Can I remove Microsoft .net framework?
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Hi
I have been running the same computer for 8 years and have started to run out of space on the C drive.
So I am looking for things to delete, and so far have deleted 4 accounting programmes I never use these days. That's 2 Gb freed up.
Another sizeable space-taker is about 5 versions of Microsoft .net framework. No idea what they do - they say i haven't used them for several years.
However, I get a dire warning when I start the uninstall process, saying that deleting them may stop other programmes from working.
Can I proceed, or should I stop? I think the latest one I have is Framework 4, but I have 1.1, 2, 3, 3.5, 4 and 4 extended. 3.5 says i haven't used it for 6 years.
If I cannot delete 4, can I delete the earlier versions without affecting 4? I have a vague feeling it relates back to when I used Messenger.
Second question - I have a very old version of Sage accounting on the computer, and when I try to uninstall it, the computer cannot find an old enough version of the uninstall programme to do the job - is there a way around this? It is taking half a gig of space and hasn't been used for over 6 years.
Yes, I know I should just go and buy a new computer, but this 17 inch MacBook Pro has served me well and has loads of personal as well as business stuff on it. And yes, it is backed up.
I have been running the same computer for 8 years and have started to run out of space on the C drive.
So I am looking for things to delete, and so far have deleted 4 accounting programmes I never use these days. That's 2 Gb freed up.
Another sizeable space-taker is about 5 versions of Microsoft .net framework. No idea what they do - they say i haven't used them for several years.
However, I get a dire warning when I start the uninstall process, saying that deleting them may stop other programmes from working.
Can I proceed, or should I stop? I think the latest one I have is Framework 4, but I have 1.1, 2, 3, 3.5, 4 and 4 extended. 3.5 says i haven't used it for 6 years.
If I cannot delete 4, can I delete the earlier versions without affecting 4? I have a vague feeling it relates back to when I used Messenger.
Second question - I have a very old version of Sage accounting on the computer, and when I try to uninstall it, the computer cannot find an old enough version of the uninstall programme to do the job - is there a way around this? It is taking half a gig of space and hasn't been used for over 6 years.
Yes, I know I should just go and buy a new computer, but this 17 inch MacBook Pro has served me well and has loads of personal as well as business stuff on it. And yes, it is backed up.
Thanks Dr Mike. I will just leave well alone and see if i can increase the size of my C drive
I just posted this on the Mac help forum:
Hi, I have a partition re-sizing question. At least, I think I have.
I have a MacBook Pro 5.2, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.66 GHz, about 7-8 years old I think.
Love the computer, run my business on it.
It's hard disk is partitioned into 297GB Mac OS 10.6.8 Z drive, 31 GB Windows XP drive.
I have 140Gb free space on the Mac Z drive, but only about 2 Gb free space on the Windows C drive.
And that 2 Gb has only been won by removing four programmes I rarely use.
Logic says give the Windows drive more space, but is that possible? Logic also says go spend £400 at PC Worm and get a new computer.....but I like this one.
Before you go all "Mac is best, why do you have Windows?" on me, I agree, but I am an accountant and most of my clients are running their accounts in Windows programmes. Also, the tax and accounts prep software I use is only available in Windows versions.
Edited to rephrase:
I don't have a partitioned disk - I have a single Mac disk according to Disk Utility, 320GB in size, with 140 GB unused.
However, if I click on "My Computer" within Windows, I have a C drive of 31.9GB and a Z drive of 297 Gb, the Z drive having about 140Gb of unused space.
So my question should be, how do I take some of the Z drive and give it to the C drive, please?
Also, how come I have more disk space on those two disks than I have on the computer in total? Is the C drive inside the Z drive?
I just posted this on the Mac help forum:
Hi, I have a partition re-sizing question. At least, I think I have.
I have a MacBook Pro 5.2, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.66 GHz, about 7-8 years old I think.
Love the computer, run my business on it.
It's hard disk is partitioned into 297GB Mac OS 10.6.8 Z drive, 31 GB Windows XP drive.
I have 140Gb free space on the Mac Z drive, but only about 2 Gb free space on the Windows C drive.
And that 2 Gb has only been won by removing four programmes I rarely use.
Logic says give the Windows drive more space, but is that possible? Logic also says go spend £400 at PC Worm and get a new computer.....but I like this one.
Before you go all "Mac is best, why do you have Windows?" on me, I agree, but I am an accountant and most of my clients are running their accounts in Windows programmes. Also, the tax and accounts prep software I use is only available in Windows versions.
Edited to rephrase:
I don't have a partitioned disk - I have a single Mac disk according to Disk Utility, 320GB in size, with 140 GB unused.
However, if I click on "My Computer" within Windows, I have a C drive of 31.9GB and a Z drive of 297 Gb, the Z drive having about 140Gb of unused space.
So my question should be, how do I take some of the Z drive and give it to the C drive, please?
Also, how come I have more disk space on those two disks than I have on the computer in total? Is the C drive inside the Z drive?
Food for thought, thanks guys.
I have a TimeMachine backup that I use regularly, backing up onto a My Passport drive for Mac, and back in the mists of time I set it to back up everything, including my entire C drive......but a check of what it is actually backing up is a good plan for today. The backups should be 180GB, I guess...... (320 disk - 140 free space). I will have a shuftie at the backup drive.
I probably should get a second drive and do a different kind of backup, at least of the business part and my photos. PC World is 2.9 miles away, and almost on my way to Asda and the park, my other targets for this morning.
Finally, I do have an ex-client who are a Mac support company of some considerable standing. You never know, they might still be speaking to me.....! Re-sizing the C drive to say 80GB will address the C drive disk space issue and, with a defrag as well, will probably improve running speed and stability.
But I guess I do have to face the fact that my computer is 8 years old and is running old versions of the operating systems, MS Office and Parallels emulation software.
Odd thing is that my TVR is similarly vieux chapeau, yet is the most reliable car I own. My Audi is for ever having electrical faults and giving me weird fault messages (9 things that were working yesterday now not working, etc), my Saab is in pieces having the engine rebuilt (head gasket, valve guides, pistoff rings, timing chain all stuffed), and my wife's old Merc 4x4 is nearly as reliable as ever, but lost sight of it's crankshaft last Christmas, and first thing this morning it started up with a noise reminiscent of the Boy Scouts drumming with 500 kg of spare spanners. The only working car I had last Christmas Day was.......the TVR Chimaera. Thank God, because it was a glorious morning for a roof-off blast around the country lanes while Erin Dawes (she to whom I am related by marriage) did unmentionable things to some unsuspecting piece of poultry and then rammed it into the Rangemaster (which I hasten to add is NOT a 4.6 litre, mechanically unreliable, 4x4).
I have a TimeMachine backup that I use regularly, backing up onto a My Passport drive for Mac, and back in the mists of time I set it to back up everything, including my entire C drive......but a check of what it is actually backing up is a good plan for today. The backups should be 180GB, I guess...... (320 disk - 140 free space). I will have a shuftie at the backup drive.
I probably should get a second drive and do a different kind of backup, at least of the business part and my photos. PC World is 2.9 miles away, and almost on my way to Asda and the park, my other targets for this morning.
Finally, I do have an ex-client who are a Mac support company of some considerable standing. You never know, they might still be speaking to me.....! Re-sizing the C drive to say 80GB will address the C drive disk space issue and, with a defrag as well, will probably improve running speed and stability.
But I guess I do have to face the fact that my computer is 8 years old and is running old versions of the operating systems, MS Office and Parallels emulation software.
Odd thing is that my TVR is similarly vieux chapeau, yet is the most reliable car I own. My Audi is for ever having electrical faults and giving me weird fault messages (9 things that were working yesterday now not working, etc), my Saab is in pieces having the engine rebuilt (head gasket, valve guides, pistoff rings, timing chain all stuffed), and my wife's old Merc 4x4 is nearly as reliable as ever, but lost sight of it's crankshaft last Christmas, and first thing this morning it started up with a noise reminiscent of the Boy Scouts drumming with 500 kg of spare spanners. The only working car I had last Christmas Day was.......the TVR Chimaera. Thank God, because it was a glorious morning for a roof-off blast around the country lanes while Erin Dawes (she to whom I am related by marriage) did unmentionable things to some unsuspecting piece of poultry and then rammed it into the Rangemaster (which I hasten to add is NOT a 4.6 litre, mechanically unreliable, 4x4).
Thanks again guys for such detailed and considered support. Sorry, but what is an encrypted operating system? I have my laptop password protected, but that's all.
Ok, so I toddled the 2.9 miles to Curried PC World and Archie, who i believe hails from Warsaw, was a great help and answered all my questions, looked up details, and from their stock recommended a Lenovo laptop.
His rationale is that I use more than one memory hungry application at once (Excel grabs memory, and my tax software has the same habit), which I have already noticed was slowing my Apple down, and I want my computer to be a pleasure to use as I am on it for a number of hours every day.
The spec on the Lenovo is a good solid case, extended keyboard, 1900 x 1080 screen, 12 Gb Ram, i7 processor running a 2.5 GHz clock speed. It also has all the connectivity I presently need. Price £600. I have to say that my eyesight is no longer 20/20, so i appreciate a high res screen like I presently have. At home I use the 1900x 1200 Apple screen on my laptop, plus an 28 inch full HD monitor. I use just the laptop when out and about.
I can clearly get a pretty good laptop for £400 - is this Lenovo a computer and a make you would recommend, or overkill/rubbish and therefore a Le[b]no-no[\b]
It's this one, but in silver, not white
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/lap...
Ok, so I toddled the 2.9 miles to Curried PC World and Archie, who i believe hails from Warsaw, was a great help and answered all my questions, looked up details, and from their stock recommended a Lenovo laptop.
His rationale is that I use more than one memory hungry application at once (Excel grabs memory, and my tax software has the same habit), which I have already noticed was slowing my Apple down, and I want my computer to be a pleasure to use as I am on it for a number of hours every day.
The spec on the Lenovo is a good solid case, extended keyboard, 1900 x 1080 screen, 12 Gb Ram, i7 processor running a 2.5 GHz clock speed. It also has all the connectivity I presently need. Price £600. I have to say that my eyesight is no longer 20/20, so i appreciate a high res screen like I presently have. At home I use the 1900x 1200 Apple screen on my laptop, plus an 28 inch full HD monitor. I use just the laptop when out and about.
I can clearly get a pretty good laptop for £400 - is this Lenovo a computer and a make you would recommend, or overkill/rubbish and therefore a Le[b]no-no[\b]
It's this one, but in silver, not white
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/lap...
BraveSirRobin said:
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hstewie's advice above seems pretty sound to me.
TBH a 16GB i7 Windows laptop sounds like overkill for what you need. How much memory does your current setup have?
4GB RAM, 2.66Ghz clock speed core 2 duo processor, 320 GB HDD.hstewie's advice above seems pretty sound to me. TBH a 16GB i7 Windows laptop sounds like overkill for what you need. How much memory does your current setup have?
What I do will run on anything, I agree. I don't need terabytes of disk space, now or later. I have 140GB spare space on my present laptop.
The question is one of what do I need vs what would be nice to use day in, day out. I use the computer for a lot of the day, every working day.
The three things I would like are a really good, sharp, high resolution screen, for the days when I have to work on the laptop screen with my less then perfect eye-sight when out at clients (presently working at my home office on a 28 inch monitor attached to the laptop), reliability, and a computer that handles several RAM-hungry programmes open at once, and does so quickly, both now and in the future. I would rather spend a bit more now and get those things, plus a robust construction, than spend the minimum and regret it later. My nicely built Apple computer, carved out of a solid block of aluminium, fell off the desk onto a hard floor one evening. I heard the crash. I picked it up, examined the dent on the back left corner, feared the worst, but when I opened the lid it simply worked.
In my mind, quite possibly incorrectly, I liken it to choosing a car for the 30,000 miles a year I do travelling for work. I won't spend a lot on a car, and spend my driving life mainly on the A1/A14/M11 in quite heavy traffic. I don't spend more than £3,000 buying the car, but when choosing even at that level, I am happier in a decent sized, well specified, middle to large executive barge, travelling in comfort and peace and with some protection from crashes around me. I [i]could[\i] do the journeys in a clean and tidy Ford Fiesta, but I would have less protection against crashes and would be less relaxed when I arrived 90-135 miles later.
So what I am looking for is a fast, quality processor, decent clock speed, plenty of RAM, robust case and that all important good quality screen. Those things all in one package tend to equate to spending £600, not £300. I don't see the need to spend £1000, I agree.
But I would welcome more thoughts please.
I do tend to look after my laptops and make them last longer. They have always been Apples so far, which are really well built. The only others are one Dell in about 1999 (nightmare) and one Sony Vaio, replacing the Dell. Both were bought to run Windows only tax and accounting software, and were used alongside my Apple. As soon as Apple went Intel and got the Windows compatibility software right, I stopped using Windows laptops and went entirely Apple. Before that, a report that took 30 seconds to run in Sage for Windows took upwards of 8 hours to run on Sage for Windows, loaded on the Mac!
The main reason for resistance to change has been the complexity of updating software, never mind changing computer. Hence partly the wish now to ditch Apple (I only use its Apple software for Email, Safari and photos). I can easily manage those functions on Windows. By ditching the Apple I reduce the need to, and risk of, updating two lots of operating system plus Parallels to the need to update Windows. Starting with W 10, that shouldn't need to happen for a week or two. I also have to move to the new computer the remote access links I use to several of my clients' computers, and reload and transfer my proprietary accounts preparation and tax software, with the client files associated with each. I know it's not major, probably no more than a day's work, plus dealing with the fallout over the next month or so.
Thanks for everyone's advice on encryption and backups. I will take appropriate action, including cloud backups and encrypting the hard disk. By chance I had a chat with a guy at a building client about computers yesterday. He has managed to encrypt his Apple hard drive after suffering a cyber-attack. I reckon if he can manage it, then so can I.
The main reason for resistance to change has been the complexity of updating software, never mind changing computer. Hence partly the wish now to ditch Apple (I only use its Apple software for Email, Safari and photos). I can easily manage those functions on Windows. By ditching the Apple I reduce the need to, and risk of, updating two lots of operating system plus Parallels to the need to update Windows. Starting with W 10, that shouldn't need to happen for a week or two. I also have to move to the new computer the remote access links I use to several of my clients' computers, and reload and transfer my proprietary accounts preparation and tax software, with the client files associated with each. I know it's not major, probably no more than a day's work, plus dealing with the fallout over the next month or so.
Thanks for everyone's advice on encryption and backups. I will take appropriate action, including cloud backups and encrypting the hard disk. By chance I had a chat with a guy at a building client about computers yesterday. He has managed to encrypt his Apple hard drive after suffering a cyber-attack. I reckon if he can manage it, then so can I.
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