New vs. older Macbook Pro

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21TonyK

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Monday 27th March 2017
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Been out of IT for years so not kept up to date or even remotely following stuff over recent years so please be gentle...

Daughter is at Uni doing Architecture. Has been using her little Asus netbook which was lightly upgraded with SSD so i5, 4GB and 256SSD. Its okay for office docs but for CAD and Adobe stuff shes struggling.

Basically she wants/needs a MacBook pro but I'm not about to fork out £3K+ for a laptop when I know I can get a better/equivalent machine that isn't Apple for a third of the money.

However... she wants a mac.

So, looking around I can get a 15.4", i7 with 16GB and an SSD for £2K on the apple refurb site. That's the new model with the touchbar etc.

A lot of the kids on her course have said don't get the new one, even those who have them. I can see the same but older version on Amazon for about £1700.

Is the new one problematic? Worth an extra £300?

TA

21TonyK

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thebraketester said:
Also... she will be able to get educational discount on new ones too. ~10% off i think
Any idea if that applies to the apple refurb store?



21TonyK

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miniman said:
CoolHands said:
£1349 MacBook Pro 13" with Retina Display

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/la...
That's the one I have. A few colleagues have the ones with the touchbar thing. I didn't have a Tamagotchi either but my life isn't ruined.
i5 with 8GB? Is that enough to run Adobe Indesign? I have no clue?

Her current machine is i5 with 4gb and ssd and its painful watching her doing 3d models etc?

21TonyK

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Tuesday 28th March 2017
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ZesPak said:
ecs said:
Which applications is she using? You mention 3D rendering is slow, that would suggest you need something with a certified graphics card (most CAD software will tell you which GPU you should be using, it's generally not a gaming/general purpose one).
This.

Most normal specced laptops will struggle with higher end 3D rendering (especially if it's real time, as that's GPU heavy).

Looking at a desktop config, an i3 4GB RAM with a 200GBP GPU will run circles around an i7 16GB with integrated graphics when it comes to real time 3D rendering.
I'll try to find out when shes home over Easter. At the moment its all sketchup and photoshop and pretty basic stuff but this is year one of potentially 6 years she'll be studying(!!) so need to get it reasonably right to start with.


21TonyK

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Wednesday 29th March 2017
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ZesPak said:
dmsims said:
Who is paying?

(JFDI)
She WANTS a Mac.

He's right, ha can't win this one. Either he needs to buy a good spec MacBook which will set him back the better part of 2k, or he saves over 1k and will have a disgruntled teenager.

I know this topic isn't about educating your kids, but if it were my daughter, I'd give her a very good offer (xps for example), look at the budget (1.5k),and have her fork out the difference of she really wants something else.
And that the reality... stroppy teenager who wants a Mac vs. an ex-techie parent... never gonna win!

So... this is the sw she has sent me...

AutoCAD
Rhino
Photoshop
InDesign
Sketchup

She'll back back home in 72 hours so I can talk 1-2-1 about it. She needs/(I want) a machine that will last until her Masters if not right the way through. No use for a hand-me-down to her little bro in 2 years. He's set on law or medicine and struggles with anything not shaped like a rugby ball!!

21TonyK

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Thursday 30th March 2017
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Stupid question but can you upgrade the RAM from 16 to 32 on a new (2016) MacBook pro?

Found this... but I can see the advantage of slinging another 16gb in it at a later date.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-MacBook-15-inch-Lap...

And it looks like an agreement has been reached. She can have whatever she wants (within reason) if she pays half.