appear on itunes to say recovery mode.
Then hold shift key down on keyboard (windows) and left click restore backup at same time.
Choose the ios file you downloaded.
And off it goes.
I rolledback last night.
Make backups just in case.
This is for a clean install.
As i went from ios 6 to 8 then to 7
These are the instructions i used -
http://bgr.com/2014/06/04/how-to-go-back-to-ios-7-...
Edited by philv on Tuesday 23 September 10:24
For ipad 2 - do not uograde.
Freezes crashes
Having to reset several times when restarting
Screens slow or impossible to render
20 plus seconds to load websites
Many apos not working correctly
Most surprising
Ios 7 look and feel looks same as iis 8 to me
Do not upgrade ipad 2
Can check out web for similar opinions
Can diwngrade again - but doubt that avenue will stay open as apple will not authorize old ioss after a period of time
Freezes crashes
Having to reset several times when restarting
Screens slow or impossible to render
20 plus seconds to load websites
Many apos not working correctly
Most surprising
Ios 7 look and feel looks same as iis 8 to me
Do not upgrade ipad 2
Can check out web for similar opinions
Can diwngrade again - but doubt that avenue will stay open as apple will not authorize old ioss after a period of time
talkssense said:
No issues here on 22 ipad2 and 14 original iPad mini which use the same cpu.
Obviously some people are having issues, but it certainly doesn't apply to everyone. Sorry, but I have no idea what makes it work for some and not others.
I do always close all apps and do a hard reset on each device post upgrade but I see people have already suggested that a number of times for you.
It is odd.Obviously some people are having issues, but it certainly doesn't apply to everyone. Sorry, but I have no idea what makes it work for some and not others.
I do always close all apps and do a hard reset on each device post upgrade but I see people have already suggested that a number of times for you.
But there are plenty of people out the including me who find their ipad 2 unusable post ios 8.
Maybe a different cpu?
Apparantly apple change the cpu to a slower but more battery efficient cpu in 2012.
But then my ipad is pre change.
The general consensus out there seems to be dont upgrade ipad 2.
Its a faff downgrading.
I pity the poor grannt sitting at home who upgrades.
Not exactly user friendly getting back to ios 7.
And as i said before the look and feel of ios 8 seems pretty much the same as ios 8.
That was a surprise to me as i upgraded from ios 6 (which it is not possible to go back to).
Im reall y not sure its worth upgrading anyway.
Considering its supposed to be a big update'
talkssense said:
I might have missed this somewhere, but have you definitely done the below? It always fixes these issues when I see them.
To reset, press and hold both the Sleep/Wake and Home buttons for at least 10 seconds, until you see the Apple logo.
It won't delete anything, and takes about 30 seconds
Yes about 30 times yesterday.To reset, press and hold both the Sleep/Wake and Home buttons for at least 10 seconds, until you see the Apple logo.
It won't delete anything, and takes about 30 seconds
It was taking 3 resets to restart after turning off.
Absolute nightmare
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